I certainly never said people wrote anything on their own hearts...God's law has been written on our conscience since the beginning. That's what Paul is saying in Romans 1 and 2...Man is without excuse. The verse is not ignored...far from it. Most people understand clearly what Paul is saying. He is not saying we are saved by works.francisdesales said:glorydaz said:You're correct...any 7th grader could read this and see what Paul is saying. Of course, unlike you, he wouldn't start in the middle of the book and hope to know the meaning. Paul is laying out the plan of salvation. It's known as the Roman Road for a reason...you've stopped at a rut in the road and can't see where the road started or ended. You have no idea what Paul is saying because that one verse has blinded you to everything else.
Drew is not "starting in the middle of a book". He is pointing out a verse that is ignored, that happens to be in the middle of a book. That is the point of departure. I think we agree on the meaning of Romans 1, so there is no need to continue arguing about it. Thus, we will focus on where we disagree. That is normal, and it doesn't follow that he randomly chose this verse and ignored everything else.
It would be helpful if you could support your chastising. Drew's explanation makes perfect sense to me and takes into account all of what Paul says on the issue. As I have said before, Romans 1-3 is related, the theme being "no one can come to God alone". Do we agree, that no one can come to God alone? No one can be justified in God's view, whether pagan without God or whether Jew with a law and no Spirit support. following rituals does not justify. Paul's example in Romans 2 states that GOD is providing the Law written on the hearts of pagans, not that the pagan wrote it there!!! (2:15)
Thus, the pagan of 2:6-10 who is justified is done so because of GOD working there! Not the pagan's work alone. This is God's catholicity in action - salvation made available to all men, because God DESIRES all men to be saved.
Thus, God has no partiality, and will judge based upon our Spirit-moved works on earth, not on the faith that can move mountains, but without love...
Regards
Those in Romans 2 are those who are seeking eternal life by persistently doing good...such as Cornelius. Then Paul goes on to say one must be justified by faith. They must go on, as Cornelius did...they must partake of the grace of God and faith in Christ or their sins will not be covered. When one stands before the Judgment seat, all his seeking and good works will be judged and found wanting without the justification by faith through Christ. Paul is showing us people like Cornelius...their hearts have been prepared to receive salvation. They show persistence in entering into the kingdom, so they have been drawn. Paul goes on to say they will be judged on their works....which aren't good enough according to Paul in all of Romans 1 and 2..they must go on and be saved by grace through faith. A believer, on the other hand, is justified by faith and will be rewarded for his obedience. His name is written in the Lamb's book of life based on his justification by faith...not works.