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Michael74 said:
The smell is a good safety precaution.

R-410A has been used since 2010, but they are working on alternatives. They fear R-410A may be implicated in global warming, and it may eventually be phased out too. It doesn't deplete the ozone layer like Freon, so there is not as much urgency. For now.
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Cfc 12 ,r410 aka puron,and r134 are greenhouse gases.thr most efficient gases for cooling homes are propane and the toxic ammonia.which is used in ice houses. .
 
kiwidan said:
I want to work when I feel like working, not when time tells me. The biggest pest in life is my alarm clock.
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People with some valuable skill can often work when they want to. Self employed or as a consultant. Construction or maintenance contractors will hire people for specific jobs. People have to show up until a job is completed, but they can take off for a few months per year in between jobs if they want to. Teachers get a vacation during the summer.

Regular worker bees usually have to put in 40 hours per week regularly.
 
jasonc said:
Cfc 12 ,r410 aka puron,and r134 are greenhouse gases.thr most efficient gases for cooling homes are propane and the toxic ammonia.which is used in ice houses. .
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Ammonia isn't used in homes. Propane (R290) is one of the contenders to replace R410A for residential applications. It is currently vying with several others, with the outcome for a new standard not yet certain.
 
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Michael74 said:
Ammonia isn't used in homes. Propane (R290) is one of the contenders to replace R410A for residential applications. It is currently vying with several others, with the outcome for a new standard not yet certain.
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Old homes have that.propane is nothing new go
Michael74 said:
Ammonia isn't used in homes. Propane (R290) is one of the contenders to replace R410A for residential applications. It is currently vying with several others, with the outcome for a new standard not yet certain.
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http://ammonia21.com/articles/7700/ammonia_in_hvac_time_to_use_your_imagination

I have been to a church that had a window shaker that used ammonia .60s era ac.it froze you.
 
If they can solve the safety issues, NH3 might be adopted as the new standard. Probably not though. Home systems are not always maintained the way commercial coolers are. Regulators generally want to keep them as foolproof as practical.
 
The Truth.

Muslim Jihadist went on killing spree in Manchester stabbing 3 people on New year's while shouting "Allah Akbur Long live the Caliphate" as he tries to earn his virgins from the cosmic sex trafficker they worship.

"Police have not yet provided a motive for the stabbings. A witness said the suspect shouted Islamic slogans".

The suspect shouted Islamic slogans so I guess it's nothing to do with Islam.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/...-years-eve-attack-at-manchester-train-station
 
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jasonc said:
I have been to a church that had a window shaker that used ammonia .60s era ac.it froze you.
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This is not a purely academic issue. People had Freon systems installed in accordance with the old standard. The standard was changed. Then Freon to service legacy systems became scarce and costly. Now an entire new generation of R-410A systems have been installed in accordance with the new standard, and now R-410A is being banned. What type of system is a shopper to choose? Its just chaos. If they don't guess right, will what they have chosen be banned too? What happens if someone chooses an ammonia home system, and ammonia systems are made illegal like Freon was? Will they be able to get their ammonia system serviced at a reasonable price? For how long?

Would you really advise someone to get an ammonia home system?
 
kiwidan said:
The Truth.

Muslim Jihadist went on killing spree in Manchester stabbing 3 people on New year's while shouting "Allah Akbur Long live the Caliphate" as he tries to earn his virgins from the cosmic sex trafficker they worship.

"Police have not yet provided a motive for the stabbings. A witness said the suspect shouted Islamic slogans".

The suspect shouted Islamic slogans so I guess it's nothing to do with Islam.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/...-years-eve-attack-at-manchester-train-station
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One of the three was a policeman, he has been discharged from hospital, the other two are in hospital with more serious wounds.
The suspect has now been charged under the mental health law. (I live in Manchester).
 
Tessa said:
One of the three was a policeman, he has been discharged from hospital, the other two are in hospital with more serious wounds.
The suspect has now been charged under the mental health law. (I live in Manchester).
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So when someone flips out in the name of Islam and goes on a killing spree it's mental health?.
 
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Michael74 said:
This is not a purely academic issue. People had Freon systems installed in accordance with the old standard. The standard was changed. Then Freon to service legacy systems became scarce and costly. Now an entire new generation of R-410A systems have been installed in accordance with the new standard, and now R-410A is being banned. What type of system is a shopper to choose? Its just chaos. If they don't guess right, will what they have chosen be banned too? What happens if someone chooses an ammonia home system, and ammonia systems are made illegal like Freon was? Will they be able to get their ammonia system serviced at a reasonable price? For how long?

Would you really advise someone to get an ammonia home system?
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That's a risk, with puron,my home had r22,now its puron, simply they can yank it all.they pulled alm the lines in my house.took one day .

S.er.e codes here require a better system they re use nothing. Minimum is 14 ,
 
kiwidan said:
So when someone flips out in the name of Islam and goes on a killing spree it's not terrorism but mental health?.

Its obviously not religiously (Islam) and politically (sharia) motivated. Jihadists must just flip out for fun, no motive or anything just mentally unwell.
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I can't understand it either Dan . Never heard it done before.
 
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