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I almost got committed. Please pray.

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OK. I posted a few days ago about how a mental hospital I was "treated" at 7 years ago called the police and said I'd been making death threats. What really happened? I read over my records (you can get them when you apply for disability), and they didn't match up with what actually happened. I mean, this wasn't oversight or anything; this was lying to make the doctor and the hospital look like they were trying to help me. So, like an idiot (I admit that now), I called the hospital and said that dr.x had an "honestly problem," because his records didn't match what actually happened. They were actually just trying to drug me up. I remember the combo of pills I was discharged on. I did an online med-checker on it. No wonder they changed the records (or never recorded them accurately in the first place...) ! Potential for serotonin syndrome, agitation, psychosis, mania.

Now, that was Thursday of last week. The cops called my dad and simply said to get me more intensive mental health care. OK. I kind of feel as if I've had all the mental health treatment I can stand, but OK. I agreed to more frequent med checks with my shrink and bi-weekly appointments with a counselor. Good enough. We're done, right?

Nooooo. On Friday, I got a call around 9:00 AM from a woman at the mental health clinic I go to for med checks and occasional talk therapy. She said I had to come in at 10. I did. I was taken into a room with this woman--some sort of higher-up at the clinic--and my counselor. We talked; they were obviously watching me and listening closely for signs of "crazy."

Guess what? The doctor who treated me 7 years ago at that mental hospital was trying to have me "detained." In this state, if you are "detained"--if you're found to be in need of mental health treatment right now--they put you in a psychiatric ward and pump you full of drugs. The detention order lasts for 72 hours. After that, you can (and I probably would have) been put into a mental hospital until your "condition" is under control.

I had to talk to a shrink at the mental health clinic. My doctor was out. This guy was professional and didn't seem like he really wanted to deal with this. He gave me free samples of my Abilify (I had been ordering it from India), set me up with free Abilify straight from the company, and sent me on my way. Oh, and he gave me a very low-dose of a sedating antihistamine to help me sleep better+calm down some at night. Its as-needed (PRN), so its not even a daily/nightly thing. Just an option for when I need to chill out, I guess. And its just an antihistamine. Kind of like taking Benadryl, but fewer side effects.

So, I avoided being jailed on false charges and I avoided being committed by this angry ex-shrink. This doctor claimed that he feared for his own personal safety. I was told that he said he was afraid I might hurt him. Right.

God gave me an incredible sense of calm about the whole thing, which is one reason I didn't end up committed. I'm pretty sure that if I'd freaked out, the whole thing would have ended differently. As it was, I was even able to say "nice to meet you" to the higher-up counseling woman when she left to take care of some other stuff. I meant it, too. God allowed me to really progress to this point.

I'm just...angry? Disillusioned? What an abuse of power! God was and is with me, I know, and there's a lesson for me here, I know. But what about other "uppity" (ex)patients?

You know what's kind of funny? Dr.x, the doc from 7 years ago, didn't think I was bipolar. He said it was ADD and minor depression. Basically, I was sad and stupid--too stupid and vacuous, apparently, to have real problems. Not that the relativley minor nature of my problems prevented him from prescribing a dangerous, expensive, 4-drug combo. No. Why would it? And why, on earth, would he record his combo, when he could just say I was discharged on 1 mediction? Honesty? In psychiatry? Pshaw! What was I thinking?
 
Am very saddened to hear of the path you've had to walk of recent, Christ_empowered...however, I'm rejoicing that God carried you through what could only have been a concerning time. Reading your comments brought to mind "Footprints," something that has helped me at times when I needed reminding that I'm not alone.

God's gift of serenity/peace/calm is amazing, isn't it!

Glad you're home & not shut up behind locked doors :wave
 
Hi christ_empowered, i'm glad that you have relaxed and show to them you're already healed, yes God is with you. Pray and forgive this people. God is on the process of making everything of you new now. You have our prayers. God bless.
 
I can't imagine what it's like to feel that your fate is being so heavily influenced by another person. When psychiatrists flex their power and abuse it, their patients seem to be under their thumbs. What a helpless feeling that must be. :sad

It seems not many higher-ups in a hospital would have the confidence or ambition to trump a physician's word over that of a patient with a condition. That said, it seems God put the right person in front of you this time who would care enough to do the right thing. I pray He continues to put them there for you. :pray
 
John chapter 14 and Psalm 46 are really good passages to read, when you are in trying circumstances.
 
Well, folks, now we can understand why I rant on this board about medical stuff including Rx stuff they try to force EVERYONE on. If it's not your mental state, then they want to drug you for your cholesterol, your blood pressure, your blood sugar and so forth with other such worthless meds.

All in the name of health but in fact to let some higher ups get their 7, 8 or 9 digit salaries and bonuses per year from the drug sales they make. OK, rant over.

Now, on the personal level, I'd do the Christian thing. First thing is admit this "docotor" is not one, but an evil person with some sort of power and/or money trip.

I'd hire a lawyer and sue him for all that he has. Such quacks have to be taken out of practice to save your fellowman and do the world some good. Then after you win, I'd smile and tell the rest of the staff "Thank you. Have a good day." :D
 
I don't know what a lawyer could do. Its hard enough to prove psychiatric malpractice. I mean, they can say "oh, of course you needed (ECT, loads of drugs)! You're crazy!" and then that's that, you know? I can't imagine how hard it would be to sue someone for allegedly abusing their authority to commit/attempt to commit when they can easily alter records and get their cronies/colleagues to say whatever they need to say to make the legal action go away.

I did contact the CCHR. Citizen's Commission on Human Rights. They're funded by the Scientologists, but they're not in and of themselve a scientology organization, at least not officially. Here's the problem: they're basically an anti-psychiatry propaganda machine. I mean, they helped me once, it was great, but I had a feeling--probably from God--that this time, I'm going to need to tap other resources.

I didn't get committed. I remind myself of that time and time again. I did not end up "detained," drugged up, and later committed. I did not get arrested on false charges. I *do* have to do intense counseling (looks like 2x weekly, at least for now) and frequent "med checks" to, you know, make sure my "issues" are under control.

The good news is that my current psychiatrist is competent. My counselor is competent. God has chosen to show His love by saving me. I could have (should have?) just stayed quiet. I didn't. The truth--some of it at least--came out.
 
Praying for you. I was a witness to a lot of what you explained when I watched what my husband went through the 3 years we were together. He was on a different drug every week it seemed and was in the mental ward 3 times. his Pdocs would allow him to change his drugs whenever he wanted, despite what it may do to his health. After he died I found about 30 bottles of leftover prescriptions in the garage. I believe he was failed by the medical community; if he got the help he needed, he probably wouldn't have turned to alcohol and street drugs, but I'll never know.

Anyway, hang in there. The Lord will continue to help you through this.
 
CE:

If what you said earlier was true, you have a doctor falsifying information, making false statements, trying to get you detained which yes is a violation of human rights, etc etc which are serious offenses. Frankly, if you sued the guy that would be too good for him. What he is doing sounds illegal and I would even say LE should be involved. They may need to launch an investigation possibly because he is doing this to others. (I was not even aware one could be committed without the proper committee and legalese involved first).

Are you from the USA or not? Your profile does not say. But in the USA what you describe is a serious offense but even somewhat in other nations as well. Yes, you can pat yourself on the back for being a good Christian and not breaking down, but you should go one step further and help others if this "character" is really as you say he is. Trust me, if he's trying to do it to you, he's doing it to others.
 
Christ_empowered said:
OK. I posted a few days ago about how a mental hospital I was "treated" at 7 years ago called the police and said I'd been making death threats. What really happened? I read over my records (you can get them when you apply for disability), and they didn't match up with what actually happened. I mean, this wasn't oversight or anything; this was lying to make the doctor and the hospital look like they were trying to help me. So, like an idiot (I admit that now), I called the hospital and said that dr.x had an "honestly problem," because his records didn't match what actually happened. They were actually just trying to drug me up. I remember the combo of pills I was discharged on. I did an online med-checker on it. No wonder they changed the records (or never recorded them accurately in the first place...) ! Potential for serotonin syndrome, agitation, psychosis, mania.

Now, that was Thursday of last week. The cops called my dad and simply said to get me more intensive mental health care. OK. I kind of feel as if I've had all the mental health treatment I can stand, but OK. I agreed to more frequent med checks with my shrink and bi-weekly appointments with a counselor. Good enough. We're done, right?

Nooooo. On Friday, I got a call around 9:00 AM from a woman at the mental health clinic I go to for med checks and occasional talk therapy. She said I had to come in at 10. I did. I was taken into a room with this woman--some sort of higher-up at the clinic--and my counselor. We talked; they were obviously watching me and listening closely for signs of "crazy."

Guess what? The doctor who treated me 7 years ago at that mental hospital was trying to have me "detained." In this state, if you are "detained"--if you're found to be in need of mental health treatment right now--they put you in a psychiatric ward and pump you full of drugs. The detention order lasts for 72 hours. After that, you can (and I probably would have) been put into a mental hospital until your "condition" is under control.

I had to talk to a shrink at the mental health clinic. My doctor was out. This guy was professional and didn't seem like he really wanted to deal with this. He gave me free samples of my Abilify (I had been ordering it from India), set me up with free Abilify straight from the company, and sent me on my way. Oh, and he gave me a very low-dose of a sedating antihistamine to help me sleep better+calm down some at night. Its as-needed (PRN), so its not even a daily/nightly thing. Just an option for when I need to chill out, I guess. And its just an antihistamine. Kind of like taking Benadryl, but fewer side effects.

So, I avoided being jailed on false charges and I avoided being committed by this angry ex-shrink. This doctor claimed that he feared for his own personal safety. I was told that he said he was afraid I might hurt him. Right.

God gave me an incredible sense of calm about the whole thing, which is one reason I didn't end up committed. I'm pretty sure that if I'd freaked out, the whole thing would have ended differently. As it was, I was even able to say "nice to meet you" to the higher-up counseling woman when she left to take care of some other stuff. I meant it, too. God allowed me to really progress to this point.

I'm just...angry? Disillusioned? What an abuse of power! God was and is with me, I know, and there's a lesson for me here, I know. But what about other "uppity" (ex)patients?

You know what's kind of funny? Dr.x, the doc from 7 years ago, didn't think I was bipolar. He said it was ADD and minor depression. Basically, I was sad and stupid--too stupid and vacuous, apparently, to have real problems. Not that the relativley minor nature of my problems prevented him from prescribing a dangerous, expensive, 4-drug combo. No. Why would it? And why, on earth, would he record his combo, when he could just say I was discharged on 1 mediction? Honesty? In psychiatry? Pshaw! What was I thinking?
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Well done for being calm, the last thing you want to do is give them an excuse to lock you up, these doctors are little hitlers, many subscribe to the Jung/Freud schools of thought, which are utterly twisted.

You seem to have got a good doc this time, most likely God's grace in action, he evidently didnt want you committed, perhaps he was brethren and God moved him to take this case?

Who knows, but I would take this as a cut off point. Start working on your health, if there is an issue with your mental health, get to work on dealing with it..google Mike Adams the health ranger, see if there is some natural options for dealing with bipolar or whatever it is you have (of course do this with the blessing of your GP).

Just be careful, youve done well as it is, just keep it going.
 
Thanks everyone. I have a shrink appointment with my regular shrink this afternoon. I'm still calm. She's not going to have me committed (I'm pretty sure, anyway...). I think as long as I stick with this program--lots of counseling+(most likely) frequent "med checks--I think I'll be fine. On the one hand, I was honest and stood up to the system. Awesome. On the other hand, God does give us discernment, so maybe I should use it once in a while.

I don't know what to do. I was planning on going back to Vocational Rehab, but the counselor they assigned to me is a mental health counselor, so she's probably fully aware of the situation.

You know what's strange? Before the Lord was in my life, I really could have been committed. I mean, I wasn't flying off the handle, actively crazy, but I was slowed down, moronic, brain-damaged kinda crazy. I don't know how much meds would have helped back then, but some talk therapy might have been nice.

That went on for years. Fast forward about 5 years: God is in my life, and I almost got committed. My Pentecostal friend said its an attack from the Devil. He is working through un-believers, trying to bring me down. Also, I think this situation is embarrassing for my ex-shrink. He would talk about how I just wanted to be bipolar to be special and how I was hopelessly narcissistic and brain damaged. I remember, once, lying in bed hearing male voices outside my house. "Yeah, Dr.X says he'll be dead in about 2 years. Suicide or pills." Well, that was 6 years ago. I'm healthy, my hair has grown back, I'm not addicted to anything, and narcissism is no longer my diagnosis.

Ugh. I guess having to talk your way out of commitment is sometimes the price of progress.
 
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You know what's strange? Before the Lord was in my life, I really could have been committed. I mean, I wasn't flying off the handle, actively crazy, but I was slowed down, moronic, brain-damaged kinda crazy. I don't know how much meds would have helped back then, but some talk therapy might have been nice.
That went on for years. Fast forward about 5 years: God is in my life, and I almost got committed. My Pentecostal friend said its an attack from the Devil. He is working through un-believers, trying to bring me down.
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Your Pentecostal friend is right. You are winning, and in fact, have won the battle - and the enemy is fighting back. He is a fantastic loser. He will never succeed. Don't let him. Those guys are jerks. The devil uses them.
 
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