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If they so concerned about the kids.....

Garion said:
Also we aren't talking about any private schools BUT RELIGIOUS PRIVATE SCHOOLS DID YOU FORGET THAT YOU ARE ON A CHRISTIAN WEB SITE?

These institutions that are working for God get tax breaks because of that work.
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And they usually pay their teachers somewhere near the poverty level, while the school scrapes by. Administrators usually make a pretty penny, but not enough to pay for more than 1 kid if they wanted to donate to a worthy cause.
 
If I had a kid or two, I wouldn't want them in public schools. I'm fairly progressive on most issues, so I'm not frightened of "liberal bias" or whatever, but...whoa. Schools are basically preparing kids to live in an authoritarian society on constant lockdown. the only schools kids I remember who ever got cut any slack in HS (I'm in my early 30s, btw) were the kids from the upper-middle and upper-class families ("good families"). Everybody else...

not so much. And I don't know if going to a private school would have changed that for me, or if it would change it for anyone else, either. Looking back, a lot of my "mental problems" stemmed from public schools. Seriously. My parents were working class when I was a kid, then lower middle class, the middle-middle class....and their upward mobility meant I was in Honors, but I wasn't wanted in Honors. I ended up graduating a year early to get out of HS, and then I was considered "uppity" for graduating a year early, because that was (apparently...) only appropriate for people from "good families." blah.

i remember now...this one dude from a rich family, coming into class stoned into oblivion...the teacher laughing about it. I couldn't even look out the window during math class without being the teacher getting upset with me. others had it worse. this one kid...i remember teachers being hard on him, even in elementary school, for no really good reason (his parents were/are poor, btw). I think I heard he's in federal prison now.

im glad i don't have kids. i never really wanted kids, don't now. but if i was somehow in charge of a child's education, i don't know that id even want to go for a private school, even a christian one. maybe home schooling, networking with other home schooling families, stuff like that.
 
OK I apologize what I meant was these people that have enough money to build their nice church and pay thousands a month in maintenance should be spending that money educating children BEFORE they start talking about public schools educating according to their doctrine.

Keep in mind that I believe that children should learn about God as young as possible BUT FROM THEIR PARENTS.

It's reprehensible that some people want to profit from God while having the tax payers pay to push their beliefs.
 
Garion said:
OK I apologize what I meant was these people that have enough money to build their nice church and pay thousands a month in maintenance should be spending that money educating children BEFORE they start talking about public schools educating according to their doctrine.

Keep in mind that I believe that children should learn about God as young as possible BUT FROM THEIR PARENTS.

It's reprehensible that some people want to profit from God while having the tax payers pay to push their beliefs.
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I agree that children should learn about the Lord as young as possible but not all children can learn about Him from their parents because many people aren't even Christians. Sad, but true.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
I agree that children should learn about the Lord as young as possible but not all children can learn about Him from their parents because many people aren't even Christians. Sad, but true.
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I don't believe that one needs to be a Christian in order to live by and teach their children God's advice.

These supposed "good" Christian pretty much hijacked His word to profit from it.

God's word advice if you will is purely functional in that for a society to function it is necessary to follow it.

There are many many people who live by God's word that aren't even aware of it, Native American did and do for generations because Jesus came around and taught them that it is necessary to live that way but they were not technically Christian.

They didn't even know that label until the white people started beating the "savage" out of them and forcing them to be christian.
 
Garion said:
I don't believe that one needs to be a Christian in order to live by and teach their children God's advice.

These supposed "good" Christian pretty much hijacked His word to profit from it.

God's word advice if you will is purely functional in that for a society to function it is necessary to follow it.

There are many many people who live by God's word that aren't even aware of it, Native American did and do for generations because Jesus came around and taught them that it is necessary to live that way but they were not technically Christian.

They didn't even know that label until the white people started beating the "savage" out of them and forcing them to be christian.
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about parents teaching their children about God and Jesus through the Bible which I truly wish everyone did by the way. After I found the love of God, I never wanted and I never do want to return to my old life of being without Him, however, unfortunately not everybody feels that way.
 
Garion said:
OK I apologize what I meant was these people that have enough money to build their nice church and pay thousands a month in maintenance should be spending that money educating children BEFORE they start talking about public schools educating according to their doctrine.

Keep in mind that I believe that children should learn about God as young as possible BUT FROM THEIR PARENTS.

It's reprehensible that some people want to profit from God while having the tax payers pay to push their beliefs.
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Ok, not every private school is supported by a mega-church that may have the scratch to fully fund a school. There are plenty of Christian private schools (like the one I grew up in) that, even though it is supported by a church, still needs to charge tuition in order to keep the doors open.
 
You know this is just a shot in the dark here, but perhaps children don't have to be taught by anyone to follow the Lord. After all I don't exactly come from a highly religious family and look how far my faith has gotten me already. I decided to commit my life to Jesus, read the Bible, go to church and get baptized all by myself without any instruction at all whatsoever except for listening to my own heart. Which I've learned on my own that although the mind can sometimes be deceiving, the heart never lies and that's how I suddenly became aware of just how real my faith and salvation really is which is exactly my point. There are some things that you just have to learn on your own that nobody can really teach you. However, since I have been going to church and reading my Bible I have learned a lot more about Christ. :cross
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
You know this is just a shot in the dark here, but perhaps children don't have to be taught by anyone to follow the Lord. After all I don't exactly come from a highly religious family and look how far my faith has gotten me already. I decided to commit my life to Jesus, read the Bible, go to church and get baptized all by myself without any instruction at all whatsoever except for listening to my own heart. Which I've learned on my own that although the mind can sometimes be deceiving, the heart never lies and that's how I suddenly became aware of just how real my faith and salvation really is which is exactly my point. There are some things that you just have to learn on your own that nobody can really teach you. However, since I have been going to church and reading my Bible I have learned a lot more about Christ. :cross
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Do you attend a church regularly? God may have called you to him without other means, however, after that it is always beneficial to plug into a true bible believing church so you may grow in your faith under the leadership of blessed elders and pastors.
 
Knotical said:
Do you attend a church regularly? God may have called you to him without other means, however, after that it is always beneficial to plug into a true bible believing church so you may grow in your faith under the leadership of blessed elders and pastors.
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That depends what you mean by regulary. I go there quite often just not every single week. My whole entire family is Christian by the way, but nobody is extremely highly religious just pointing that part out for the record. I do enjoy going to church, but sometimes I can't make it and sometimes my mother and I or one or the other just don't feel like going and so that idea is never forced since we make ourselves the church anywhere we go and know that God is with us always. I do read a bit of the Bible every single night though.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
That depends what you mean by regulary. I go there quite often just not every single week. My whole entire family is Christian by the way, but nobody is extremely highly religious just pointing that part out for the record. I do enjoy going to church, but sometimes I can't make it and sometimes my mother and I or one or the other just don't feel like going and so that idea is never forced since we make ourselves the church anywhere we go and know that God is with us always. I do read a bit of the Bible every single night though.
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Of course I am not expecting you to attend every single week. We do have things in our lives that prevent that. But are you a member in good standing at your home church?
 
Knotical said:
Of course I am not expecting you to attend every single week. We do have things in our lives that prevent that. But are you a member in good standing at your home church?
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I'm not actually considered a member yet, I have been thinking about it ever since I got baptized there, but yeah, I have pretty good attendance and go when I can and feel up to it. I love the Lord don't get me wrong it's just,.. hmm,.. how do I put this exactly? I don't even really know except for the fact I'm much more laid back of a Christian and I don't let things offend me easily like some people do on here. I'm a chilled Christian that enjoys fantasy movies like Harry Potter and and actually enjoys having normal conversations with people whether they are Christian or not without constantly forcing my beliefs down their throat because I know there is actually a right time and a right place to discuss my faith. That's just the type of person that I am.
 
No offense to anyone else here that's like that though, it just isn't me.
 
For anybody reading this who is a bit confused,. I'm more religious than I used to be, but I consider myself to be more of a spiritual person.
 
Garion said:
OK I apologize what I meant was these people that have enough money to build their nice church and pay thousands a month in maintenance should be spending that money educating children BEFORE they start talking about public schools educating according to their doctrine.

Keep in mind that I believe that children should learn about God as young as possible BUT FROM THEIR PARENTS.

It's reprehensible that some people want to profit from God while having the tax payers pay to push their beliefs.
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Ok but the people you describe are out to lunch. Public schools are NOT going to be teaching religious beliefs, aside from maybe an elective comparative religion class or something, which is not nearly the same thing.
 
And they shouldn't be.
They are exactly that.. public poor schools

And if you noticed that the people talking about education in school today with religion are rich.

The rich have nothing but time on their hands... I know... I live among them.

And they want me out

So they will form the next generation in their mold .....that's Not a bad thing

Thank God that He is now putting a end to all.
 
If religion is taught in public schools, who's religion? You can't establish the teaching of one religion (see the establishment clause of the first amendment). You'd have to give equal time to ALL religions, The various Christian denominations, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism. The teaching of faith (or lack thereof) is up to PARENTS, not the schools. Thing is, too many parents have abdicated this duty also. If the children see their parents and family LIVE their faith, they'll live it too.
 
The Bible doesn't command public schools. The Bible commands that children be trained up in the way they should go. No excuses.
 
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