Incapable churches

[Nocturnal_Principal_X]

It is obvious to me my threads are intimidating to them. I don't talk like conventional churchgoers. I don't follow their traditonal way of talking. I believe they have convenient way of avoiding the problems. That's why they don't like my way of talk because I make everything clear and simple so I can make them understand what I am talking about. I don't beat around the bush. Most people want to avoid the realty and the truth. I don't cooperate with this kind of nonsense.

Ok, so what would you suggest should be done? Oh that was one of my original questions, which you uh did not read evidently.

 

[Heidi]

Noc,

I remember everything that you have told me. I have been to many forums and I got all kinds of harassment from many posters and mods. This is not the only furum I joined.

It is obvious to me my threads are intimidating to them. I don't talk like conventional churchgoers. I don't follow their traditonal way of talking. I believe they have convenient way of avoiding the problems. That's why they don't like my way of talk because I make everything clear and simple so I can make them understand what I am talking about. I don't beat around the bush. Most people want to avoid the realty and the truth. I don't cooperate with this kind of nonsense.

Neither do I. But I have found that very few church-goers have read the bible. They just listen to the pastors and believe everything the pastor tells them.

 

[gingercat]

It is obvious to me my threads are intimidating to them. I don't talk like conventional churchgoers. I don't follow their traditonal way of talking. I believe they have convenient way of avoiding the problems. That's why they don't like my way of talk because I make everything clear and simple so I can make them understand what I am talking about. I don't beat around the bush. Most people want to avoid the realty and the truth. I don't cooperate with this kind of nonsense.

Ok, so what would you suggest should be done? Oh that was one of my original questions, which you uh did not read evidently.

Noc,

The churches did not want my input. They know the problems and they dont want to focus on them because people just dont want to follow Jesus' teachings and dont want to be His servants. Most of them are pretenders. The churches are just accomodating their feelings and desires.

Why do you suggest getting involved with churches uninterested in following Him truthfully?

I can suggest many things to improve but they are not interested. They can figure out for themselves if they are interested. They are not as dumb as you think.

 

[Johny]

gingercat, all you have said so far is that you have a lot fruit and Church is bad. This is without proper scripture or any proof. That's probably why some people here have a hard time beleiving you.

 

[gingercat]

gingercat, all you have said so far is that you have a lot fruit and Church is bad. This is without proper scripture or any proof. That's probably why some people here have a hard time beleiving you.

Johny,

I have been encourageing you to read the New Testament and strive to obey everything what Jesus teaches. Look what kind of reaction I have been getting from you. I have been encourageing young and new believers and they dont like it. This kind of reaction is just tipycal. Most of the churchgoers are just like you. They are not interested in following and obey Jesus' teachings. Most of them are spoiled by their churches. I am just showing you what it takes to follow Jesus. You should never give anyone advice or accusation unless you have been following Him with all your might. It is is also in the Bible.

You are young and cannot see your own plank of your own eye.

Matt 7:5 "..first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye"

This vease means first commit to Him and serve Him with all your might then you can give others advice. Do you realize you have been giving me advice? Do you know how old I am? I believe I am as old as your grandmother.

 

[thessalonian]

Johny,

I have been encourageing you to read the New Testament and strive to obey everything what Jesus teaches. Look what kind of reaction I have been getting from you. I have been encourageing young and new believers and they dont like it. This kind of reaction is just tipycal. Most of the churchgoers are just like you. They are not interested in following and obey Jesus' teachings. Most of them are spoiled by their churches. I am just showing you what it takes to follow Jesus. You should never give anyone advice or accusation unless you have been following Him with all your might. It is is also in the Bible.

Yes Johnny read the NT. Yes, strive to obey everything that Jesus teaches and you might try Paul as well who says do not neglect the assemble. GC ignores that passage. She also ignores the FACT the Christ Church is a body of believers (romans 12, 1 Cor 12) who NEED eachother and who are to come together in communion. Make sure you don't "trust in your own understanding" as GC does either. She is also very judgemental about people who go to Church. More broadbrushing "They are not interesting in following and obey (I would include an ing at the end of that, but that's just me) Jesus' teachings". Wow. Are you out to lunch on this one.

You are young and cannot see your own plank of your own eye.

Ginger are you a sinner. You never answer that question. Shall I quote what John says about those who will not admit their own sin? Paul admitted sin. So was he not ready to give advice even though he was out and about preaching. YOUR A SINNER GINGER AND A LIAR IF YOU CAN'T admit it. John's words, not mine. "Anyone who says he has no sin is a LIAR" 1 john 1. How about being convicted by a passage yourself ginger.

the vease means first commit to Him and serve Him with all your might then you can give others advice. Do you realize you have been giving me advice? Do you know how old I am? I believe I am as old as your grandmother.

Your not as old as mine and your not anywhere near ready to give advice. That is apparent. You've apparently not listened to any.

 

[gingercat]

Your not as old as mine and your not anywhere near ready to give advice. That is apparent. You've apparently not listened to any.

I am old enough to speak up aginast who are misrepresenting Jesus, dear :wink:

 

[thessalonian]

Your not as old as mine and your not anywhere near ready to give advice. That is apparent. You've apparently not listened to any.

I am old enough to speak up aginast who are misrepresenting Jesus, dear :wink:

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God bless you

 

[Johny]

My grandmother is 83 years old, are you really that old?

I haven't given you any advice, I'm just trying to show you that you're against the Church for no apparent reason and without any scripture. You still haven't provided any that is against Church, maybe because there isn't any? Also, age has nothing to do with anything, how could you think this? I guess that young Theologians, Preists, Pastors have no clue of what they're talking about because of their age.

Also, couldn't Matthew 7:5 apply to you also? Look at verse 1, are you not judging, are you not the one with the plank in your eye?

 

[WMD]

I dont know how many people in here frequent other message boards on the internet, but I like to linger in a lot of them. What we have here is very common in some of the boards I read.

It is called a troll. Where the name came from I dont know, but what a troll does is post a ridiculous message such as the one that gingercat has done. The message is so ridiculous that it brings reply after reply either arguing a point or just trying to figure out what the troll is talking about.

Gingercat is faking like he is frustrated with us but we have all played right into his hands.

Trolls don't seem to be as common on this board because most of the posters are mature, but as for me I think this thread should be locked or everyone should move on to the next one. Gingercat will move on once we start ignoring him.

 

[Johny]

It's important to understand the difference between going to Church and following Church doctrine. Many people who go to Church don't necessarily agree with everything concerning doctrine. The act of going to Church to praise our God is in no way bad.


From the last two times since I've started going to Church again, I witnessed nothing during the mass that was contrary to the Bible. In fact, the priest never forced anything on anyone.

 

[gingercat]

Also, couldn't Matthew 7:5 apply to you also? Look at verse 1, are you not judging, are you not the one with the plank in your eye?

Good day Johny, we have nothing in common.

 

[gingercat]

I dont know how many people in here frequent other message boards on the internet, but I like to linger in a lot of them. What we have here is very common in some of the boards I read.

It is called a troll. Where the name came from I dont know, but what a troll does is post a ridiculous message such as the one that gingercat has done. The message is so ridiculous that it brings reply after reply either arguing a point or just trying to figure out what the troll is talking about.

Gingercat is faking like he is frustrated with us but we have all played right into his hands.

Trolls don't seem to be as common on this board because most of the posters are mature, but as for me I think this thread should be locked or everyone should move on to the next one. Gingercat will move on once we start ignoring him.

This is a typical hate-filled post I get every once in a while. I am sorry I am not here to please you. I am not a conventional poster. I will keep on speaking up about what I have to.

 

[Johny]

I'm not trying to attack you ginger, but you persistently engage in attacking others on the forum. Then when someone stands up to you, you run. Why is this?

Are you not judging? Read the chapter and explain how this applies to me and not you.

 

[TruthMiner]

So then we should all encourage the JWs to make sure they attend their church?

 

[gingercat]

I'm not trying to attack you ginger, but you persistently engage in attacking others on the forum. Then when someone stands up to you, you run. Why is this?

Are you not judging? Read the chapter and explain how this applies to me and not you.

I have been responding to you and giving you my reply and you are not accepting it. why are you harassing me now?

You will be on my ignore list if you keep this up. If you judge me as judgemental that's just fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of others. I am not stopping you and cannot stop you.

We are here to express our opinions, not to try to change everyone else who doesnt agree with us. Just because you dont agree with me do I have change so I can make you feel better?

We have talked more than enough. Just let it go OK?

BTW, I am 57 years old; how old are you? I think you said you are only 16. You have a lot of nerve to be harassing me.

How sad your church dont teach to respect older people.

 

[Nocturnal_Principal_X]

It is rather interesting, gingercat, that every time someone disagrees with you, or certain points you make, and tries to ask you some simple questions you say they are harassing you.

Johny, you make some good and interesting points. Keep challenging people, and continue to be bold for the Lord.

 

[destiny]

Ginger, Heres a list of the fruit of the spirit. I usually fail to produce those fruits at one point or another in my life, especially in dealing with people.
Do you feel that when you are communicating with people on this forum that you are showing all these fruits? YES or NO?

love;
joy;
peace;
patience;
kindness;
goodness;
faithfulness;
gentleness;
self-control.

 

[gingercat]

It is rather interesting, gingercat, that every time someone disagrees with you, or certain points you make, and tries to ask you some simple questions you say they are harassing you.

Johny, you make some good and interesting points. Keep challenging people, and continue to be bold for the Lord.

Noc,

I understand you dont like me but do you have to encourage others to harass me? I already responded to him and he just doesnt like it. Take a look at what we have been doing.

Why do I have to compromize my views to conventional opinions? Now If you have to challenge me why dont you do it instead of pitting someone against me. What you are doing is dispicable Noc.

 

[gingercat]

Ginger, Heres a list of the fruit of the spirit. I usually fail to produce those fruits at one point or another in my life, especially in dealing with people.
Do you feel that when you are communicating with people on this forum that you are showing all these fruits? YES or NO?

love;
joy;
peace;
patience;
kindness;
goodness;
faithfulness;
gentleness;
self-control.

I am doing my best, thanks for your concern, good day now.