Is gluttony a sin?

[Classik]

When I was a kid I used to polish off everything in sight. I seldom eat now. I can go without food for long. At times I even forgot to feed...and I still do (and especially when those guys are on the field:bounceball)

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There are people who naturally eat a lot. Some are greedy - they eat anywhere they go.

So, is gluttony a sin?

 

[Paul McDonald]

When I was a kid I used to polish off everything in sight. I seldom eat now. I can go without food for long. At times I even forgot to feed...and I still do (and especially when those guys are on the field:bounceball)

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There are people who naturally eat a lot. Some are greedy - they eat anywhere they go.

So, is gluttony a sin?

Gluttony is not only a sin, but one of the original 7 deadly sins. The currently recognized version of the sins are usually given as wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.

Proverbs 28:7 (NKJV)
Whoever keeps the law is a discerning son,
But a companion of gluttons shames his father.
Remember that we are the temple of the Spirit of God

Proverbs 23:20-21 (NKJV)
Do not mix with winebibbers,
Or with gluttonous eaters of meat;
For the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty,
And drowsiness will clothe a man with rags.

I could go on, but I'm sure you get the picture. By the way, you SHOULD eat!

 

[reba]

Classik Shame on you Shame shame this is the Christmas season baking goodies is a big part of the season and you go and throw gluttony in the oven.


Date bars, oatmeal cookies, banana nut muffins, pecan pie bars. Sugar cookies, lemon bars... pumpkin pie, mince pie, cinnamon rolls, cocoanut and banana cream pies.....

 

[Drew]

So, is gluttony a sin?

Definitely.

And it is a sin that most Christians give each other a "pass" on. There is no need to be fat - despite protestations about "metabolism" problems. Just go to a place like Korea (I have been there) - no fat adults whatsoever. I doubt very much that Koreans are all genetically programmed to be skinny. Likewise, I do not believe westerners are programmed to be overweight.

In support of this, you will some overweight Koreans in Canada and the US, as well as some overweight Korean children in Korea. Reason for overweight Korean kids: they are adopting the horrible food habits of North Americans.

The issue here is rather clearly eating and exercise habits, not genetic destiny.

Gluttony is a huge public health crisis in Canada and the USA.

 

[Drew]

Date bars, oatmeal cookies, banana nut muffins, pecan pie bars. Sugar cookies, lemon bars... pumpkin pie, mince pie, cinnamon rolls, cocoanut and banana cream pies.....

The problem is not that these things - all dreadlful for you - are eaten between Christmas and New Years - it is that they are eaten between New Years and Christmas.

As much as such foods are enjoyable to eat, they are wreaking great damage precisely because they are not enjoyed as rare treats.

Obviously, this is not true for all - there are no doubt those who can keep their level of consumption of these things at an appropriate level. But many, perhaps most, cannot.

 

[Webers_Home]

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Classic gluttony has very little to do with what we today identify as over-eating. It's actually associated with wild parties where people stuffed themselves with booze and food and then when they couldn't hold any more, they excused themselves and went somewhere to barf it all up so they could go back inside and continue the revelry; which usually included an orgy along with the food and beverage.

So unless everybody's upcoming Xmas dinner includes barfing, gratuitous sex, and endless alcohol; we probably won't get in trouble for merely pigging out and adding an inch or two to our muffin tops.

Cliff
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[Drew]

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Classic gluttony has very little to do with what we today identify as over-eating. It's actually associated with wild parties where people stuffed themselves with booze and food and then when they couldn't hold any more, they excused themselves and went somewhere to barf it all up so they could go back inside and continue the revelry; which usually included an orgy along with the food and beverage.

So unless everybody's upcoming Xmas dinner includes barfing, gratuitous sex, and endless alcohol; we probably won't get in trouble for merely pigging out and adding an inch or two to our muffin tops.

Cliff
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I suspect that are right - that the intent of Biblical rebukes against gluttony target this kind of behaviour, not "over-eating" in the modern sense.

Nevertheless, I suggest is otherwise clear that 21st century North American eating habits are indeed generally sinful. Damaging our bodies - the temple of the Holy Spirit - cannot be anything other than sin.

 

[Classik]

Classik Shame on you Shame shame this is the Christmas season baking goodies is a big part of the season and you go and throw gluttony in the oven.


Date bars, oatmeal cookies, banana nut muffins, pecan pie bars. Sugar cookies, lemon bars... pumpkin pie, mince pie, cinnamon rolls, cocoanut and banana cream pies.....

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I am soooooooorry. I know I have troubled the whole universe
[SIZE="+5"](Gluttony permitted for December period!)[/SIZE]

 

[reba]

Back a million years the guest speaker was raging about the damnable effects of alcohol and tobacco....That stuff can be very bad ...one of his text verses was

Pro 23:21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.

This guy was short and very round he is prancing back and forth across the platform. Had the buttons on his vest 'popped' they would have killed someone

Thank you for the OK we can fast in January:toofunny

 

[Classik]

Back a million years the guest speaker was raging about the damnable effects of alcohol and tobacco....That stuff can be very bad ...one of his text verses was

Pro 23:21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.

This guy was short and very round he is prancing back and forth across the platform. Had the buttons on his vest 'popped' they would have killed someone

Thank you for the OK we can fast in January:toofunny

You are indeed hillarious fellowshipping with our brethren is quite good

 

[Classik]

My mom is the best cook in the whole universe. Her dishes are so powerful enough to attract any person on earth. Her food is a kind of weapon. Once you take it...you always taste for more. She has the magic.

So her food brings us all home. Stealing her food is not an offence! We all need to steal it.
My soul longs for her roasted meat. The more you eat of it the hungrier you become.

So when the dish is almost ready we all sneak inside and begin praising her.

Thank God it's Christmas - and we are all coming home to eat the magic food that gets us hungrier.
Her contract continues in heaven;)
But I hate it when she gets so economical with her food:bigfrown (The bible says: tomorrow takes care of itself)

 

[reba]

:toofunny no wonder now why gluttony came to your mind/soul.... Just one week and mama's cooking will be ....................all gone

 

[Classik]

We have a family friend who loves food so much. It is a diesease, I think. She eats anything edible, she eats everywhere she goes. You don't ask her to join you on the dinning - she walks straight to the table and swallows anything in sight.


The attitude is indeed frightening. She is indeed a very pretty version of a woman, I see this singular habit is her dark side - a weakness - her weakness.

How I wish she could stop this unhealthy behavior (we have tried talking to her...she gradually goes back to it

I very rarely feed outside. I don't struggle over food...although my mom's food is quite overwhelming. I chose where I eat. I often cook what I eat.

 

[Classik]

:toofunny no wonder now why gluttony came to your mind/soul.... Just one week and mama's cooking will be ....................all gone

Maybe!

Her food keeps my dad home. Dad can't love another woman. No matter what you cook and give him...he'd pucker his face and tell you: 'tasty - but not as good as your mom's.'

Nonsense! Some are blinded with love:dunno

 

[reba]

you have given a new meaning to belly laughs :toofunny

 

[Classik]

you have given a new meaning to belly laughs :toofunny

okeydokey;)

 

[jasoncran]

Obviously you didn't read what I posted. I wrote that I have a very well balanced diet, and exercise routine.

I've been to doctors and they don't know why when I exercise and kick my own butt for 90 minutes that I don't lose any weight. I have to work four times harder than a woman who doesn't have PCOS.

I don't have time to work out 4 - 6 hours a day.

I limit myself to 1400 calories a day. For my height and weight, and the exercise that I do everyday except on Sunday as it's the Lord's day, I should be burning about 600 calories a day. My BMR which is the metabolic rate that my body should be burning calories if I were to do NOTHING at all, I should be burning 1873 calories with no exercise at all. So, eating a 1400 calorie diet that is 400 calories a day without even exercising. The 90 minutes that I do everyday is an additional 200 calories that I burn daily.

So, you're continuing to act like a know it all by posting something from a website "assuming" that it applies to every single woman on the planet with PCOS.

So, tell me, Doctor Drew what am I doing wrong with my exercise routine and diet of 1400 calories a day since you're acting like you're a licensed doctor?

settle this by pm.

i prefer not to act as a mod here and lock and or give warnings.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Yes - ANY compulsive habitual behavior is sinful by nature.

 

[Mike]

Folks, if this is never going to get back to the point of the OP, then I'm going to move this to the Health & Nutrition Forum. Out of respect to Classik, I think this should get back to the question gluttony and sin (or at least tie it in). I can separate this thread if some of you want to continue discussing whether everyone can lose weight.

(edit - good going, Bob! )

 

[Mike]

I'm locking this for a small while, as I clean up and move any posts to a new thread.

Then this thread will open up again.

Thank you!