INDIVIDUALS VS THE MAJORITY

[JLGJLG]

- Now this verse is quite interesting because it is not only the fact it was forbidden for them to eat the fruit but they could not touch it !

- God was the creator and he would not tolerate any discussion of his authority!

- Man could do everything except one!

- THE PRICE FOR IT: DEATH!

- Since then the devil and man have discussed God’s authority!

- When Jesus comes back as a warrior, he will put an end to this discussion!

- Then no one will be authorized to put in question God’s authority!

- Well, only one more time!

- But that’s another story!

 

[gordon777]

That is why we have an upgraded understanding and knowledge of Christ, to not hear the ordinances of man to, touch not, taste not, handle not.

All commandments and considerations of man are to perish.


Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.



We are not come to the mount that might be touched and we die by touching...


Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:




But we are come to Jesus Christ, who we looked upon and our hands have handled, of the word of life..




Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;




Now we do not touch what is unclean to us ( forbidden by God) instead our only focus is Christ.



2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

 

[JLGJLG]

4) But for the devil it was not sufficient!

- He accuses God of being a liar!

- NO YOU WON’T DIE!

- But they died!

- And it has not changed!

- We still hear the same message from religion!

- NO YOU WON’T DIE!

- BUT IT DOES NOT COME FROM GOD!

- GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR!

 

[JLGJLG]

- Now this verse is quite interesting because it is not only the fact it was forbidden for them to eat the fruit but they could not touch it !

- God was the creator and he would not tolerate any discussion of his authority!

- Man could do everything except one!

- THE PRICE FOR IT: DEATH!

- Since then the devil and man have discussed God’s authority!

- When Jesus comes back as a warrior, he will put an end to this discussion!

- Then no one will be authorized to put in question God’s authority!

- Well, only one more time!

- But that’s another story!

Biblehub Genesis 3:4

Hebrew
“You will not
לֹֽא־ (lō-)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

surely
מ֖וֹת (mō·wṯ)
Verb - Qal - Infinitive absolute
Strong's 4191: To die, to kill

die,”
תְּמֻתֽוּן׃ (tə·mu·ṯūn)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - second person masculine plural | Paragogic nun
Strong's 4191: To die, to kill

the serpent
הַנָּחָ֖שׁ (han·nā·ḥāš)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5175: A serpent

told
וַיֹּ֥אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

[her].
הָֽאִשָּׁ֑ה (hā·’iš·šāh)
Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

 

[JLGJLG]

- But for the devil it wasn’ t sufficient!

- He wanted Eve to believe she could become like God!

- And it is not different today!

- The devil tries to make man believe he can be like God!

- But when we look at our poor human society, we are only away from God and in big troubles and we are looking for more and more big troubles!

- MAN NEVER UNDERSTANDS!

 

[gordon777]

All in Adam were already dead, whether they took from the tree or not, no life was in them. Inside Adams body and soul was only death, even the children he could have which were already in him were dead while Adam was alive on earth.

life then is known and proven to be only in Jesus Christ, as testified..




John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 

[gordon777]

The words were to become as gods, not God.


Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.



Adam and Eve never did get to discern good and evil, that comes only with Jesus Christ..



Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[JLGJLG]

- But for the devil it wasn’ t sufficient!

- He wanted Eve to believe she could become like God!

- And it is not different today!

- The devil tries to make man believe he can be like God!

- But when we look at our poor human society, we are only away from God and in big troubles and we are looking for more and more big troubles!

- MAN NEVER UNDERSTANDS!

Biblehub Genesis 3:5

Hebrew
“For
כִּ֚י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

God
אֱלֹהִ֔ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

knows
יֹדֵ֣עַ (yō·ḏê·a‘)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 3045: To know

that
כִּ֗י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

in the day
בְּיוֹם֙ (bə·yō·wm)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3117: A day

you eat
אֲכָלְכֶ֣ם (’ă·ḵā·lə·ḵem)
Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct | second person masculine plural
Strong's 398: To eat

of it,
מִמֶּ֔נּוּ (mim·men·nū)
Preposition | third person masculine singular
Strong's 4480: A part of, from, out of

your eyes
עֵֽינֵיכֶ֑ם (‘ê·nê·ḵem)
Noun - cdc | second person masculine plural
Strong's 5869: An eye, a fountain

will be
וִהְיִיתֶם֙ (wih·yî·ṯem)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - second person masculine plural
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

opened
וְנִפְקְח֖וּ (wə·nip̄·qə·ḥū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Nifal - Conjunctive perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 6491: To open, to be observant

and you will be like God,
כֵּֽאלֹהִ֔ים (kê·lō·hîm)
Preposition-k | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

knowing
יֹדְעֵ֖י (yō·ḏə·‘ê)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct
Strong's 3045: To know

good
ט֥וֹב (ṭō·wḇ)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 2896: Pleasant, agreeable, good

and evil.”
וָרָֽע׃ (wā·rā‘)
Conjunctive waw | Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 7451: Bad, evil

 

[gordon777]

To be as gods, knowing good and evil, doing good and evil, but not as a creator, as all was created already by Jesus Christ ( the only true GOD.)




Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Isaiah 41:23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.


Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

 

[gordon777]

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

 

[gordon777]

Eve did not think, oh I can be God now.

Eve, as written, saw that the tree can make her wise ( knowing good and evil as gods, but not creating as being God)



Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

 

[gordon777]

I am glad I could straighten everything out for you today.

 

[JLGJLG]

5) Then Eve uses her free will:

- She starts looking at the fruit!

- As something good to eat!

- As something good to see!

- As something desirable to get wisdom or to decide by herself and go away from God!

- It’s a process!

- It takes time!

- It must reach maturity!

- It is the same way when we know something is wrong!

- But finally we decide to do it!

- And finally she eats the fruit!

6) And the best if I can say is for the end:

- She gives it to Adam!

- And he eats it!

- He wouldn’t have eaten it otherwise!

- NO WAY!

- He didn’t want to lose her!

- He could have said NO!

- And God would have provided!

- Remember Abraham and the sacrifice of his only son!

 

[JLGJLG]

Biblehub Genesis 3:6

Hebrew
When the woman
הָֽאִשָּׁ֡ה (hā·’iš·šāh)
Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

saw
וַתֵּ֣רֶא (wat·tê·re)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 7200: To see

that
כִּ֣י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

the tree
הָעֵ֨ץ (hā·‘êṣ)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 6086: Tree, trees, wood

[was] good
טוֹב֩ (ṭō·wḇ)
Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 2896: Pleasant, agreeable, good

for food
לְמַאֲכָ֜ל (lə·ma·’ă·ḵāl)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 3978: An eatable

and
וְכִ֧י (wə·ḵî)
Conjunctive waw | Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

pleasing
תַֽאֲוָה־ (ṯa·’ă·wāh-)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 8378: A longing, a delight

to the eyes,
לָעֵינַ֗יִם (lā·‘ê·na·yim)
Preposition-l, Article | Noun - cd
Strong's 5869: An eye, a fountain

[and that it was]
הָעֵץ֙ (hā·‘êṣ)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 6086: Tree, trees, wood

desirable
וְנֶחְמָ֤ד (wə·neḥ·māḏ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Nifal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 2530: To desire, take pleasure in

for obtaining wisdom,
לְהַשְׂכִּ֔יל (lə·haś·kîl)
Preposition-l | Verb - Hifil - Infinitive construct
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

she took
וַתִּקַּ֥ח (wat·tiq·qaḥ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 3947: To take

the fruit
מִפִּרְי֖וֹ (mip·pir·yōw)
Preposition-m | Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 6529: Fruit

and ate it.
וַתֹּאכַ֑ל (wat·tō·ḵal)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 398: To eat

She also gave [some]
וַתִּתֵּ֧ן (wat·tit·tên)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

to her husband,
לְאִישָׁ֛הּ (lə·’î·šāh)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | third person feminine singular
Strong's 582: Man, mankind

and he ate it.
וַיֹּאכַֽל׃ (way·yō·ḵal)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 398: To eat

 

[JLGJLG]

7) And their eyes open!

- Or their minds!

- They choose their free will to go against God’s authority!

- and they KNOW they are naked!

- And they get dressed!

- But YES when they oppose God, their condition changes!

- There are only two ways: FOR or AGAINST God!

- THERE IS NO MIDDLE POSITION!

 

[JLGJLG]

Biblehub Genesis 3:7

Hebrew
And the eyes
עֵינֵ֣י (‘ê·nê)
Noun - cdc
Strong's 5869: An eye, a fountain

of both of them
שְׁנֵיהֶ֔ם (šə·nê·hem)
Number - mdc | third person masculine plural
Strong's 8147: Two (a cardinal number)

were opened,
וַתִּפָּקַ֙חְנָה֙ (wat·tip·pā·qaḥ·nāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Nifal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine plural
Strong's 6491: To open, to be observant

and they
הֵ֑ם (hêm)
Pronoun - third person masculine plural
Strong's 1992: They

knew
וַיֵּ֣דְע֔וּ (way·yê·ḏə·‘ū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural
Strong's 3045: To know

that
כִּ֥י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

they [were] naked;
עֵֽירֻמִּ֖ם (‘ê·rum·mim)
Adjective - masculine plural
Strong's 5903: Naked, nakedness

so they sewed together
וַֽיִּתְפְּרוּ֙ (way·yiṯ·pə·rū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural
Strong's 8609: To sew together

fig
תְאֵנָ֔ה (ṯə·’ê·nāh)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 8384: Of foreign derivation, the fig

leaves
עֲלֵ֣ה (‘ă·lêh)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 5929: A leaf, foliage

and made
וַיַּעֲשׂ֥וּ (way·ya·‘ă·śū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural
Strong's 6213: To do, make

coverings
חֲגֹרֹֽת׃ (ḥă·ḡō·rōṯ)
Noun - feminine plural
Strong's 2290: A belt, girdle

for themselves.
לָהֶ֖ם (lā·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

 

[JLGJLG]

8) NOW IT IS TIME TO BE AFRAID !

- BUT IT IS TOO LATE !

 

[gordon777]

Its good you can tell the first half of the story, so I can remind us of the conclusion that God has shared.


Eve used no free will, she was beguiled by the devil, instead of knowing simplicity is only in Jesus Christ. ( God)




2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



So Eve did not decide by herself to go away from God, as she had no wisdom to do that with, hance relying only on the deceiving tongue of the serpents subtlty.

Neither could Eve desire wisdom, as there was no wisdom to be found, the devil was only deceiving them.

God judges among the gods( to be as gods knowing good and evil)

They are unjust, and do no justice.

God sums them all up asknowing not, no understanding, and being in darkness, and to be gods, ( knowing good and evil as Adam and Eve) but to die like men.

Then God arose to judge the earth through Jesus Christ on earth..




Psalm 82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

 

[JLGJLG]

Biblehub Genesis 3:8

Hebrew
Then the man
הָֽאָדָ֜ם (hā·’ā·ḏām)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

and his wife
וְאִשְׁתּ֗וֹ (wə·’iš·tōw)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

heard
וַֽיִּשְׁמְע֞וּ (way·yiš·mə·‘ū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural
Strong's 8085: To hear intelligently

the voice
ק֨וֹל (qō·wl)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 6963: A voice, sound

of the LORD
יְהוָ֧ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

God
אֱלֹהִ֛ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

walking
מִתְהַלֵּ֥ךְ (miṯ·hal·lêḵ)
Verb - Hitpael - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 1980: To go, come, walk

in the garden
בַּגָּ֖ן (bag·gān)
Preposition-b, Article | Noun - common singular
Strong's 1588: An enclosure, garden

in the breeze
לְר֣וּחַ (lə·rū·aḥ)
Preposition-l | Noun - common singular construct
Strong's 7307: Wind, breath, exhalation, life, anger, unsubstantiality, a region of the sky, spirit

of the day,
הַיּ֑וֹם (hay·yō·wm)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 3117: A day

and they hid themselves
וַיִּתְחַבֵּ֨א (way·yiṯ·ḥab·bê)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hitpael - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 2244: To withdraw, hide

from the presence
מִפְּנֵי֙ (mip·pə·nê)
Preposition-m | Noun - common plural construct
Strong's 6440: The face

of the LORD
יְהוָ֣ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

God
אֱלֹהִ֔ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

among
בְּת֖וֹךְ (bə·ṯō·wḵ)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 8432: A bisection, the centre

the trees
עֵ֥ץ (‘êṣ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 6086: Tree, trees, wood

of the garden.
הַגָּֽן׃ (hag·gān)
Article | Noun - common singular
Strong's 1588: An enclosure, garden

 

[gordon777]

Now it is time to be clothed with salvation, and there is time as testified:




Psalm 132:16 I will also clothe her priests with salvation: and her saints shall shout aloud for joy.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.



2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
11 O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
12 Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.