I will repeat what I have previously posted. For purposes of this discussion, when I am speaking about a Christian, I am referring to a person who believes in Jesus Christ. When I am speaking about a Jew, I am referring to an adherent of Judaism.So what? You are saying that people like Moshe Rosen of Jews for Jesus; notable Messianic leaders like Dan Juster, Asher Intrater, Dr. Mitch Glazer, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Joel and David Chernoff, etc. are all NOT actually Jews?
I am not arguing Jews cease being Jews when they convert to Christianity. That is a straw man. However, when Jews do convert to Christianity, they normally cease practicing Judaism and instead embrace and practice Christianity (i.e. they believe in Jesus Christ).
As a reminder, the Judaiziers were condemned at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.