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Is drinking soda really bad

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Is drinking soda really that bad for you?

Q: I've heard so much about the dangers of drinking soda. Is it really all that bad for you? Or is it just empty calories?
You may have heard about a new study published in the May issue of the American Journal of Nutrition that found an increased risk of stroke in people who consumed more than one soda per day.
These findings are not surprising in light of the growing body of evidence linking intake of sugar sweetened beverages -- of which soda makes up the largest percentage -- and diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, obesity and high cholesterol.

Sugar sweetened beverage consumption has increased significantly over the past several decades. Recent National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey data found that half of the U.S. population consumes at least one sugar sweetened beverage on any given day. Men consume on average 178 calories per day from sugar sweetened beverages and women consume 103 calories per day.
Of particular concern in light of the current childhood obesity epidemic is the increased use in children, especially teens and young adults. Soda often displaces more healthful items in the diet and is a warning sign of a poor quality diet.

The dangers of soda extend beyond the increase in calories, although this is likely an important contributor to weight gain and obesity. Calories consumed in liquid form do not satisfy hunger as effectively as calories consumed in solid food form, so people often consume more total calories, which can lead to weight gain.
In addition, consuming large amounts of rapidly digested sugar and high fructose corn syrup causes a spike in blood sugar and insulin, which can lead to inflammation and insulin resistance, both of which may increase your risk of stroke, heart disease, diabetes, obesity and cancer.

The large doses of fructose from both sucrose (table sugar) and high fructose corn syrup may be particularly detrimental to your health as they can cause the accumulation of metabolically toxic belly fat, cholesterol abnormalities -- including high triglycerides and reduced levels of HDL (good cholesterol) -- and nonalcoholic associated fatty liver disease.

Soda is also associated with symptoms of gastro-esophageal reflux disease, when the contents of the stomach leak back up and cause a burning sensation in the esophagus. While drinking soda is not known to cause ulcers, it can cause symptoms to flare up.
The American Heart Association recommends consuming no more than 450 calories from sugar sweetened beverages per week (the amount in three cans of cola).

If you are overweight or obese, or at risk for heart disease or diabetes, you should limit your intake of sugar sweetened beverages as much as possible, including soda, energy drinks, sports drinks, juice drinks and sweetened water and/or tea.
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I agree. Soda's horrible for you. Good thing I'm a true American who drinks pop. Lots and lots and lots and lots of pop, the Diet Coke persuasion of pop.

:coke :coke :coke
 
Mt. Dew has a patented flame retardant in it. Brominated vegitable oil is what it is labled as on the side. Most citris drinks use it.

Mike, it might be counter intuitive, but diet drinks are not better for you than regular sodas. It blocks your glands that you need to digest food. That is why your poop smells so bad. You are inadvertently constipating yourself and the food you eat rots inside your intestines. Food for thought.
 
Mt. Dew has a patented flame retardant in it. Brominated vegitable oil is what it is labled as on the side. Most citris drinks use it.

Mike, it might be counter intuitive, but diet drinks are not better for you than regular sodas. It blocks your glands that you need to digest food. That is why your poop smells so bad. You are inadvertently constipating yourself and the food you eat rots inside your intestines. Food for thought.
where do you get this? shoot oranges have acid in them and i can make lights with their power. seen it and i may do it for the royal explorers. citric acid is in all citrus. which include grapefruit and oranges and lemon. yet people eat/drink of these all the time. sure sodas can be bad in large amounts.
 
Will Coke Dissolve A Nail?†Experiment

Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 11:00pm
coke-nail-lede.jpg

Every now and then someone sends me an e-mail that claims the difference between Coke and water, and how bad Coke is for you. To illustrate that, the e-mail points out that Coke can be used to clean a toilet, help remove a rusty bolt or remove blood from a highway accident.

One item, in particular, caught my eye:
The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.
This one entry screamed that it just can’t be true. Let’s examine it:
“The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid.†– An active ingredient is defined as: “a component or mixture that performs the function of the productâ€. What exactly is the function of Coca-Cola? According to the Coca-Cola web site, Coca-Cola does not perform any function, other than to provide “true refreshment†(a bit vague of a function if you ask me). To that end, I would be inclined to believe that the sugar and water in Coke are more likely to be called “active ingredients†than phosphoric acid, although phosphoric acid does contribute to the taste of Coke.
“Its pH is 2.8.†– Its pH may very well be 2.8, but with the amount that is actually in a can of Coke, I’m sure that the other ingredients buffer it. Ever drink a glass of wine? Good quality wine has a pH of about 2.9. pH of 2.8 is about the pH of lemon juice. A pH of 2.8 might make your mouth pucker, but it won’t hurt you.
“It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.†– What will? Based on elementary school English, the subject of the first sentence is phosphoric acid. The “it†in the second and third sentences are pronouns referring to the phosphoric acid in the first sentence. That means that phosphoric acid will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. What does that have to do with Coke? Is it the only ingredient in there? I have hydrochloric acid in my stomach with a pH of 2…if I hold a nail in my hand for four days, will it dissolve?
So, now that we have dissected it, lets go ahead and test it!
Introduction

The purpose of this experiment is to test the validity of the “The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. It’s pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.†statement that is found in several e-mails making their way around the Internet. Specifically, will a nail left in Coca-Cola dissolve in about four days (96 hours).
The first thing that came to mind is that the e-mail did not specifically say which variety of Coke it was talking about. In the absence of a particular variety, I would assume that the plain old Classic Coca-Cola variety would be assumed. To be on the safe side, I included four of the most popular varieties of Coke: Classic Coke, Diet Coke, Vanilla Coke, and Cherry Coke. For good measure, I also included Pepsi, Dr Pepper, Sprite and some genuine, fresh, New York City tap water (it’s won taste tests!).
The second thing that came to mind is that the e-mail did not specifically say what kind of nail the nail is. It is steel? Brass? Lead? Keratin? I decided that the two most popular kinds (and the kinds most likely to be found in my apartment) were the standard steel, “wall mounting†nail, and the keratin based fingernail. I rummaged around my toolbox and found the former. The latter was a bit harder to come by. I had just cut my nails earlier in the week, and didn’t have much growth to make an effective experiment; however, my toenails were due for a trimming. Only problem with toenails is that when clipped, they have a tendency to fly across the room at a high rate of speed. This made gathering them up a bit of a challenge, but testing the veracity of the email claims are my contribution to society, and as such, a little discomfort would have to be endured.
The following table details the list of equipment used in this experiment. I’ve also included the ingredients listed for the sodas used in the experiment.
QuantityItem
1/4 oz.​
Coca-Cola (Classic)
1/4 oz.​
Diet Coke
1/4 oz.​
Vanilla Coke1/4 oz.
Cherry Coke1/4 oz.
Pepsi1/4 oz.
Dr Pepper1/4 oz.
Sprite
1/4 oz.​
NYC tap water, unfiltered, straight from the tap
9​
glass spice jars with tops9
steel, 1″ nails
9​
toenails of various sizes from Josh
1​
8x Carl Zeiss loupe (for examining the results)
1​
Revlon toenail clipper (for clipping the toenails)
3​
Paper towels (for general spills, toenail clippings, etc.)
1​
small glass food preparation bowlThe following photos were of the initial setup:
All equipment
Keratin nails

Steel nails
Measuring out the Coke


Pouring the Coke

The nails just before submerging

December 14, 2003

Each spice jar was labeled with the name of the liquid that it was to hold. 1/4 oz. of each liquid in the experiment was measured out and poured into the corresponding spice jar. A steel and keratin nail were randomly chosen and assigned to each jar. Each jar, steel nail, and keratin nail were photographed. The steel nail and keratin nail were examined under the 8x loupe and notes were made about their appearances.
At 2100 hours (Eastern Standard Time (EST)) the nails were put into the jars, and the tops were put on the jars. The tops were not screwed on tightly, but rather left a little loose to allow some gas to escape.
I will check on the progress at 2100 hours tomorrow.
December 15, 2003

At 2100 hours (24 hours after starting the experiment) the nails in each jar were photographed, examined with the 8x loupe and compared to the control samples and the notes made at the start of the experiment.
Both the steel nails and the keratin nails from the Coke, Diet Coke, Vanilla Coke, Cherry Coke, Pepsi and Dr Pepper showed no signs of change, other than a darker color. The steel nail and keratin nail in the Sprite showed no sign of change other than a slightly duller color. The steel nail in the tap water showed some signs of surface rust, with the water near the nail a medium rust color. The keratin nail in the water showed no changes.
I will check on the progress at 2100 hours tomorrow.
December 16, 2003

At 2100 hours (48 hours after starting the experiment) the nails in each jar were photographed, examined with the 8x loupe and compared to the control samples and the notes made at the start of the experiment and after 24 hours.
Both the steel nails and the keratin nails from the Coke, Diet Coke, Vanilla Coke, Pepsi and Dr Pepper showed no signs of change, other than the darker color seen yesterday. The steel nail and keratin nail in the Sprite showed no sign of change since yesterday. The steel nail in the tap water showed more signs of surface rust, about 50% of the outside covered with it. The water near the nail was a deep rust color, and there were these little rust colored specks all over the bottom of the jar. The keratin nail in the water showed no changes.
The steel nail in the Cherry Coke showed some signs of a slight corrosion on about 1/8 of the shaft of the nail. It was only evident on one side of the nail, and I’m not sure whether this was the side of the nail that was in contact with the glass jar or not.
I will check on the progress at 2100 hours tomorrow.
December 17, 2003

At 2230 hours (73.5 hours after starting the experiment) the nails in each jar were photographed, examined with the 8x loupe and compared to the control samples and the notes made at the start of the experiment and after 24 and 48 hours.
Both the steel nails and the keratin nails from the Coke, Diet Coke, Vanilla Coke, Pepsi and Dr Pepper showed no signs of change, other than the darker color seen the past two days. The Diet Coke steel nail seems to be lighter than the other cola nails, but it is still darker than the control nail. The Sprite liquid has turned a slightly green/yellow color, and the keratin nail shows a slightly green/yellow tint. The steel nail in the Sprite looks dull, but otherwise, unchanged. The steel nail in the tap water showed more signs of surface rust, about 75% of the outside covered with it, but there is a section that has no rust, again, I assume this is where the nail is in contact with the glass. The water near the nail was a deep rust color, and there were these little rust colored specks all over the bottom of the jar. The keratin nail in the water sports a rust colored hue, but otherwise, appears unchanged.
The steel nail in the Cherry Coke does not show the signs of the slight corrosion mentioned yesterday, and looks very similar to the other cola nails.
I will check on the progress at 2100 hours tomorrow.
December 18, 2003

At 2330 hours (98.5 hours after starting the experiment) the nails in each jar were photographed, examined with the 8x loupe and compared to the control samples and the notes made at the start of the experiment and after 24, 48, and 73.5 hours.
This is the official end of the experiment since the e-mail said the nail would dissolve in Coke after four days. It has been four days plus 2.5 hours since the experiment began.
The keratin nails from all of the soda’s showed no ill effects. They did turn the color of the soda and were soft, like after you take a shower, but overall, they were unaffected.
The steel nail results are as follows:
JarResult1. CokeIt is dark and rough to the touch.2. Diet CokeIt is smooth and is rusted on 75% of the shaft.3. Vanilla CokeIt is smoother and slightly lighter in color than that of the Coke nail.4. Dr PepperIt is smooth and has an even, dark luster throughout the nail. Of the cola nails, this one seems to be the most consistent in its feel over the whole nail.5. PepsiIt has the same color and touch as the Coke nail.6. SpriteIt is dull compared to the control nail. Otherwise, unchanged.7. Cherry CokeIt is slightly darker than the Vanilla Coke nail, but not as dark as the Coke or Pepsi nail. Has a slightly rough touch to it.8. WaterIt has rust over 100% of it. Some patches are darker than others.9. ControlNail is shiny and has the same color and touch as a nail straight from the package.All steels nails after experiment is over

Now that we know what happens to the outside appearance of the nail, we now need to test its structural strength. The only test I could think of that I could do with my limited resources was to try to hammer each nail into some wood.
The results of the hammer and nail test were the same for each nail. Each nail had no problem being driven into the wood. Each nail took about four hits to be driven halfway into the wood (not including the four times I hit my thumb…the things I do for science!).
Nails in wood

Conclusion

As I suspected, no nail of any kind was dissolved by any of the sodas.
At least that entry in the e-mail is false. Perhaps I should tackle some of the other entries…
Bibliography

The Coca-Cola Company
http://www.coca-cola.com/
Science Is Fun in the Lab of Shakhashiri – Chemical of the Week – Phosphoric Acid
http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/chemweek/H3PO4/H3PO4.html
Gondar Design Science – Acids and alkalis—the pH scale
http://www.purchon.com/chemistry/ph.htm


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That above steel nail experiment is completely awesome! I always did wonder at some of the outrageous things people say about coke lol...

But anyway, the truth is that Western nations are a time-bomb in terms of their health. Diabetes levels will explode, and cardiovascular problems are already the big killer. We do NOT need all that sugar to make things any worse. The amount of sugar in one can is actually sickening, and the effect it has in terms of overall insulin insensitivity is a lot worse than the actual weight gain.

SODA = HIGH SUGAR = DIABETES IN A CAN!

Often people think that diabetes is "not so bad" - just do the finger blood test thingy now and then and you'll be alright... Not so. It's a massive cause of heart problems, blindness, foot ulcers and amputations. The dietary restrictions alone should scare off most people!
 
If I drink any soda, it's the diet version usually with rum (which is maybe why I sometimes sound bonkers :lol).

But the sugar substitute I realize is no better being a harsh chemical. It just goes well with the rum as I don't like any juice or sugary stuff with it does not go, so I restrict it to that.

I've known for a long time now, that besides sugar, the danger in soda is that the carbonation and such sucks the calcium and magnesium out of you. Excessive soda drinkers may be lacking these minerals, and if you notice, lacking these minerals can also add to diabetes, heart trouble, cancers, etc. So, maybe the sugar should not stand up and take the bow for these maladies, but the (usual) nutritional deficiencies that oftentimes go with bad habits --- after all, if a person is eating and drinking junk, they probably are not taking in as much nutritional stuff.
 
Up until last summer, I was a excessive Mountain Dew drinker, I think that stuff was killing me, and the weight gain was crazy.
 
where do you get this? shoot oranges have acid in them and i can make lights with their power. seen it and i may do it for the royal explorers. citric acid is in all citrus. which include grapefruit and oranges and lemon. yet people eat/drink of these all the time. sure sodas can be bad in large amounts.

Here is a very balanced article about Brominated Vegetable Oil from Scientific America detailing it's history and with the concerns and arguments surrounding the ingredient.
 
Here is a very balanced article about Brominated Vegetable Oil from Scientific America detailing it's history and with the concerns and arguments surrounding the ingredient.
mixed citrus drinks has that. well im curious if you all know that with any shaving cream I have cleaned my dirty m-16, m9mm and m249 and mk-19. it makes that carbon come off in a few minutes. no scrubbing just wipe it off and use a cue tips to rub it in.

yet we have used that for years.
 
Here is a very balanced article about Brominated Vegetable Oil from Scientific America detailing it's history and with the concerns and arguments surrounding the ingredient.
once again extreme drinking such as binge drinking, chugging them all day. i drink alot but not that much.
 
As I am here drinking a coke zero replying on the iPhone, yeah it's probably bad, along with the radio waves from phone.
 
once again extreme drinking such as binge drinking, chugging them all day. i drink alot but not that much.

I think that most people with my bend would say that if that was all you did, then you would be fine, but since most Americans do much more than just drink soda once in a while their bodies are not able to fight of disease and illness. Why is cancer and diabetes so prevelent? Why is heart disease so common in low-income black men? Why do Chinese women have a higher risk of cancer in America than in China? Why are all of these diseases on a rise? It couldn't just be that we can detect them better now...
 
I think that most people with my bend would say that if that was all you did, then you would be fine, but since most Americans do much more than just drink soda once in a while their bodies are not able to fight of disease and illness. Why is cancer and diabetes so prevelent? Why is heart disease so common in low-income black men? Why do Chinese women have a higher risk of cancer in America than in China? Why are all of these diseases on a rise? It couldn't just be that we can detect them better now...
i have a question for you as my grandparents all lived over 80 and were born before my 1925.grandpa on my moms side remembers when the titanic sank as he was 5 when it happened. they all spoke of new borns dying earlier then age 2 or being still born. my grandpa john said he was told to marry a women twenty years younger as they often died in child birth or young so that he could remmarry if widowed and pass on his seed in either case.

his wife my grandma died 10 years before i was born from brain tumors.
 
Too much of just about anything isn't good. If ALL you drink is soda,pop,coke, whatever...then you need to moderate your intake!
Drink more water than those. Juice is good for you, but not if all you drink is juice!
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Too much of just about anything isn't good. If ALL you drink is soda,pop,coke, whatever...then you need to moderate your intake!
Drink more water than those. Juice is good for you, but not if all you drink is juice!
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on a very important side note. one can die from hypotoxia and yes it does happen. its simply getting too much water. a neighbor of a coworker got overheated and thought she was dehydrated and chugged 5 gallons of water a day. she had a heart attack from low pottasium levels in her body. i have what is called reverse osmisos water in my house it has no florine. no clorine or any minerals. i if drink too much of it will dehydrate me as well.
 
At 4.5 gallons...one should realize there might be another issue....strange.
 
Should probably get checked for diabetes.
no, she did it ignorance its does happen and so much has it happened that the army is teaching soldiers not to overdrink water! you can do it easily when you arent working out or sweating much and are told to chug that water by the army no matter hot or cold.
 
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