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If you'd read this, it'd mean a lot. I need advice.

Hey everyone. I'm new here and I hope that I might get advice on what to do about the relationship I'm in. This is long, and it's going to feel like I have no point to it and that I'm just telling a really long story, but you will see if you read it all that I do have a need for some advice, and it would mean the world to me if some of you would take the time to read it and to help if you could. Thank you so much.

So, I am 18 years old and my boyfriend is 23, just for your own information... in case you wonder. 3 and a half years ago I decided to join a christian site, known as CTF. Back then, I wanted a boyfriend so badly because all my life I dreamed about having one, about getting my first kiss, and I felt like it was never going to happen for me. At 14 I felt it was terrible that I had never had a boyfriend in person and never been kissed. That's not really the case, but I'm a big romantic and I just felt like it was taking forever to happen. I remember praying every night for God to send me someone who would love me for me, and find me beautiful (inside and out) just the way I am. Well, on this Christian site, I met who is now my boyfriend. He was a sweet talker, and he won my attention that way. We talked quite a bit, and he told me right off that he loved me. He said I was different, that I had a pure heart, and that he could tell I did right from the start. He asked me to be his girlfriend.

I thought about it a bit, but how could I say no? He seemed to really like me and he seemed like a very decent and sweet person. Back then the age difference seemed crazy. But we gave it a shot anyway. I even had to keep it a secret from my grandparents for a long time because I knew they wouldn't approve of it (I live with them). So, here I was in a long distance relationship with him. In the beginning, I was only in the relationship because he was sweet and I really wanted a boyfriend (totally the wrong reason to be with somebody, I know that now). I didn't truly love him in that way for quite a while, actually. And for those reasons, I got very confused to the point I'd break up with him, and then get back with him. I didn't know what I felt, or what I wanted. I prayed a lot.

About a year into the relationship, I felt that I truly loved him in the same way he loved me. I knew God had placed a love for him in my heart that had not been there the whole time. Or maybe it had... but just started out really small and grew bigger until I could see it/realize it. Talking to him back then was wonderful... we were learning all about each other. We started talking not only in chat on the computer, but in voice on the phone. His voice was music to my ears. So comforting. So sweet. Gentle. He had all these cute nicknames he came up with for me, over the time, and he would call me them a lot. I found it so sweet. I wrote him poems a lot and we even wrote each other letters and sent things through the mail. It would definitely make my day to receive a hand-written letter from my love. He knew it meant a lot to me.

Eventually I could not take the guilt of hiding the relationship from my grandparents, so I told them about him (though I told my gmaw a while before I ever told my gpaw). It took a while, but they grew to accept it and wanted whatever made me happy. I live in North Carolina. He lives in Arizona. We had never even met in person, and he is 5 years older than me. You can imagine how hard it was for them to find out all this information at once, and that I had kept it from them. But, we kept on being together. I remember how he helped me get into the Bible more. I would hardly ever read it. Not because I didn't want to, but because I didn't understand a lot of it and because I'd get distracted (the devil is good at doing that to you.. drawing our focus on what's not near as important). He had me look up at least one trait of God in the Bible every day, and post what I found on a website he set up for me. We also prayed together just about every night that we could. But things were hard at times. I hated that we were so far apart, and after waiting such a long time, I wondered if we'd ever really meet.

I got confused about us a lot, but I also prayed about it a lot. So we waited and waited. He was good to me. Even though everything was pretty great, I do remember a couple things that would get to me even back then. We would talk on yahoo, and he would say "brb"... so be right back means what it says, right? He should be back soon, I'd think, so I'll wait. I would sit here at the computer, waiting patiently for him.... and many times he'd do this to me, and he would not come back on until 2 or 3 hours later. I had waited the whole time.... just because I wanted to talk to him that badly and cared that much about getting to talk to him. But then I'd just be upset because he did that to me quite a lot, and he never seemed to have that good of reasons. He just was "busy".

I would tell him he could at least tell me it's going to be a while so I don't sit there and wait for hours. He said ok but he never did start doing it. I don't know exactly how long ago it was when it started, but I do know that things started fading away. Growing up, for as long as I can remember, I always thought about how when I'm with the love of my life, I would want him to do randomly sweet things for me just because he loves me and cares about me (and of course I'd do the same for him). And I always thought how I wouldn't want that sweetness to ever end. Sure, there will be hard times, there will be times where the sweetness isn't there as much as other times, but it would return because true love never dies. However, for my boyfriend and I, many things have changed and faded. Slowly but surely, one thing after another. And I figured out something along the way.

It is seriously important for that sweetness to be there (at least for me). It shows that he cares, that he loves me in not just a really good friend, but as much more. As a lover. As a partner. It means that he would care enough to want to do those sweet things, just because he loves me and knows it makes me happy. I'm not at all trying to be selfish. It's just the way I feel cared for in an affectionate way. Over time though, many things stopped. He no longer called me the sweet nicknames he came up with for me. He no longer wrote me letters. I wrote him two letters after he stopped writing me, but he never did write me back. He didn't call as much, and when he did call me it was almost always really late at night for me (and he knows it's hard on me because he's a whole three hours earlier than my time), and over the years I have sacraficed so much sleep just to be able to talk to him but I never felt like he had done the same for me very much. He used to tell me how he felt about me, how I was his universe, and that he didn't want to lose me. He basically stopped doing that too. To top it all off, we would just be on the phone in silence most of the time now. There was nothing there. Nothing to say except "I love you" repeatedly. I love him, I love hearing those words. But it has, so many times, felt like just something to say to fill in the huge gaps of silence. Just merely words. And I do not like that. I remember how when we first were together, I could hear it in his voice when he said those words. I could hear that he cared. Truly cared. I rarely hear that in his voice anymore.

All of this happened, and I felt like I was so lonely and not that cared for. I broke up with him so many times out of confusion, but he always took me back and loved me unconditionally. I love who he is as a person. I could never stay broken up with him. I have told him everything about me and trusted him with so much, and I definitely feel like he is a huge part of me. He told me he was going to come to my graduation. About a month before that, we were having a lot of problems, and I wanted to break up but I could not do it knowing how long we had waited and that he might actually come to see me in a month. So I waited and we had waited 3 and a half long years.... and we finally met in person. Just this summer, actually. Him and his dad came over here for my graduation, for 3 full days. 3 years... for 3 days. But I loved every minute of it. In person I felt very cared for by him, because he did a lot of sweet things and said a lot of sweet things. But I have to admit, it was nothing like I had expected it to be. I had my first kiss this summer. I had always expected my first kiss to be really magical... you know, sparks flying and breath-taking. It was not, not at all. Actually, it wasn't too appealing to be honest. It was new to me though. It felt weird. I was not used to it, and it felt very very awkward. I had been really nervous too though. We tried it again, and still, it wasn't too great. But I kept trying. I had to go out to my car to come home, and I kissed him right before I left, and that was when I finally felt something. Like something was actually there. From then on it got better with every kiss until it was quite amazing. But still, it was never really breath-taking. But it was special, it was wonderful. But it all ended, and he had to go back home.

Things were pretty good, and 3 weeks later, as crazy and amazing as it is, I flew over to Arizona, where he lives, and went on a mission trip with him to Canada (he's been going for 5 years, I believe, and he invited me to go, and my grandparents said it was my choice since I am now 18) and his family for 3 whole weeks. I had hardly been anywhere in my entire life. So it was quite something for me, a big experience. I spent every day being around him. It was absolutely great, and I cherished every moment, but even in person we had some hard times. That's expected in relationships, no doubt. He showed he cared about me though, in many ways. Then I came back home. And everything has seemed to go downhill from there. Truly downhill. I had been staying up every night crying because I felt lonely. I felt like he didn't care about me in the same way anymore. Of course he said he did. And I talked to him about all of this. But nothing would really change, he'd call me one of the nicknames that night and then the next day everything was the same old.

When I asked him what had happened to the sweetness, he told me "well, some guys just aren't naturally romantic". And he basically said he's just not that way. But what gets to me is that he used to do all those sweet things, so I know he has it in him somewhere to do that. I want to inspire that in the love of my life. Wouldn't you think it would if you were really in love with someone? Cause I know I still love to do sweet things for him, if only to bring a smile to his face if I can, and to let him know I still love him so much. It doesn't have to be anything major, just calling me something sweet or leaving me an offline message saying that he misses me and loves me would mean a lot. But he never does those things. So then, after we talked about it again, he told me he quit with the nicknames because he didn't want to wear them out or for me to get bored of them(which honestly, I don't think I ever would, nor did I ever tell him that I would), and that life just got busy so it was hard to write letters, and so on. I felt and still felt like he doesn't take out the time for me like I try to do for him. I've told him everything on how I feel, all of this.

A little over a week ago, him and I were on the phone and I was singing for him. All of the sudden the phone cut off, so I figured it went dead. He never calls me while it's charging, because he says it ruins the battery life. So I figured he would call back once it was charged. So I did some things and waited for him to call back sometime. So, over 3 hours later he gets on yahoo and emails me, asking why yahoo isn't working. It was much later then when the phone cut off, so I knew he hadn't been on yahoo for long. He could've gotten on fb. I had been crying because I felt like he didn't care, yet again. It just struck me that if he really wanted to talk to me at all, that all he had to do was get on yahoo IM, or facebook, soon after the phone went dead. He knows I'm usually logged on to one of those. But he doesn't do it. He never does. And there I was, left alone, wanting to talk to him and not being able to at all. I ended up feeling so upset that I broke up with him again. I just couldn't bare it.

So after a week, I got back with him. I can never seem to stand being apart from him, and I never know if it's the right thing to do because I feel so lost without him. It's like, how could anyone ever compare... no one else is him, the guy I fell in love with. And I've kissed him, and I always wanted the guy I kissed to be the only one I ever kissed. I kissed him because I knew I loved him very very much and would want to spend my life with him. But at the same time, it's very different when we're not in person. He mentions how I just have to think of how it is in person. But, it's not just about that. Our relationship is long distance right now, has been for a long time, and in order to make it work he should put in as much effort now, this way, as he would in person. Wouldn't you agree? Just the other night we were on the phone and he wasn't listening to hardly anything I said. So I said "good night" and I got no response. I said, "helloooo?", nothing. So I hung up. Did he call back? no. I wrote him a message on yahoo saying how this is the kinda thing that makes me feel like he doesn't care. The next day he acted like nothing happened. He always does that and I have to be the one to bring it up. Like how is it going to get solved if you just don't talk about it, you know? It's just so exhausting. I care so much for him but I don't feel it equally returned. I feel like he cares for me and loves me, no doubt... but I often wonder if he's truly in love with me, and loves me in that special, love of my life, kinda way. He's always said he's committed to me, and he's never left me. And I truly don't think he ever would. But I have a need to feel cared for, and I don't know what to do anymore.


Do you think I should keep on in this relationship? There's just so much to the situation I can't type it all or all the circumstances that's made me feel like he didn't care much about me. But I can't see that I could ever be with anyone else. It's like it hurts either way, with or without him. I don't want to be without him, but I want to feel cared for in that special way. I'm really confused. Please help if you could. Thank you. <3 And God bless.
 
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Yes i read the whole thing!

Give your self a chance dont put all your heart in the first basket you find.
Back in 1961 we didn't have computers but guess what we had phones. After a few times i found out that when he said "hold on my mom needs me..." he was on the other phone line talking to another girl...

Time moves on but things stay the same....

He may be the one for you just make sure you dont settle.

Please break your post into paragraphs :crazy
 
Yes i read the whole thing!

Give your self a chance dont put all your heart in the first basket you find.
Back in 1961 we didn't have computers but guess what we had phones. After a few times i found out that when he said "hold on my mom needs me..." he was on the other phone line talking to another girl...

Time moves on but things stay the same....

He may be the one for you just make sure you dont settle.

Please break your post into paragraphs :crazy

Okay, I broke it up into paragraphs. I should've done that to begin with, but it was late last night when I wrote it and I was tired, so I just typed it up and didn't bother with paragraphs. Thank you for reading all of it and for replying.

I believe with all my heart that he's not cheating on me or anything like that. That's not at all the problem. It's just the caring part that gets to me. that's all. i love him a lot... I just want to feel cared for in the way that I used to by him. I just didn't want all the sweetness to fade away....
 
oh lord, i read that.

well then to some of this i can relate on both ends.

my wife complains that i was at one time more romantic(which i was far more then i am now:bigfrown).this happens with men as they like the hunt and when its over they just get board. it doenst make it right but that is our nature.

perhaps a time away from him. man, i need to write my wife one those old love poems i used to, man i was a sap then,lol.

ah but its good to feel again. war made me numb and i neglected the romance part of my marriage all too long.
 
oh lord, i read that.

well then to some of this i can relate on both ends.

my wife complains that i was at one time more romantic(which i was far more then i am now:bigfrown).this happens with men as they like the hunt and when its over they just get board. it doenst make it right but that is our nature.

perhaps a time away from him. man, i need to write my wife one those old love poems i used to, man i was a sap then,lol.

ah but its good to feel again. war made me numb and i neglected the romance part of my marriage all too long.



Maybe so (about it being in your nature), but I just know that I've seen it (not all that often, but on occasion...) that some couples keep that romanticness, and that the guy will continue to do those randomly sweet things for her, just because he loves her that much. Maybe I just have too high of hopes. *sigh* Thanks for replying.
 
I'm seeing two very very different things going on.

One is the random sweetness. I don't know about forever, but my husband has kept it up for 17 years, so it can be done. But it's also true that a lot of people - men and women - lose the expression of it over time. To me this is something that loving talks can help address. That this is a language that you need to get his message. I recall reading in a book about Asperger's Syndrome of a boy whose mother was despondent that he never said "I love you". He was about 15 years old. The therapist asked him about it one day, sort of off-hand, and he looked up, totally surprised and said, "What? That's weird. I told her when I was six that I loved her. Did she think it went away?" That's an extreme case, but the reality is true as Jason said, that many people are inspired to more actions when they are trying to convince someone of their love, and less when they feel that it has become mutually certain.

So you may need to explain to him that these acts of sweetness are not not so much an expression of love that you need, but an expression of happiness that you crave. - Or ask yourself, are they actually an expression of love that you need as "proof" that you are lovable? That would be important for you to know about yourself. In a way you say that when you say "I just want to inspire that in my partner" that it's your fail that he doesn't feel it.

You may need to evaluate his personality. Understanding that some people will only do that stuff for the courtship. Are you okay with being married to one like that? Or will you wither without the tenderness?

Those questions are nuanced, but I suggest you reflect genuinely about what you need and what you want and what's the difference between the two, so that you can be content with a good life that isn't the very perfect imagined.

...

Now the other issue is the hang-ups and the brb and the hours wait.
Those strike me a quite rude and as Reba said, they raised red flags for me, too. What can distract a guy so badly that he fails to reconnect a lost call while his girl is singing to him? Errr.... it doesn't feel good.

There's no common ground between a guy who writes sweet letters and a guy who drops calls/IMs on a regular basis without apology. I fear it sounds like a guy who is exactly like one who would pursue with a full court press and drop the pretense when he's certain of his catch.

I realize you kids have different phone manners than we did, but to me, personally, no amount of tender would make up for repeated rudeness of leaving you hanging when you've said straight up you were left hanging.

That seemed like two completely different stories. Like a guy with two completely different faces.
 
I'm seeing two very very different things going on.

One is the random sweetness. I don't know about forever, but my husband has kept it up for 17 years, so it can be done. But it's also true that a lot of people - men and women - lose the expression of it over time. To me this is something that loving talks can help address. That this is a language that you need to get his message. I recall reading in a book about Asperger's Syndrome of a boy whose mother was despondent that he never said "I love you". He was about 15 years old. The therapist asked him about it one day, sort of off-hand, and he looked up, totally surprised and said, "What? That's weird. I told her when I was six that I loved her. Did she think it went away?" That's an extreme case, but the reality is true as Jason said, that many people are inspired to more actions when they are trying to convince someone of their love, and less when they feel that it has become mutually certain.

So you may need to explain to him that these acts of sweetness are not not so much an expression of love that you need, but an expression of happiness that you crave. - Or ask yourself, are they actually an expression of love that you need as "proof" that you are lovable? That would be important for you to know about yourself. In a way you say that when you say "I just want to inspire that in my partner" that it's your fail that he doesn't feel it.

You may need to evaluate his personality. Understanding that some people will only do that stuff for the courtship. Are you okay with being married to one like that? Or will you wither without the tenderness?

Those questions are nuanced, but I suggest you reflect genuinely about what you need and what you want and what's the difference between the two, so that you can be content with a good life that isn't the very perfect imagined.

...

Now the other issue is the hang-ups and the brb and the hours wait.
Those strike me a quite rude and as Reba said, they raised red flags for me, too. What can distract a guy so badly that he fails to reconnect a lost call while his girl is singing to him? Errr.... it doesn't feel good.

There's no common ground between a guy who writes sweet letters and a guy who drops calls/IMs on a regular basis without apology. I fear it sounds like a guy who is exactly like one who would pursue with a full court press and drop the pretense when he's certain of his catch.

I realize you kids have different phone manners than we did, but to me, personally, no amount of tender would make up for repeated rudeness of leaving you hanging when you've said straight up you were left hanging.

That seemed like two completely different stories. Like a guy with two completely different faces.


Yeah. It does seem that way, huh?

I mean, just last night I was feeling kind of depressed, I had a lot on my mind including all of this that I typed up, and when we were on the phone I told him that. He said he would pray for me. Then I said I was going to go because I truly didn't feel like talking, so he said okay. I always have felt that if he truly cared about me as much as he says, if he knows I'm sick or that I've been down and depressed, and I got off the phone the night before for that reason, that he would want to call pretty early on the next day to see how I'm doing. I know I have done that when he was depressed or sick, or anything of the sort... because I love him so much and want to be there for him and I feel the need to know that he's okay. But he did not call me today until 7 in the evening.

I still remember times in the past where he did the same thing, and wouldn't call until much later in the day or even that night. Then he would always make everything okay by having some really seemingly good excuse, like that his parents had a ton of things for him to do and he was focused on getting it all done (that is his excuse a lot of the time). But it still gets to me when that kind of thing happens. It's like he says he cares about me so much and thinks about me a lot, but I definitely feel like I get forgotten about easily in his day, and that makes me sad because I sure do think about him a whole lot, even after being with him for 3 and a half years, and it's simply because I care so much for him. I just want that in return.
 
Well having read your story, you remind me of myself except that I am a guy, and I have always wanted to get married and such. I am also the type to sit around and wait for hours on somebody and get torn up very easily and become emotional. Another thing that reminds myself of you is my decision making where you do things to hope to fix the problem or actually mean it at the time, but cannot follow through and possibly make it worse. Some things that I have noticed myself is that distance relationships are very hard to work out also, and this guy may be tired from dealing with distance especially after 3-1/2 years. 3-1/2 years is an awful long time to be in a long distance relationship so this is more than likely most of the reason why he has stopped doing alot of what he done in the beginning, but keep in mind that alot of people have amazing times within their dating stage and maybe a year or two into marriage and then they stop doing what they once did and the marriage becomes dull, so this guy might even tire out from making things new or doing those special things that keep the fire lit due to exhaustion in the relationship. Thats why you always hear people say relationships take a lot of hard work to keep them going because you must always do special things or new things so that fire dont die out or the relationship get boring. He is also getting a little older and within those years he may have been changing some, but i would say this is a minimal impact on your relationship with him at this point. I guess what I am trying to get down to is the primary reason for alot of what happened is that he may be bored with a long distance relationship that has gone on this long, and is a guy who tires out of doing special and meaninful things after a period of time. Of course this is only my opinion.

What should you do? Well thats a hard one to answer, and you will have to do that yourself but I will point a few things out that will help you in the future.

1. Be in control of your emotions. Dont let your emotions control you. I have a tough time with this myself. If you let your emotions control you, you will not only make hasty and reckless decisions, but you will continue to cry yourself to sleep over someone.

2. Dont wait around for somebody over and over again. I have ruined entire days over this. Dont throw all your plans off for a guy you will be waiting around on and if you are committed to other plans and the guy wants to do something, tell him you are busy and stay committed to your other plans unless they arent that important(in other words I am trying to say dont wrap your entire life around one person). Go find something to do and If you have a hard time with this than maybe its better to remain single for awhile longer and grow more so you may be more complete and happy in yourself alone, not needing anybody other than God to satisfy you.

3. Dont get the feeling that this guy you love or are head over heels with is "the one" or the person you are "meant to be with". Dont fall into that illusion. Its a tricky one but I have felt that a few different times that somebody is "the one". Trust that God will work things out with the right person for you in the right timing. You mentioned that you felt something when he kissed you. I must say this is why we must be careful when it comes to becoming physical or intimate with somebody, because it can open a whole new can of emotions and feelings. Something you must deal cautiously with at all times until you are married. To not allow those emotions and feelings that come from physical intimacy sweep you away and blind you from real issues at hand.

Anyways, my advice to you is to really give it all over to God and just seek him and pray that you will continue to grow and trust that he will give you the desires of your heart and bring them to pass in his timing. I am 28 years old and still single and I have those desires, but I have been growing alot and also have my trust put in God to bring those things to pass in his timing.

The last thing you need to do when making your decision whether to staying with him or leaving is to follow through. You have been really unstable, going back and forth with breakups and im quite surprised he kept going back. This terribly backfired on me TWICE! Twice I had to learn the hard way where i would end things but either not really mean it hoping it would change the other person, or actually meant it at the time but couldnt stick with it and both times I had these girls I actually didnt want to leave, leave. If you do decide to end things, make sure its the last and final time, and there can be no going back no matter what.

Well I wish you the best in whatever you decide to do. Keep God put as number one in your life. Keep yourself pure before marriage, and keep faith that things will work out with the right person. Dont feel like you wasted all this time on this guy so that you have to work things out now. If you are continually being hurt over and over again, it is not healthy for you. Keep that in mind. Blessings.

-John
 
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Maybe so (about it being in your nature), but I just know that I've seen it (not all that often, but on occasion...) that some couples keep that romanticness, and that the guy will continue to do those randomly sweet things for her, just because he loves her that much. Maybe I just have too high of hopes. *sigh* Thanks for replying.


well you come across as one who puts more faith in men then God. we need to remember God is source of our completeness, yes the desire to marry and procreate is holy. but we must remember that the spouse and kids arent God. they cant be an idol.

my wife called me crying at 0129 in the morning. it was over what we used to do. i dont mind that at all but she tends to make me jesus. i will once agian remind her that i'm not that and that i am unworthy of him who died for me. i cant be the rock of ages.yes we can and should lean on each other but ultamately we should as a couple all lean on christ.

i am in now way saying that those date things should stop but one realises that in marriage love is way deeper then sex,hugs and kisses. romance is but the beginning.

get married and stick it out and the trials you will face will make you see that fact.
 
I still remember times in the past where he did the same thing, and wouldn't call until much later in the day or even that night. Then he would always make everything okay by having some really seemingly good excuse, like that his parents had a ton of things for him to do and he was focused on getting it all done (that is his excuse a lot of the time). But it still gets to me when that kind of thing happens. It's like he says he cares about me so much and thinks about me a lot, but I definitely feel like I get forgotten about easily in his day, and that makes me sad because I sure do think about him a whole lot, even after being with him for 3 and a half years, and it's simply because I care so much for him. I just want that in return.


What kinds of things do you do with local kids? Your description talks about the times you are home waiting on him, but never the times when you are busy and engaged with real local people.

Are you on any recreational sports teams? Any community groups? Are you in school or do you have work mates with whom you relax?

I haven't heard you talk about a single other person in your post besides him and your parents.

No matter WHAT happens with him, you should be sure to cultivate other relationships. IMHO. And, in my opinion, if you're not doing that now you should do it ASAP before you make any commitment to this guy, so that you have a *YOU* that is stable all on its own, happy all on its own, engaged all on its own and doesn't require him to complete.

I have done that when he was depressed or sick, or anything of the sort... because I love him so much and want to be there for him and I feel the need to know that he's okay. But he did not call me today until 7 in the evening.

You might want to consider WHAT your love is. Do you love *him* or do you love being in love? What is it about *him* that you love?

And WHAT is his love? What does he want out of a relationship? What's his ideal relationship look like? How does he picture the two of you 10 years from now, 20, 40?
 
John: Thank you so much for your input. It's nice to know that someone can relate. You're right about many things and I've had to learn some of it gradually over time and sometimes it still doesn't get quite through my head, apparently. I definitely know that I shouldn't have broken up with him so many times, and you're right that it was, a lot of the time, just done in hopes that he would change and everything would be fine, or I really did mean that I wanted to break up for good and just felt like I could not stay apart from him. I feel like a huge piece of me would be missing if I did stay broken up, and I kept telling myself that I knew I couldn't keep breaking up with him and if I were going to do so again, then it would have to be for good, but I just never could seem to follow through with it. But I definitely know you're right on that.

Relationships do take a lot of work and one thing I've learned is that if God isn't in the center of the relationship, you will experience problems and it will be way harder to deal with than it would be if God were right there in the center of everything. We haven't prayed as much together (though we still do at times) as we used to and I'm sure that's part of the issue.

Either way, I just wish I knew for sure what I wanted, and what God wanted.I pray about it quite a lot and I know in time He will show me. It's just overwhelming sometimes. I have thought before that maybe my boyfriend is the type of guy who uses the sweet talk and what-not to get what he wants and then when he knows he has it, he stops doing it because he knows he doesn't have to anymore. But I always hoped it would continue on, and I really do feel that with true love, both people would want to try their best to keep the fire going.




Jason & Rhea: I know that the romanticness isn't the most important thing, or even near it. I do know that. It's just something I feel should be there. I love who he is as a person, in that he is a Christian who loves God very much, and I could always see that in him.. it's what really caught my attention in him from the beginning, even before my feelings for him came about. And I liked how he could make me laugh, and I felt that I could tell him absolutely anything and trust him, and still do. He's got a very different look on things than most people which I find interesting to study as well. It's not that I love him only because of the sweet things he used to do or the feeling of being in love... I love him for much deeper things than that. But, it still doesn't erase the fact that I feel the need to feel cared for and loved in that gf/special way. You know?

I definitely do not in any way try to make him out to be an idol, or to make him out to be God. He is very important to me, yes, but God is much more important and he is number one in my life. I, like many other people, do have a hard time putting my trust in Him with everything sometimes, but I always try to, knowing that he will never lead me astray. God comes first.


And Rhea, I am in college. I like to bowl on leagues and the league I usually bowl on starts back this Saturday and I am going to be on it. I also spend a lot of time with family. I have three little cousins who I love as if they were my own and I love being with them any chance I can. I tie dye with the oldest one, she's 9. I love tie dying, it's so much fun. And I love to be creative, making bracelets and what-not. So I do have other things that I do, and people that I am around. I didn't mention anyone else in the thread because it wasn't involving them, it was involving my relationship with my boyfriend.

Though I'm sure I could try more to get out and meet more people, so I will try to do that, you make a good point.

I also like the questions you asked at the end, and I will be asking those questions to him to find out those answers, because those are things I need to know that will also help me to know what I want.



Thank you guys for all the input, it means a lot.
 
Either way, I just wish I knew for sure what I wanted, and what God wanted.I pray about it quite a lot and I know in time He will show me.

Your welcome, ForeverYours. Just really make sure you know what you want before you ever make a big decision. You are very young(still 10 years behind me and people tell me I am very young), so take some time to really find yourself and know exactly what you want. It may be unrealistic to want a prince charming who is your knight in shining armor who will never let you down, but it is not unrealistic to have some very good expectations of what you want in somebody. So before you ever make any big life changing decisions, find out what you really like and really want and go after that. Making a decision, especially like getting married when you arent sure what you want can be disastrous if 5-10 years later you start finding out everything you want and then your committed to somebody that is everything you dont want. So start doing some soul searching and pray to God that he will help you know your own self better. By the way, God wants whats best for you. :)
 
Your welcome, ForeverYours. Just really make sure you know what you want before you ever make a big decision. You are very young(still 10 years behind me and people tell me I am very young), so take some time to really find yourself and know exactly what you want. It may be unrealistic to want a prince charming who is your knight in shining armor who will never let you down, but it is not unrealistic to have some very good expectations of what you want in somebody. So before you ever make any big life changing decisions, find out what you really like and really want and go after that. Making a decision, especially like getting married when you arent sure what you want can be disastrous if 5-10 years later you start finding out everything you want and then your committed to somebody that is everything you dont want. So start doing some soul searching and pray to God that he will help you know your own self better. By the way, God wants whats best for you. :)


I will do my best to make sure of what I want before I make any big decisions. And yeah, God always wants what is best for us.(: I just wish I knew what is. lol But patience is key. That is the one thing God has been teaching me for years now. Good things come with patience and waiting on Him.

I hope I can figure out some things soon.
 
So I do have other things that I do, and people that I am around. I didn't mention anyone else in the thread because it wasn't involving them, it was involving my relationship with my boyfriend.

Though I'm sure I could try more to get out and meet more people, so I will try to do that, you make a good point.

I find that when I do that - interact with different people, including peers who might have relationships that I can observe or be potentials for relationships, but also just friends that are a different kind of relationship - that I can think more clearly and objectively about my own wants and needs (and even things I might be over-thinking when alone). That I feel more whole and balanced and less reactive to another's cues, but rather creating my own cues from within.

It's a "rest period" of sorts that strengthens me to be able to better see and become myself again.
 
An important part of the dating/courting/wooing relationship is for both parties to figure out what is important to them and to their partner...what one can put up with and what one cannot live without.

If you are needing that "romantic" aspect in a relationship...and that is not a "bad" thing nor is it unimportant...and, if it's important to you then it is important. My dad didn't have a romantic bone in his body...but he and mom were married 55 years before his death. My hubby and I have been married for over 14 years, and he's just as romantic today as he ever has been. (For my birthday he gave me a CD he burned of all my favorite love songs.) My dad was a good match for mom, Steve is a good match for me. A guy like dad...no romance...wouldn't be all that great of a match for me.

(a caveat...that goofy warm fuzzy crushing feeling doesn't last all that long in any relationship, but I'm talking more about how a guy makes his woman feel special...some guys are "romantic" in this, other guys more pragmatic but still show they care.)

You two had a long-distance relationship and now have spent some serious "real world" time together and now you describe things as going "seriously downhill" (and yeah, cutting off phone conversations and not calling back...definitely downhill).

My own opinion as someone who just read what you've shared here: Both of you were very much in love with a sort of fantasized version of who you are...but the "real time" you spent with each other has shown that in reality the two of you aren't the match you each thought you were. You've each learned things about the other during the time you had and now things are beginning to cool off with him. He is still saying that he loves you, and I don't doubt that he certainly is as in love with the mental picture he's had of you all this time as you are in love with the mental picture you have had of him.

But, in the real world, he has learned things about you that isn't matching up to the idealized version he's had of you...just as you are learning things about him that are at odds with the "sweet" guy you fell in love with.

None of this is "bad"....he isn't a jerk for being who he is and neither are you...but it doesn't sound as if there is a good match here.

Given the difference in your ages, I can see where he's probably at the stage where he is really fine tooth combing the things he's learned about you that fall short of his ideal...he's further along in life and more apt to seriously consider these things. At 18, your more likely still in a place of "true love conquers all"...

I think a rest period is a very good idea.
 

Hi ForeverYours

At the age of 18, there are many wonderful things you can focus on, besides a relationship. If I were you, I would let things be for the time being, and pick up other equally important things to do:

1. Develop & strengthen your personal relationship with Jesus Christ
2. Have many God-fearing girlfriends in your life, especially those who can encourage and inspire you to grow in your Christian faith
3. Education - Discover what you are good at and enroll in some courses to develop the skills. It's good for your career too.
4. Sports - Identify some sports and regularly involve - tennis, running, etc. Sports is one of the most effective ways to beat depression and boredom.

Believe me, when you are actively involved in the above four things, you will see things clearer too. And when you finally enter into a serious relationship with a man, you will be stronger and more mature, and the relationship will also be strong. That's what I am doing to help my three daughters (eldest is 16) to develop themselves physically, mentally and spiritually.
 
Hi ForeverYours

At the age of 18, there are many wonderful things you can focus on, besides a relationship. If I were you, I would let things be for the time being, and pick up other equally important things to do:

1. Develop & strengthen your personal relationship with Jesus Christ
2. Have many God-fearing girlfriends in your life, especially those who can encourage and inspire you to grow in your Christian faith
3. Education - Discover what you are good at and enroll in some courses to develop the skills. It's good for your career too.
4. Sports - Identify some sports and regularly involve - tennis, running, etc. Sports is one of the most effective ways to beat depression and boredom.

Believe me, when you are actively involved in the above four things, you will see things clearer too. And when you finally enter into a serious relationship with a man, you will be stronger and more mature, and the relationship will also be strong. That's what I am doing to help my three daughters (eldest is 16) to develop themselves physically, mentally and spiritually.


Thank you. sincerely.
 
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