You are again misrepresenting my position. I have never stated either of those things.You do oppose it. You do not believe that God loves all of humanity (the world). Nor do you believe that whosoever that believes in Jesus can be saved.
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You are again misrepresenting my position. I have never stated either of those things.You do oppose it. You do not believe that God loves all of humanity (the world). Nor do you believe that whosoever that believes in Jesus can be saved.
The whole world was chosen to be saved by Jesus Christ, John 12:47.Free is simply asking one take the verses on context .
He is saying that the reformed teach this or that not rather what he believes and that if you are going to debate the verses of support that can be used to support that ,then please show.
Some having been predestined from the foundation of the world .
A good place to start .
I didn't stare what I said .The whole world was chosen to be saved by Jesus Christ, John 12:47.
Romans 8 29-30I didn't stare what I said .
And many are called but few are chosen .
Jesus said that .Romans 8 29-30
For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
so how do you reconcile Romans with what you just posted??
Many were called but few were chosen, you say.
Shouldn't God have saved ALL that were called as per Romans 8????
See Jason, no logic.
Free believes John 3:16...he just understands it.You are in opposition to John 3:16. Where Jesus said, "For God so loved the world (all of humanity) that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life".
All of Christianity is based upon this one scripture that you oppose.
Listen well....Jesus said that .
Matthew 22:14
Not me
But I guess stating the Bible saying the word elect is chose
Who is God's elect?
Who was chosen before the foundation of the world and so much so that theyr names were written in the book of life ?
Mary ?
Well that is one possible ,but there's more
No he didn't.Listen well....
Shouldn't all the called be chosen instead of just a few?
That's what Jesus said.
I NEVER said God uses evil.No he didn't.
Read that bible.
For many are called ,few are chosen .
I can post several translations .
And don't assume because I play devil's advocate what I do or don't believe .I merely want to address the problems of arminist.
I am one.
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Once you said nothing happens without a reason,no such thing as a coincidence hmmm then when I said how reformed of you .
You deny that .strange yet you just said that God uses evil ,as I can say often when I sin and God reproves me that my sin was used by God to correct me and often that involves others acting up on me .
God let's that happen to grow me and you can't seem to grasp that God knows evil will happen let's it occur and uses it to His good pleasure .
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It's why the reformed say you don't understand it .
I NEVER said God uses evil.
I'm sure God knows how to teach us without having to resort to evil.
And there's a difference between allowing evil and CAUSING evil.
Allowing evil is the most unanswered question in Christianity.
But to say that God created evil is blasphemous.
It's calling the supreme good, evil.
So when I got PTSD .the evil I saw that forces me to abandoned all other things to rely on God .that wasn't a prayer answered by God by me to teach me that my job ,wife isn't my source.I NEVER said God uses evil.
I'm sure God knows how to teach us without having to resort to evil.
And there's a difference between allowing evil and CAUSING evil.
Allowing evil is the most unanswered question in Christianity.
But to say that God created evil is blasphemous.
It's calling the supreme good, evil.
No...it is not.The whole world was chosen to be saved by Jesus Christ, John 12:47.
How unfortunate that you are not able to believe the scriptures.No...it is not.
I believe all scripture....with understanding. All the Calvinists here do.How unfortunate that you are not able to believe the scriptures.
It you believe that God chose to save some and damned the rest to hell, then you believe that God is an unjust tyrant that delights in sending people to hell. By your words you will be condemned.I didn't stare what I said .
And many are called but few are chosen .
HOGWASH! You believe your Calvinist God.I believe all scripture....with understanding. All the Calvinists here do.
If you humble yourself before God He might allow you to see it also.
"God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.No...it is not.
Yes.That is the true and living God that does all His good pleasure.HOGWASH! You believe your Calvinist God.
Got it. We believe all of Jn.3"God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.
Your Calvinist God will not let you read or understand that scripture.