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If Jesus Preached in Your Church, Which Bible Would He Use?

jasonc said:
The NIV, bah,I call the lxx the NIV of the tanach.
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Don't hate...lol.
It's a really popular translation. The original is at least. The newer releases of that translation are....not my cup of tea.

Politics are everywhere... Even inside of Christiandom. And the NIV is not affiliated with any particular denomination like the others are. (Which is why I liked it to begin with)

But now the HCSB even contradicts a few Baptist traditional beliefs...and it's their own Bible translation. A few pet verses may conform but the supporting ones to those verses don't.
Apostasy is at an all time high but so is the capabilities of your average person having above average hermeneutics (if they try beyond a commentary)

Even the Chinese underground church has commentaries these days...for a forbidden church they are doing just fine.
 
JohnDB said:
Don't hate...lol.
It's a really popular translation. The original is at least. The newer releases of that translation are....not my cup of tea.

Politics are everywhere... Even inside of Christiandom. And the NIV is not affiliated with any particular denomination like the others are. (Which is why I liked it to begin with)

But now the HCSB even contradicts a few Baptist traditional beliefs...and it's their own Bible translation. A few pet verses may conform but the supporting ones to those verses don't.
Apostasy is at an all time high but so is the capabilities of your average person having above average hermeneutics (if they try beyond a commentary)

Even the Chinese underground church has commentaries these days...for a forbidden church they are doing just fine.
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I have my reasons of preference. Being a jew and saved and understanding the stories from my culture is a bit different.there are things jews still do .oral passing of lineage.my family does it.
 
If Jesus preached in my church, I bet He wouldn't need or use a Bible. He's the author of the book, The Master of its subject((s)lol), He is The Word.

Man really fell hard, the day the need for apologetics came in into being.
 
jasonc said:
I have my reasons of preference. Being a jew and saved and understanding the stories from my culture is a bit different.there are things jews still do .oral passing of lineage.my family does it.
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I would think that you would like the ISR 98. (Institute for Scripture Research) made by Messianic Jews in South Africa.

It's different for sure...but accurate and without a Westernized influence.
 
JohnDB said:
I would think that you would like the ISR 98. (Institute for Scripture Research) made by Messianic Jews in South Africa.

It's different for sure...but accurate and without a Westernized influence.
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First time I heard of that.the mss is easily used by the jews today.
 
jasonc said:
First time I heard of that.the mss is easily used by the jews today.
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Copies are available online...
I actually own a hard copy. Kinda a rarity.

But it's scripture.
 
JohnDB said:
Politics are everywhere... Even inside of Christiandom. And the NIV is not affiliated with any particular denomination like the others are. (Which is why I liked it to begin with)
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There are certainly lots of people more aware of how the different translation than me, but a number of years ago I used to own a Christian Book store, so I had to get some understanding, and got a chance to see certain things. At the time the NIV seemed to be exclusively distributed by Zondervan Publishers. It appeared, and I so I think it was Zondervan that was behind the making of the NIV. They certainly were the ones promoting it, and seemingly the only publisher promoting it.

It wasn't the only translation they sold, though it seemed they had the exclusive rights, so they promoted it. The way they promoted it was as a partially paraphrased version. They seemed to feel that they could provide a better and easier to read version by not trying to keep word of word accuracy. This makes some sense because a word in one language is not always best translated to another language by using a single word. However that said, all the translators had the same problem, it's just that different approaches were taken.

For example, the Amplified Bible seems to feel the best solution to the problem of word for word not always being the best, is to provide options as you translate.

For example, Gal 1:6 the NIV reads - I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one...
the Amplified reads - I am surprised and astonished that you are so quickly turning renegade and deserting Him

I personally like the approach the NASB uses. The Lockman foundation did that translation. They tried to make it easy to read in American, yet also tried to keep a word for word approach, and I find it easy to read. Zondervan published the NASB also, but did not seem to have exclusive rights. It seemed other publishers were publishing it also. Zondervan put out a Bible catalog at that time, and they had a comparison of translation as far as word for word accuracy. They consider the NASB to be the most word for word translation, followed by the Amplified, King James, New King James, and then the NIV in about the middle of their list. They had translations like the New Living towards the bottom and the least word for word translation was the Message. I don't believe they had all the translations, but at least the major ones.

So I like the NASB because it is easy to read in American and they tried to keep a word for word translation. However if I really want a word for word look, I have a couple of interlinear translations. It is amazing when I look at them. Even the NASB is not close to word for word accuracy, when compared to an interlinear Bible.

Also I have had the Lord tell me to go to different translations at times. We should not ask what would Jesus do if He was hear, because we have the Spirit of God who brings us the words which God personally wants to speak to us. And while I normally read and study from the NASB, He does sometimes take me to different version for a reason. For example He has had me pick up the New Living in order to focus on a story in the Bible instead of the words said. He has also had me compare translations, then commented on the comparison. And I can remember a time when He did seem to like the translations, but they all will turn you to Him.

For example I pull up to the post office one day and suddenly He started talking to me telling me that His silliness was better than our best thinking. I corrected Him, reminding Him that it was written that His foolishness is better that our best thinking. He corrected me by telling me that He is not a fool and can not be a fool, but even He might get silly or have a little fun at times.

1 Cor 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

So the King James, Amplified, NASB, and NIV translators all fail to realize that God is not nor can be a fool. But He can have a bit of fun with us and be a little silly, yet even then He is wiser than men! So the point is that we need to talk to and listen to Him, because it is the Spirit of God that has the correct interpretation and not men.
 
Jesus read from the scriptures then he would read from them now.. Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever..

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

The question was which version would he use today?

Would he use a bible that makes him a liar, as the NIV and ESV do in John 7:8"

Brandon Staggs the creator of Sword Searcher said this..

Sometimes it’s hard for me to believe how many Christians will accept version upon version of the Bible that shows their Lord to be a liar, as the NIV, ESV, and so many others plainly do, but it would be crazy to think Jesus would carry a book to the pulpit that has him breaking the law he came to fulfil.





 
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turnorburn said:
Would he use a Bible that makes him a liar, as the NIV and ESV do in John 7:8?
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Great. another round of this KJV only nonsense.
The scriptures Jesus preached were the Old Testament just like every other New Testament preacher. (Because the NT hadn't been written yet)
And the version they consistently quoted was the Greek Septuagint, the one with the apocrypha and pseudepigrapha. (Just like the original 1611 KJV had.)
 
Jim, they are full of it, Jesus would use the Original and it was written in Hebrew and Aramaic. And it did not and does not have the twenty-seven Life Application commentaries we know as the New Testament. He would spoil the life of every KJVO alive and dead.

HEY! That was not that funny (but I thought it might be liked).
 
turnorburn said:
Which version do you suppose He'd use?
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Since Christ used the Hebrew Bible, which was the traditional text since the time of Moses, He would use only the Traditional Hebrew and Greek texts. Therefore in English He would use the KJV.
 
Malachi said:
Since Christ used the Hebrew Bible, which was the traditional text since the time of Moses, He would use only the Traditional Hebrew and Greek texts. Therefore in English He would use the KJV.
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I'll bite, why would He use a thought for thought translation that has been corrected over and over instead of a Word for Word translation such as the NASB that stands in a single printing as correct?
 
JohnDB said:
That's a 50 page thread at least.... We'll save that discussion for another day.
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The only arguments against the HCSB I've seen to date are pretty weak. But a 50 page thread sounds much too scary to read!
 
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