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“Easter” was not, but its Hebrew version “Ashoreth” was.
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Is “Easter” in the original Scriptures?
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You say as an aside: [We see this in the idea that the wicked will continue to live eternally in hell, or that man is immortal, etc]. Both concepts are arguable biblical, BTW, though Conditionalism has its scholars.
Regarding script, the KJV was overall an upgrade in its days, though very unpopular for a long time. I grant that its use of the term Easter (following Tyndale) was unwise, but it’s long been put right (eg Wesley). It never claimed to be perfect. Roman Catholic Bible versions avoided that error.
Regarding superstition, mixing Christian light into pagan darkness has been a mixed blessing, being light to some and darkness to some. I personally would have preferred a Quintodeciman outcome in the debate about celebration, if folk insist on annual celebrations. I personally prefer daily celebrations of both Birth and Death (Rm.14:5), since both apply to each and every day. I simply can’t image Paul & Peter meeting around a ‘Christmas’ tree, or at an ‘Easter’ to swap eggs. If they see us do so, they perhaps have a good laugh, or at least a sad laugh.
On balance, Christian scholars have been a blessing to the world and the church, but good humanism urges us to go back to source (Ac.17:11).
Ashtoreth is the mother of Baal. The short form is Ashtar or Ishtar and the English form of the word is “EASTER”.
English didn't exist in the OT times. It wouldn't have been in the original Scriptures.
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It's kind of a paradox, you know. The name is the English form of Ashtoreth, the pagan goddess; the purpose is to commemorate and celebrate the resurrection of Jesus on the first sunday after Passover - not worship of fertility and courtship like pagans did in ancient time, and this is a biblical feast of the Lord known as the Feast of First Fruit.
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You mean the one that was made up in' an effort by English Catholics to support the Counter-Reformation....' 'The purpose of the version, both the text and notes, was to uphold Catholic tradition in the face of the Protestant Reformation '
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I guess that you focus here—negatively—on this line: [Roman Catholic Bible versions avoided that error.] Though the Counter-Reformation was a mixed blessing, personally I think that English speakers should critically commend both the Rheims and the KJV, both having encouraged public reading of the scriptures. The KJV translators had been ordered by King James to stick closely to the then current authorised version (Bishops), and the local term Easter had been introduced by Tyndale and kept by Bishops. The KJV did use the Rheims, but sadly didn’t bother to be corrected by it here. Subsequent RC versions have kept to passover, avoiding the Tyndale-KJV error.
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Yes, the old pagan goddess 'Queen of Heaven'.......
"The Church did everything it could to stamp out such 'pagan' rites, but had to capitualet and allow the rites to continue with only the name of the local diety changed to some Christian saint's name." -Religious Tradition and Myth. Dr. Edwin Goodenough, Professor of Religion, Harvard University. p. 56, 57
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The old pagan goddess is not the same as the new covenant Christian “queen of heaven”!
Christ is king! Lk 1:32:33
Psalm 45:9 …upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
Son of David the king: royalty!
Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.
Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
House of David the king:
Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Received the kingdom of David:
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Christ is King, Mary must be queen!
Only a queen can bear a king!
A Royal greeting!
Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!
God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!
This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!
In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!
The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!
Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.
Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16
In scripture only Jesus and Mary are greeted with: “Hail”! Cos they are the royal King and Queen of heaven!
2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49
Heb 2:7
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands
Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary
David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16
Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!
1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!
Christ is king! Lk 1:32:33
Psalm 45:9 …upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
Son of David the king: royalty!
Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.
Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
House of David the king:
Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Received the kingdom of David:
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Christ is King, Mary must be queen!
Only a queen can bear a king!
A Royal greeting!
Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!
God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!
This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!
In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!
The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!
Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.
Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16
In scripture only Jesus and Mary are greeted with: “Hail”! Cos they are the royal King and Queen of heaven!
2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49
Heb 2:7
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands
Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary
David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16
Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!
1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!
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Yes, but men are fallible and can be swayed by their personal interpretations, but overall the Bibles based on the received text, Textus Receptus, are sound.
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Absolutely, men, women, and children, are fallible, and overall Bible versions based on the TRs (there are numerous C16-7 TRs) are sound, though those based on the NUs are potentially better. Certainly evangelicals such as John Wesley haven’t always agreed with the TRs (https://archive.org/details/the-wor...g-bible-versions-2017-231024/page/51/mode/1up). Being good scholars, the KJV translators knew that textual criticism was in its early days, but aimed to make a state-of-the-art version, which sadly proved initially unpopular in spite of its manifold merits: with hindsight we owe them a debt of gratitude: they well earned their pay/promotions.
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Where in the New Testament is the phrase “Queen of Heaven” mentioned?
The Queen of heaven is a pagan deity.
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And not only the 'Queen of Heaven' but other 'goddess' and 'gods' where brought in and 'christianized'.......
Here are a few:
Demeter is a goddess of many festivals but most important, the Thesmophoria, which fell in late October. She became St. Demetrios, a masculine warrior saint, whose fd. is 10/26.
Aphrodite became St. Aphrodite, of which there are several, all with saints' tales that tell how she became a "repentant harlot."
Nike was picked up as Saint Nicholas, who was extremely popular wherever shipping was important. He is the patron saint of Russian, Holland and Germany, all on the north sea coast.
The Roman god Mars was originally a god who guarded wheat fields. He became St. Martin (esp. St. Martin-in-the-fields). Although March is the month associated with Mars (it was the beginning of the military campaigning season in Roman times), the major festival for him in Christian times now usually falls in February, called Mardi Gras "Great Mars."
The Roman god Quirinus became St. Cyrinus, of which there are various "equestrian warrior saints" such as St. Cyr in France, and St. Quirina, mother of St. Lawrence. The element quir- means (or was understood to mean) `horse.' These saints were very popular and widely worshiped in the Middle-Ages, in France, Holland and also eastern Christian countries.
The Roman gods known as the Lares became St. Lawrence, esp. St. Lawrence beyond-the-wall. The Lares were field gods who protected the grain growing in the fields. In Italian, he became St. Lorenzo beyond the Walls, meaning outside of the walls of the city, for which there is still a church in Rome, with many "daughter" churches which developed from it.
The Roman goddess Venus became St. Venera (with a feminized ending to her name since -us looks like a
masculine ending in Latin). She had a major church in Rome in early Christian times, but that didn't last long.
The Roman gods known as the Gemini, who were protectors of sailors in Roman pagan times, became the Sanctos Geminos, with a number of forms in the various Christian religions. Santiago de Compostela, (St. James in English) became the protector of pilgrims during the Middle Ages. Forms of St. James all seem to be christianized from various forms of the Proto-Indo-European god *Yama. This god was repeatedly christianized in most of the Indo-European language groups.
Bacchus became St. Bacchus, and Dionysius became St. Denys or Denis." -(Charles G. Berger, Our Phallic Heritage
[NY, NY: Greenwich Book Publishers, Inc., 1966],
p. 154-155).
The ancient Romans worshiped gods and goddesses involved with every aspect of life. Jupiter, the chief of the gods, was the god of rain and storms, while his wife, Juno, was the goddess of womanhood. Minerva was the goddess of handicrafts and wisdom; Venus, of sexual love and birth; Vesta, of the hearth and sacred fires; Ceres, of farming and harvests.
While the Romans would call generically on "the gods," each major deity still had its own cult, and worshippers would pray and conduct religious ceremonies to a specific god or goddess to implore help.
"The Virgin [Mary] was given the title Queen of Heaven and is depicted wearing a blue robe decorated with stars and
standing on a crescent Moon. This image is almost identical to pagan representations of the goddess of love Ishtar who was worshipped by the Babylonians." -(Michael Howard, The Occult Conspiracy)
Here is the explanation of what happened.....
'In attempting to retain new converts from paganism and bring in more, devotion to all the various gods was at length replaced by devotion to "saints."
Yet it should be realized that all members of the early Christian Church were regarded as saints, meaning people sanctified or set apart to God. Paul greets the church at Philippi as "all the saints in Christ Jesus" (Philippians 1:1). However, it wasn't long before "saints" in the Roman tradition began to take on the meaning of a special class of martyrs or performers of heroic virtue.
In the second and third centuries it became common for local congregations to honor the death of a martyr by celebrating the anniversary of his or her demise. The congregations, by this time having accepted the pagan Greek falsehood of the immortality of the soul and having lost the biblical understanding that those dead in their graves "know nothing" (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10), would then offer prayers to the dead for intercession with God.
Thus the meaning of "saint" changed from the biblical use of the word to refer to any member of the Church to referring to a deceased person declared to be a saint by the bishop of Rome. The evolution from the early Church's recognition of all members being "saints" to the veneration and worship of the dead is rooted in the early mixture of paganism with Christianity. The populace throughout the Roman Empire was not only accustomed to the worship of the Greek and Roman pantheon, but to cultic worship of local deities. It was an easy step for Christian congregations rife with paganism to replace the customs of local cults with the worship of dead martyrs.'
The list of 'saints' grew as each area with new converts were given their local dieties or 'martyrs' or anyone they could get someone to say something to qualify him or her as a 'saint' and a process set for it, and it just goes on and on from there....https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/st-valentine-cupid-and-jesus-christ
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Scripture Verses that contradict the “Bible is our ONLY AUTHORITY”!
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
Matt 13:11
Matt 18:17
Matt 28:19
Lk 1:4
Lk 10:16
Jn 8:32
Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:42
Acts 8:26
Acts 8:31
Acts 15:25-28
Acts 18:25
Rom 10:15
1 cor 4:11
1 cor 11:23
1 thes 2:23
2 thes 2:15
Col 2:7
Eph 1:9
Eph 4:5
Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
1 Tim 3:15
1 Jn 1:3-5
1 Jn 4:6
2 Jn 1:12
Jude 1:3
How can it be said scripture is “sole authority” or the only source of truth or the rule of faith when scripture says we must hear the church Matt 18:17 the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hold the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42 the church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
Matt 13:11
Matt 18:17
Matt 28:19
Lk 1:4
Lk 10:16
Jn 8:32
Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:42
Acts 8:26
Acts 8:31
Acts 15:25-28
Acts 18:25
Rom 10:15
1 cor 4:11
1 cor 11:23
1 thes 2:23
2 thes 2:15
Col 2:7
Eph 1:9
Eph 4:5
Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
1 Tim 3:15
1 Jn 1:3-5
1 Jn 4:6
2 Jn 1:12
Jude 1:3
How can it be said scripture is “sole authority” or the only source of truth or the rule of faith when scripture says we must hear the church Matt 18:17 the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hold the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42 the church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15
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Is Christ the king?Queen of Heaven (antiquity) - Wikipedia
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Psalm 45:9 …upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
Son of David the king: royalty!
Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.
Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
House of David the king:
Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Received the kingdom of David:
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Christ is King, Mary must be queen!
Only a queen can bear a king!
A Royal greeting!
Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!
God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!
This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!
In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!
The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!
Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.
Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16
In scripture only Jesus and Mary are greeted with: “Hail”! Cos they are the royal King and Queen of heaven!
2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49
Heb 2:7
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands
Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary
David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16
Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!
1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!
Son of David the king: royalty!
Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.
Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
House of David the king:
Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Received the kingdom of David:
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Christ is King, Mary must be queen!
Only a queen can bear a king!
A Royal greeting!
Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!
God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!
This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!
In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33 the queen mother sits at His right hand and receives the petitions of the members of the kingdom!
The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!
Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.
Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16
In scripture only Jesus and Mary are greeted with: “Hail”! Cos they are the royal King and Queen of heaven!
2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49
Heb 2:7
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands
Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary
David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16
Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!
1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!
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No the saints were real people in the communion of saints with Christ!
Nicholas was a real
Catholic bishop in smyrna in Asia Minor in the 400’s