Yes. Those are great scriptures for us to believe and practice.
The other things seem to be good if they are administered biblically.
JLB
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Yes. Those are great scriptures for us to believe and practice.
The other things seem to be good if they are administered biblically.
JLB
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God
1 Thessalonians 4:3-4
JLB
Lots of Christians believe a lot of unbiblical things, and teach them as well, because that’s what their denomination teaches them to believe.
Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9
My hope is that we can return to the strong foundation of truth that was laid by Jesus Christ and His Apostles in the New Testament.
JLB
GodsGrace
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Hi Randy,
Haven't read everything so I may be repeating.
Infant baptism is not unlawful.
There are reasons why the Early Church Fathers practiced baptising infants.
I must say that I do not believe this is what Jesus intended since the entire N.T. states that one must believe AND be baptized.
I'm just writing to say that the Catholic church, which doctrine I'm familiar with...does teach that some type of special grace (sanctifying) is received through the sacrament of baptism...AND the child is welcomed into the community of believers.
HOWEVER, that church teaches that baptism is not enough to save. At some point in the life of the baptized infant, he MUST come to believe in God and serve God.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
J,
Are you referring to the Catholic church???
If so, persons are not born again at confirmation.
And how would you explain the difference between:
SANCTIFY
SANCTIFICATION
??
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
The parents are in charge of how their child grows up to maturity as a child will mimic the actions of its parents. If they baptize/dedicate the infant to the Lord then it is their responsibility to raise the child knowing who Jesus is and to be an example of Jesus in their own life. When the child becomes old enough to start making proper decision knowing right from wrong/good and evil then they will chose what path they want to take and hopefully it will be the right path that leads to Jesus.
GodsGrace
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Have you raised children Ed?
I've raised two.
One is saved.
One says he believes in God...but does he??
I don't think so.
Parents could do all they can to raise a child to believe in God, Jesus, Christianity...but they still have outside influences and forces working on them.
OTOH, some parents are atheist but a child could grow up to believe.
It can work both ways, but parents, ideally speaking, should raise their children to know and respect God and they should speak of Jesus all the time as if He were a part of the family. Oh,,,and expose them to church and other Christians.
Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
This is confirmation as Peter was asked a question and God gave Peter confirmation that Jesus is the Son of God.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Notice the word sanctified in vs. 21 as this means set apart and made holy by God once we purge ourselves of sin (repent).
Sanctification as used in the new covenant is HAGIOSMOS (Greek word) and means basically set apart in the sense of being set apart from all else and dedicated for God's use. This is a work of grace at salvation sets the believer apart as separate from and holy unto God
I just want to first make this clear to everyone in what I'm about to say as this isn't to put down anyone in what they believe or what Church they chose to attend. This is just something to think about and really needs no reply.
IMO I think our greatest disagreements are within who we are allowing to teach us. Every denomination/non-denomination has it's own doctrines, statement of faith and church by laws that govern each and every church. Each church has to be teaching a different doctrine or else we would all be in agreement.
Truth does not come by what the early church fathers taught as even they disagreed with each other. It's not from what is taught from the pulpit as Pastors disagree with each other. How many times have you heard, "Well, that's not what my Pastor/Priest teaches" even when you show them that which is already written in the scriptures and even have them read it out loud right in front of you.
So what are we to believe and how do we find truth? Are we going to rely on man to teach us or are we going to rely on that which has already been clearly written as being the sound doctrine (teaching) of Christ we call the scriptures.
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Why are we not believing that which has already been taught by Christ Jesus?
Again, just something to think about.
IMO I think our greatest disagreements are within who we are allowing to teach us. Every denomination/non-denomination has it's own doctrines, statement of faith and church by laws that govern each and every church. Each church has to be teaching a different doctrine or else we would all be in agreement.
Truth does not come by what the early church fathers taught as even they disagreed with each other. It's not from what is taught from the pulpit as Pastors disagree with each other. How many times have you heard, "Well, that's not what my Pastor/Priest teaches" even when you show them that which is already written in the scriptures and even have them read it out loud right in front of you.
So what are we to believe and how do we find truth? Are we going to rely on man to teach us or are we going to rely on that which has already been clearly written as being the sound doctrine (teaching) of Christ we call the scriptures.
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Why are we not believing that which has already been taught by Christ Jesus?
Again, just something to think about.
The priestly blessing. Numbers 6:24-26
The Lord will bless you and protect you. The Lord will make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The Lord will turn His face towards you and give you peace.
It would have been ideal if they had stated what words Jesus stated when He placed His hands on the little children.
I am not confident that grace is given through sacraments. I am confident "Jesus" gives grace in answer to prayer.
daninthelionsden
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Our daughter went from being someone who had empathy and cared about others to someone treacherous and basically deceptively evil in a very short time, having turned into an immoral blank slate easily influenced by outsiders. I won't let her near me.
GodsGrace
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God abundantly supplies grace to those that seek it.
The more we use His grace...the more we get.
I believe adults should be baptized after they come to believe in Jesus.
The reasons for baptizing infants in the early church were for some good reasons UNTIL Augustine in the 400's. HE decided that babies would die and go to hell from being born in Original Sin (or WITH O.S.). This was not believed before him.
Problems come about when the N.T. and Jesus' teachings are not followed correctly.
Jesus only said that we must be like children to enter into heaven.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
I'm so sorry D,,,,
Something had to have happened.
Keep praying for her...satan is affected by prayer and it sounds like she
may be in a dark place right now.
It can change.
Love casts out evil....
Stay away if you feel that's what you should do...
but show her you love her.
Satan hates love...
I'm not saying she's possessed...you know what I mean...
She's on the wrong path.
daninthelionsden
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I believe the Lord warned her in a nightmare she was on the wrong path and yet she continued and continues and I personally fear her.
The dream she had goes like this. She said she found herself in a large long cavern lit by flames. Along the wall of the cavern was a ledge. Along the ledge were people waiting in a long line. The ledge was wide enough for her to walk along the line of people. Some of them she recognizes while others she did not. She asked them what they were standing in line for, but they just pointed toward the head of the line. When she reached the head of the line, She asked "What are you waiting for?" The person pointed and my daughter turned to see what they were pointing at and beheld a sight of horror. A person was seated in a chair and others were around him/her carving pieces of flesh from their face. After they got through, the person would be told to get up and the group around the chair would yell "Next!" The person got up from the chair still screaming in pain and run across the cavern floor to a lava river and jump in screaming. The people in the lava were flailing while burning up to bones. The skeletons continued screaming and flailing.....undead. My daughter ran back along the line trying to warn the others in line what was awaiting them, but none heeded. She said she awoke from that nightmare soon thereafter. When she told me the dream, I told her that was the most spiritual dream I'd ever heard of and asked her if she would write the dream down. I told her she had received the most direct warning I had ever heard of in dream form. She began turning on us soon after. She never heeded. As far as I can tell, she never will. Getting distance from her is part of the reason we moved so far away.
There are so many evil influences in this world that others allow themselves to become victims of as they are enticed by curiosity of drugs and the high they get from them or occult influences as it is all from the evil principalities of the prince of this world.
All you can do is pray for her that God would intervene in her life and cut through that shell and bring light to her again. Just love her and the rest of us need to be praying for her until she comes back to you again as the daughter you once knew.
This is my prayer for your daughter and a good scripture to stand on in times like this.
Lord God I pray 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 over this daughter and in the name of Jesus I bind the stronghold Satan has over her and by your name Jesus Satan must flee and that you bring restoration within her that she will be a light unto the nations as she lets your light shine through her. We lift her up to you God and place her in your hands as you break the chains of bondage she is confined under right now. I pray this in your name Jesus, amen.