It's rather interesting that in all the writings of the Apostles, they never speak of "hell," or torment of any kind.
Scripture says differently, DI
Acts 2: 27 (Luke} 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption
Acts 2:31 (Luke)31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption
James 3:6 (Half brother of Jesus) 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell
Revelation of John 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Revelation of John 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth
Revelation of John 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works:
Revelation of John20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death
It would be necessary to pay the penalty for sin, which is death, and to be raised to life to bring about the New Creation. There are many reasons for why Jesus came to die on the Cross for our sins, never does he state, that he came to die to save people from eternal torment.
Scripture says differently, DI
Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many
Mark 10:45 45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many
To Whom Was the Ransom Paid?:
The question "Who receives the ransom?" is not directly raised in Scripture, but it is one that not unnaturally occurs to the mind, and theologians have answered it in varying ways.
(1) Not to Satan.
The idea entertained by some of the Fathers (Irenaeus, Origen) that the ransom was given to Satan, who is conceived of as having through the sin of man a righteous claim upon him, which Christ recognizes and meets, is grotesque, and not in any way countenanced by Scripture.
(2) To Divine Justice.
But in repudiating it, there is no need to go so far as to deny that there is anything answering to a real ransoming transaction. All that we have said goes to show that, in no mere figure of speech, but in tremendous reality, Christ gave "his life a ransom," and if our mind demands an answer to the question to whom the ransom was paid, it does not seem at all unreasonable to think of the justice of God, or God in His character of Moral Governor, as requiring and receiving it. In all that Scripture asserts about propitiation, sacrifice, reconciliation in relation to the work of Christ, it is implied that there is wrath to be averted, someone to be appeased or satisfied, and while it may be enough simply to think of the effects of Christ's redeeming work in setting us free from the penal claims of the Law--the just doom of sin--it does not seem going beyond the spirit of Scripture to draw the logical inference that the ransom price was paid to the Guardian of that holy law, the Administrator of eternal justice. From ISBE
The Cross and Hell are never directly connected in Scripture, I wonder why that is.
The former is the reason for the redemption of the saints, and the latter is for the "ain'ts" who reject the ransom paid by the blood of Jesus
I don't know how a being as Holy as God is could permit the existence of evil for eternity, especially with that evil and suffering will be far more plentiful in that scenario. I also don't see how Eternal Conscious Torment makes sense of God's justice, as it does not in any stretch seem to be a proper punishment. Tyrants use torment and torture as a perverted and barbaric form of "justice," when really it is simply to appease their insatiable taste for violence. Also, an infinite amount of time for given as punishment for every single person regardless of the crime betrays all logic, and can only be seen as right when one disregards reason and turns to "mystery."
All this is opinion, and not based upon solid exegesis of the Bible; otherwise you would have included it. Of course it is permissible to have an opinion, however; unless we base our opinion on what the Bible clearly shows we are on weak ground.
One opinion I have is when you link the laws and consequences of disobedience that a just, righteous and holy God of the Bible set forth, with capricious dictators such as in N Korea (inferred) I believe that's questionable.
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Perish means to die, to be destroyed, it does not mean to eternally torment in hell.
Again, your opinion. What are you trying to say here, DI?
The reason I mentioned "opinion" here so much is to have you recall that "opinion" is not the same as a Bible study, which is in the title of this particular part of the forum.
Also, I wanted to demonstrate through posting of Bible verses that your generalized statements were in fact contrary to what Scripture stated.
Please notice that in none of my reply did I attack you. I did not call you "ugly" nor did I say "your mother dresses you funny". This was simply an insertion of facts to counter opinions not supported by the Bible.
