Imagination~ What Does God Say About It?

[Biblereader]

Some people have said the human imagination is beautiful.
Some people feel the human imagination is a great thing, producer of great works of art, literature, and science.

Do you know what GOD says about imagination, and imaginings?


First, we should TEST everything, by the Word of God. Does this product of man’s imagination glorify God?
Is it in line with the Bible? Read Isaiah : 20: To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Hmmm….if a product of man or woman’s imagination has no light in it, nothing Godly, then it is to be rejected.
Yes, this narrows down our selection of things we do to amuse ourselves, it narrows down activities we participate in,
but, Jesus says, in Matthew:
13: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Do you think God says in vain: 3: I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
4: A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person.
5: Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer.

Some of you MIGHT say, what about the “scientific†advances we have?
Yes, some of them are great, but, look what man’s imagination has done, with science:
http://prolife.org.uk/abhorrent-aborted ... sue-used...

http://www.rythospital.com/clyven/

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.
1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

What about movies? Has man’s imagination produced much of any good, from Hollywood?
What about television? Has the imagination of man improved television?
There is more violence, killing, torture, adultery, fornication, lust, and perversion available to you FROM the television
industry, now, than ever before in history.
Well, what does GOD say about imagining, and imagination?
God is who we serve, right?
Therefore, if you SAY you are a Christian, your life should be one of holiness and purity, not one that habitually subscribes to sin.

WHAT JESUS SAYS, IN HIS HOLY BIBLE, THE KJV, ABOUT IMAGINATION:
(I emphasized KJV, because if you read from other versions, you aren't getting the whole Gospel, nor are you getting
the true Gospel) Here's what the bible really says about imagination:
Genesis 6:5-5: And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Deuteronomy 29:19: And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
20: The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

Jeremiah 3:17: At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Jeremiah 7:23: But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
24: But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

Jer. 11: 8: Yet they obeyed not, nor inclined their ear, but walked every one in the imagination of their evil heart: therefore I will bring upon them all the words of this covenant, which I commanded them to do; but they did them not.

You might be saying, this says mostly an EVIL heart. Doesn’t man have a good heart?
WHAT DOES GOD SAY?
Jer. 9: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10: I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Notice this is from Jeremiah, the weeping prophet.
Why do you think he wept?

16: These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18: An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19: A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

By the way, many times, a lost person will try to sow discord, among the brethren, and, a saved person will be hated, and wrongfully
accused, by those
who are lost in their trespasses and sins, when they speak up and out against sin.

What else does God say about IMAGINATION?
Well, here’s what God says about FALSE prophets:
16: Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
17: They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

Beware if a preacher, pastor, priest, bible teacher, or Christian continually emphasizes peace, peace. Always remember, there is more to God’s Word, than sweetness and light,
and love, love, love. Love is good, and Godly, but to emphasize ONE aspect of the Gospel,
and leave out the other parts, well, do you think that’s right?

What else does Jesus say about IMAGINATION?

Romans 1:21: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Luke 1:51: He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.

2 Cor. 10: 4: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5: Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6: And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Christians, do you bring into captivity EVERY one of your thoughts, to the obedience
of Christ?
Try it. Try measuring your thought life up against the Bible.
Bring all your thoughts to Jesus. If your thoughts are sinful, repent.
After you repent, turn away from the sins.

Acts: 24: And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
25: Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
26: The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

Imagination– that’s what God says about it.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

Was this a copy paste job?

 

[jasoncran]

Bible reader, is the human brain and its use evil? Or the heart that is in the man who imagaines evil?

 

[GodspromisesRyes]

this is a great thread, and funny because just a day or two ago i was laying in bed contemplating on making THIS THREAD

Imagination has been a big thing in my walk with the Lord.I wont go into all the hows and whys, but i had learned to take every thought into captivity and cast down imaginations and boy that is a powerful weapon! BUT i began to find more and more as time went on and trials got larger than just doing that was not enough anymore and i didnt know why in the active battle doing this i was still lacking something. Then the Lord revealed to me what the problem was. I was always filling myself with the word of God which was good, but in an actual moment when I would take my thoughts into captivity and cast down vain imaginations, i was not in that moment REPLACING THEM with the word of God and FAITH in GOD towards the opposite of what that temptation or wicked thought was and that was what i needed to do.

For an example, when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, He did not just cast down that temptation and say NO thats against the word.- and leave it at that. No, He casted down the temptation using the word of God more perfectly to replace it.

The imaginations of mens minds are wicked continually, and when we first begin to pay attention to our thoughts to take them into captivity we may be utterly shocked at what our minds rambles on with all day long and how truly wicked and outside of faith it is.

Our imaginations SHOULD be used, but they should be used in FAITH, imagining in our minds the Glory and holiness of God- His faithfulness, His willingness and ability to do all His will, His provisions for us in every way in every trial etc... Because just getting rid of the extremly wicked thoughts is not enough- VAIN thoughts are evil too.

 

[Biblereader]

Was this a copy paste job?

Would YOU like to type all the bible verses?
IF so, I have a job for you. No pay, just type for me, for free.

 

[Biblereader]

I appreciate your response. That's an excellent point, to replace the evil imaginings with Scripture.
Now, how well have you memorized enough Scripture, to be able to utilize it, on a day to day basis?
I would like to know what method you use, to keep it all in your heart.
Yes, Jesus responded with the Living Word, when tempted. That's the only way to fight and win.

when we first begin to pay attention to our thoughts to take them into captivity we may be utterly shocked at what our minds rambles on with all day long and how truly wicked and outside of faith it is.

Exactly one of the reasons for this. I wish more people would pay attention to what they think, and see what is in their heart. There's always room for improvement. We are to be HOLY, in thought, word, and deed. If we have holy hearts, then there is no room for sin to grow. We choke sin out. Rather than let sin choke out the goodness of Scripture.

this is a great thread, and funny because just a day or two ago i was laying in bed contemplating on making THIS THREAD

If you have more to add to it, please do. :yes

imagining in our minds the Glory and holiness of God- His faithfulness, His willingness and ability to do all His will, His provisions for us in every way in every trial etc.

I dare say we aren't familiar enough with habitually praising God, and singing psalms and spiritual songs to Him, keeping Him first, resisting the devil, and doing good , instead.
The world is getting darker and darker, spiritually, people are not careful about what they say, and they think we're weird for not joining them in their wicked ways.

this is a great thread, and funny because just a day or two ago i was laying in bed contemplating on making THIS THREAD

Imagination has been a big thing in my walk with the Lord.I wont go into all the hows and whys, but i had learned to take every thought into captivity and cast down imaginations and boy that is a powerful weapon! BUT i began to find more and more as time went on and trials got larger than just doing that was not enough anymore and i didnt know why in the active battle doing this i was still lacking something. Then the Lord revealed to me what the problem was. I was always filling myself with the word of God which was good, but in an actual moment when I would take my thoughts into captivity and cast down vain imaginations, i was not in that moment REPLACING THEM with the word of God and FAITH in GOD towards the opposite of what that temptation or wicked thought was and that was what i needed to do.

For an example, when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, He did not just cast down that temptation and say NO thats against the word.- and leave it at that. No, He casted down the temptation using the word of God more perfectly to replace it.

The imaginations of mens minds are wicked continually, and when we first begin to pay attention to our thoughts to take them into captivity we may be utterly shocked at what our minds rambles on with all day long and how truly wicked and outside of faith it is.

Our imaginations SHOULD be used, but they should be used in FAITH, imagining in our minds the Glory and holiness of God- His faithfulness, His willingness and ability to do all His will, His provisions for us in every way in every trial etc... Because just getting rid of the extremly wicked thoughts is not enough- VAIN thoughts are evil too.

 

[Biblereader]

Bible reader, is the human brain and its use evil? Or the heart that is in the man who imagaines evil?

The human brain is born into sin. Already corrupted due to the first Adam.
From the mind, eyes, ears, hands, and all senses, come wickedness. Anything unpleasing to God.
We are born with the ability to sin. To lie, cheat, steal, gossip, hurt, destroy, all that and more.
We are born self centered. We keep on being that way, unless we ask Jesus to save us, and are born again.

Self centeredness, by the way, is the main thrust of psychology. Psychology was invented by anti-Christian men, men who did not like to retain God in their knowledge, in their minds. They did not like what God said about how to solve problems, so, they invented their own answers, with vain imaginings.
Psychology has solved nothing. It linked with psychiatry, and said, take these mood/mind altering drugs, and you will be better. quick fix, or no fix, or temporary fixes.
I saw a commercial on tv yesterday, which said they are looking for volunteers to test a new
anti depressant, but the participants must be between the ages of SEVEN and 19!

Instead of bringing our thoughts to JESUS< and letting His Word solve them, we are DRUGGING CHILDREN! And, we now have MILLIONS of adults on antidepressants, etc. and I'd dare say only
1 percent of them actually need it.
Another example of evil imaginings.

What do you say?

 

[Caroline H]

WHAT JESUS SAYS, IN HIS HOLY BIBLE, THE KJV, ABOUT IMAGINATION:
(I emphasized KJV, because if you read from other versions, you aren't getting the whole Gospel, nor are you getting
the true Gospel)

Well, not to change the topic, but you probably just turned off half of your audience right there.

 

[WWJD2010]

Thank you for this post!!! Very informative and right on time!!!

 

[Aero_Hudson]

What is it with these thread lately?

Let's boil it down to its essence and get to the point shall we? Biblereader...what is your point in 4 sentences or less?

 

[Sound Silence]

WHAT JESUS SAYS, IN HIS HOLY BIBLE, THE KJV, ABOUT IMAGINATION:
(I emphasized KJV, because if you read from other versions, you aren't getting the whole Gospel, nor are you getting
the true Gospel)

The KJV is a ridiculously flawed translation, and your blind allegiance to it disinclines me to consider the rest of your ramblings.

Do you think everyone in the world should learn English so they can read the KJV, then?

 

[WWJD2010]

I enjoy reading and studying the KJV for the first time in my life. Why all the hostility about KJV? I don't like to entertain anger and strife so I will move on from this thread. May God give 2 of you people a calmer attitude in the name of Jesus Christ, because strife is NOT of God. I'm disappointed as a new member here to see this angry behavior over a Bible and someone sincerely typing their little heart out sharing their positive view.

Father God please please please help us in the mighty name of Jesus Christ to love one another. Amen.

 

[Sound Silence]

I enjoy reading and studying the KJV for the first time in my life. Why all the hostility about KJV?

Because it's a bad translation, and more recent translations of the original scriptures are more accurate, especially since they reflect modern english, and not archaic english. If English had no translation of the Bible, we would not translate it into the English used several hundred years ago, we would translate into current English.

I also have the hostility because people say it's the ONLY translation that is good, for no reason other than they were raised on it as kids (which makes absolutely no sense).

When someone makes errant comments like that, I'm not going to sit back and "get along" with them for the sake of peace.

I don't like to entertain anger and strife so I will move on from this thread. May God give you people a calmer attitude in the name of Jesus Christ, because strife is NOT of God. I'm disappointed as a new member here to see this angry behavior over a Bible and someone sincerely typing their little heart out sharing their positive view.

Father God please please please help us in the mighty name of Jesus Christ to love one another. Amen.

Too bad for you anger and strife against the world is a major part of Christianity, then.

 

[WWJD2010]

I enjoy reading and studying the KJV for the first time in my life. Why all the hostility about KJV?

Because it's a bad translation, and more recent translations of the original scriptures are more accurate, especially since they reflect modern english, and not archaic english. If English had no translation of the Bible, we would not translate it into the English used several hundred years ago, we would translate into current English.

I also have the hostility because people say it's the ONLY translation that is good, for no reason other than they were raised on it as kids (which makes absolutely no sense).

When someone makes errant comments like that, I'm not going to sit back and "get along" with them for the sake of peace.

I don't like to entertain anger and strife so I will move on from this thread. May God give you people a calmer attitude in the name of Jesus Christ, because strife is NOT of God. I'm disappointed as a new member here to see this angry behavior over a Bible and someone sincerely typing their little heart out sharing their positive view.

Father God please please please help us in the mighty name of Jesus Christ to love one another. Amen.

Too bad for you anger and strife against the world is a major part of Christianity, then.

Oh okay, so someone state that KJV is the only translation that is good. I didn't see that, but as a person who had serious serious serious anger issues to the point of where I did prison time and a whole year in the hole in prison because of my anger--IT GETS YOU KNOW WHERE QUICK AND ITS A VICE THE DEVIL USES AGAINST US TO USE US FOR HIS WILL, NOT GOD'S. Getting all bent outta shape is ridiculous--can't you see and feel the unnaturalness of that? Please for your sake calm down please brother please. I just said a prayer for you for the Lord our God in the name of Jesus Christ to deliver you from your anger.

Let me leave you with some food for thought in Scripture, because it is a sin to argue, in particular amongst brethren.

2 Timothy 2:14 says: Remind [the people] of these facts and [solemnly] charge them in the presence of the Lord to avoid petty controversy over words, which does no good but upsets and undermines the faith of the hearers.

Proverbs 25:8 says: Rush not forth soon to quarrel [before magistrates or elsewhere], lest you know not what to do in the end when your neighbor has put you to shame.

Titus 3:9 says it BEST: But avoid stupid and foolish controversies and genealogies and dissensions and wrangling about the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile.

So, if you want to argue please take it up with God and His Word the Holy Bible.

 

[Nick]

Perhaps we could return to the topic at hand please? (which is, in case people have forgotten about God and the immagination).

 

[jasoncran]

Bible reader, is the human brain and its use evil? Or the heart that is in the man who imagaines evil?

The human brain is born into sin. Already corrupted due to the first Adam.
From the mind, eyes, ears, hands, and all senses, come wickedness. Anything unpleasing to God.
We are born with the ability to sin. To lie, cheat, steal, gossip, hurt, destroy, all that and more.
We are born self centered. We keep on being that way, unless we ask Jesus to save us, and are born again.

Self centeredness, by the way, is the main thrust of psychology. Psychology was invented by anti-Christian men, men who did not like to retain God in their knowledge, in their minds. They did not like what God said about how to solve problems, so, they invented their own answers, with vain imaginings.
Psychology has solved nothing. It linked with psychiatry, and said, take these mood/mind altering drugs, and you will be better. quick fix, or no fix, or temporary fixes.
I saw a commercial on tv yesterday, which said they are looking for volunteers to test a new
anti depressant, but the participants must be between the ages of SEVEN and 19!

Instead of bringing our thoughts to JESUS< and letting His Word solve them, we are DRUGGING CHILDREN! And, we now have MILLIONS of adults on antidepressants, etc. and I'd dare say only
1 percent of them actually need it.
Another example of evil imaginings.

What do you say?

let's not go there too much as you dont know much about bi-polar and no diet will fix that. The same drugs that are used for epilispy and or depression and some bi-polars. Are epilitetics faking that as well.
I have a lot of issues with pyschology, but i do some good pyschologists that are believers and use the word as well as meds. Ever Heard of the man Dr. James Dobson phd psychology?Runs famous ministry
Focus on the Family, sound familiar?

 

[jasoncran]

The mind itself can be redeemed that is what i meant. I have two relatives that are epileptic and my wife has bi-polar. It(psychology) has its uses and it can be like anything corrupted, just like a regular md can kill with his knowledge(abortion) or save lives. It how it used and the person using the tool(psychology) and at time those things will clash and i will take the word over what a doc says. I have been told and seen some give ungodly advice.

 

[Biblereader]

WHAT JESUS SAYS, IN HIS HOLY BIBLE, THE KJV, ABOUT IMAGINATION:
(I emphasized KJV, because if you read from other versions, you aren't getting the whole Gospel, nor are you getting
the true Gospel)

Well, not to change the topic, but you probably just turned off half of your audience right there.

OH well. Do you know much about the diff btwn Alexandrian and Antiochian texts?
If you did, you would not be turned off by the KJV.

 

[Biblereader]

The mind itself can be redeemed that is what i meant. I have two relatives that are epileptic and my wife has bi-polar. It(psychology) has its uses and it can be like anything corrupted, just like a regular md can kill with his knowledge(abortion) or save lives. It how it used and the person using the tool(psychology) and at time those things will clash and i will take the word over what a doc says. I have been told and seen some give ungodly advice.

please, please educate me on what bi polar mental illness is. Why is it supposedly only treated with drugs?
I heard bi polar was like obsessive compulsive, where when there is the high, the person spends wildly, or drinks, does drugs, is sexually wild, anything compulsively. ANd, that action happens to give the bi polar an emotional RELEASE of something.
The depression is also due to the bi polar's outlook, they convince themselves that life is now just a dreary, sad nothing.

I'm glad to hear you will take the Word, over what the doctor says.
What ungodly advice have you seen/been given?

 

[Biblereader]

Are epilitetics faking that as well.

I didn't say they were faking anything. Do you know what JESUS says about epilepsy?
14: And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,
15: Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.
16: And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17: Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
18: And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
19: Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
20: And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21: Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Bible reader, is the human brain and its use evil? Or the heart that is in the man who imagaines evil?

The human brain is born into sin. Already corrupted due to the first Adam.
From the mind, eyes, ears, hands, and all senses, come wickedness. Anything unpleasing to God.
We are born with the ability to sin. To lie, cheat, steal, gossip, hurt, destroy, all that and more.
We are born self centered. We keep on being that way, unless we ask Jesus to save us, and are born again.

Self centeredness, by the way, is the main thrust of psychology. Psychology was invented by anti-Christian men, men who did not like to retain God in their knowledge, in their minds. They did not like what God said about how to solve problems, so, they invented their own answers, with vain imaginings.
Psychology has solved nothing. It linked with psychiatry, and said, take these mood/mind altering drugs, and you will be better. quick fix, or no fix, or temporary fixes.
I saw a commercial on tv yesterday, which said they are looking for volunteers to test a new
anti depressant, but the participants must be between the ages of SEVEN and 19!

Instead of bringing our thoughts to JESUS< and letting His Word solve them, we are DRUGGING CHILDREN! And, we now have MILLIONS of adults on antidepressants, etc. and I'd dare say only
1 percent of them actually need it.
Another example of evil imaginings.

What do you say?

let's not go there too much as you dont know much about bi-polar and no diet will fix that. The same drugs that are used for epilispy and or depression and some bi-polars. Are epilitetics faking that as well.
I have a lot of issues with pyschology, but i do some good pyschologists that are believers and use the word as well as meds. Ever Heard of the man Dr. James Dobson phd psychology?Runs famous ministry
Focus on the Family, sound familiar?