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If atheism isn't a religion... what is it then?

Claudya said:
"King" David... Be carefull, you're getting closer and closer to idolatry. Well I'm not much into soccer (well I used to be a fan of Schalke 04 when I was a lot younger, young teenager or so. But only because they had a few hot looking players, not because of the actual soccer. ) but I kinda know David Villa (I suppose I did see him on screen during the last world cup or Euro cup) or at least I did recognise that your profile pic is some spanish soccer player, and from that point it wasn't hard to remember the name. I'm okay with anyone demolishing Bayern, btw.
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And on that day Chelsea demolished Bayern. UEFA CL 2011/2012 I prayed God didn't answer. Chelsea stole (from FCB and Bayern) what they didn't merrit.:sad:crying :crying4 However, today, where is the Blues on UEFA CL 2012/2013 list? Hahhahahaahahhahaahahahhaha :topictotopic
 
plaincents822 said:
It is different for many atheists. I can tell you that most atheists that I have personally met or talked to grew up in a household with religion in it, and later became atheists. Although I have recently been meeting more people that grew up in an atheist or secular family. But many of us have actually deeply studied various religions, and found contradictions that steer us away from them. Meanwhile science (though imperfect) tends to better explain in a rational sense what occurs around us. I personally grew up in a Catholic household (though my parents weren't very religious, we maybe went to church 2-3 times a year). I was for a while similar to my parents being lapsed Catholics, and though I believed in God, God was never really on my mind. Eventually as I lost my faith in Catholicism, I began to have the idea that maybe God wasn't interested in us anymore. I looked at like if the earth was a flower in God's garden, would God really care if one flower wilted and died? I then from there moved to a Nietzsche-esque "God is dead" stance. I eventually moved into Deism, and then shortly after atheism. As far as how to "prove" yourself as an atheist, there would probably be several ways. I believe Daniel Dennett and Richard Dawkins set up a program called The Clergy Project for atheists that were previously minsters, priests, and clergymen. In order to become part of the program they "screen" you to make sure you are an atheist. Really the only way I could imagine they could make sure would be if they had the person denounce their faith. A truly religious person would not openly denounce their faith I would assume.
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Alright. Thanks alot.
 
plaincents822 said:
Absolutely, no problemo.



Sure does. I participate on an atheist forum as well, and there are a few members that were previously atheist, and are now Christian/Buddhist/Jewish, etc.
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So atheism like anything else is a matter of choice.

Now as a born again Christian, I have the promise in the Bible that I will spend all eternity with God in a new body without sin.
That is worth looking forward to.
It is our blessed hope.

You may not believe that to be true, but what hope do you have after death in this body?
 
allenwynne said:
So atheism like anything else is a matter of choice.

Now as a born again Christian, I have the promise in the Bible that I will spend all eternity with God in a new body without sin.
That is worth looking forward to.
It is our blessed hope.

You may not believe that to be true, but what hope do you have after death in this body?
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To an atheist death is final. Once we die, we cease to exist. I'm not an atheist for the warm fuzzy feeling haha.
 
That warm fuzzy feeling is called life.
And this is no place to be laughing at my faith.
I am not laughing at you.
Now I question your purpose for being here.
 
I wouldn't consider atheism a religion, because its just the answer of whether or not you believe in a god or gods. Though I think some people allow themselves to attach their identity to the label. for me, I consider myself an atheist because I don't believe in a god or gods, but usually I don't use that as my identity. I prefer to tell people I'm a Rationalist, Skeptic, Libertarian, Wannabe Artist, college Student. The only time Atheism even comes up is if I'm asked directly if I'm a Christian, and half the time I answer that I'm just not religious to save drama storms.

I don't think its worth it to make a big deal out of whether Atheism is a religion or not, because it just seems like a waste to make a big deal about. Atheism doesn't really tell you about a person outside of one issue. That is my 2 cents on the issue. :)
 
Meatballsub said:
I wouldn't consider atheism a religion, because its just the answer of whether or not you believe in a god or gods. Though I think some people allow themselves to attach their identity to the label. for me, I consider myself an atheist because I don't believe in a god or gods, but usually I don't use that as my identity. I prefer to tell people I'm a Rationalist, Skeptic, Libertarian, Wannabe Artist, college Student. The only time Atheism even comes up is if I'm asked directly if I'm a Christian, and half the time I answer that I'm just not religious to save drama storms. I don't think its worth it to make a big deal out of whether Atheism is a religion or not, because it just seems like a waste to make a big deal about. Atheism doesn't really tell you about a person outside of one issue. That is my 2 cents on the issue. :)
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Thanks for your contribution. May I ask you a question? :dunno :shrug :confused
 
Classik said:
...In your own way (I forgot to add)
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As far as I understand and am concerned, everyone has delusions and Atheists are just as capable of delusion as anyone else. I see no point in calling anyone delusional or using catchphrases because it just comes off as rude. I also think most people that argue with such quotes as in post 10 as just being giants tools. I think its more important to understand that we all have our reasons for believing what we believe and that in order to understand why, we would have to come to having honest discussions with each other. I don't fault anyone for having different beliefs than me, they have their reasons. I'll discuss why I don't believe something, but I don't have the chip on my shoulder that I used to, or am I deluded to think I have all the answers. I prefer to just have a discussion at this point. :)
 
Thanks for your reply. So Christianity is neither a religion nor a delusion? (It's like you been playing some cool music for long now;))
 
Classik said:
Thanks for your reply. So Christianity is neither a religion nor a delusion? (It's like you been playing some cool music for long now;))
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I would say that Christianity is itself a religion. Its the Worship of Jesus Christ as the saviour and bringer of light to the kingdom of heaven and will bestow judgement. It has all the benchmarks. I don't classify it as a delusion itself, because then we'd have to get into what we mean by delusions. I'll just simply put that I don't believe all the claims of Christianity and I understand that at one time it made sense to me and still makes sense to others. I could be delusional, a Christian could be delusional, as far as I'm concerned, there is not point in arguing with each other over it. I think that the answers to our own personal journeys in life depend on our understanding and experiences. Personally, if I had to label anyone delusional, I'd say everyone is and leave it at that. Makes sense to me. :)
 
Meatballsub said:
I would say that Christianity is itself a religion. Its the Worship of Jesus Christ as the saviour and bringer of light to the kingdom of heaven and will bestow judgement. It has all the benchmarks. I don't classify it as a delusion itself, because then we'd have to get into what we mean by delusions. I'll just simply put that I don't believe all the claims of Christianity and I understand that at one time it made sense to me and still makes sense to others. I could be delusional, a Christian could be delusional, as far as I'm concerned, there is not point in arguing with each other over it. I think that the answers to our own personal journeys in life depend on our understanding and experiences. Personally, if I had to label anyone delusional, I'd say everyone is and leave it at that. Makes sense to me. :)
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Thanks once more :wave Besides your username contains 'ball' in the middle. It makes a lot of sense.:lol
 
allenwynne said:
That warm fuzzy feeling is called life.
And this is no place to be laughing at my faith.
I am not laughing at you.
Now I question your purpose for being here.
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I'm sorry I wasn't trying to be offensive. I wasn't even trying to take a shot at your beliefs. I was just poking fun of my own atheism, but the sarcasm got kinda lost across the interwebs. I was merely trying to say that atheism isn't exactly the most comforting thing.

EDIT: Also I completely agree with Meatball. Very sound.
 
Thank you plaincents822.
We are new to each other and we need to understand each other.
I always assume that a non-believer comes to a Christian forum to learn more about Christ and why people believe in him.
Sometimes people have ulterior motives behind their being here.
As far as atheism goes, I've never personally met someone who believes it to discuss it with.
So you and others being on this forum helps me to learn.
As for me, I am a soldier for Christ.
I will defend the gospel and protect the weak in faith.
But I am also a compassionate person and I care about those who don't know Jesus for whatever their reasons.
I am ready to discuss anything that may be on your mind.
 
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