Is Isis Just A Crisis Or Is This The Beginning Of The End?

[Themessengeroftruth]

What do you think?
Is isis just a crisis and after they fall the earth will remain the same
or is the scriptures being fulfilled by wolves who love to slay?
are all muslims anti christ? Is it possible that vile one spoken of by daniel the prophet to be a muslim?
What about the 7 year tribulation period? is isis fulfilling that?

I do not know about 7 years but 3.5 that i was told in that time the sheep will be brought to the slaughter
what do you believe?
whose interpretation of the end times is correct?
we all may have different beliefs which one is true?

My friends know and understand, the end is here and all the words of daniel and revelation will be fulfilled in this generation

The wolves pray before him but call out to another, they say we are fighting for the lord but deny The lord they think they are worshiping.
I saw a wolf a few days pour a bucket of cold blood on his head and call out in the name of the lord.
The great wolf is like the night with out crickets and all the creeping things of the night that bring forth noises, his steps are more quiet than silence, there is an midst around him so the king of the nation can not find him.
He flatteries his way and his people was given, he even has people from the nations that are his enemies.
by his flatteries the world is in a crisis but is he the destroyer? Who is the hatred of destruction? Whose Hate will cause destruction? what is it that is destroyed? where are the saints?

i heard a voice from the sky, the eagle said come i am hungry let us eat. She took me to the carcases of many people, but i said i know these men but i can not recall there names so i asked the eagle and the eagle said to me,

These are the saints of the most high, i asked her who killed them she said The man whose hatred was of the destruction, The man who flattered the nations, The man who took the nations by storm,

That little horn who caused 3 of the first horns to be plucked up by the roots,

I asked the eagle who is he?
She said The descendant of A false prophet, She said the descendant of an anti christ.

I said who? she said the words are sealed unto the time of the end. I said if the words are sealed than why did you tell me the death of the saints, She said because YOU ARE LIVING IN THE TIME OF THE END.

Then the eagle said to tarry here for a while for many more are coming here so we can eat for a long time.
I asked her how many and how long?

she said how many i can not tell you but i will say this they will be killed for a time times and a half of time and at the end of the 42 months i will vomit out all the saints i have eaten and they will rise from the earth and be with christ forever.

 

[Eugene]

Hi Brother Messenger, I don’t personally believe any of this is to occur until we see Israel attempting to sacrifice again which will be taken away thirty days prior to the 1260 days of the temptation to come upon the whole world, and they do not need a temple to sacrifice as many say. A dear brother in Christ said that in order to take away a sacrifice, there must be one offered.

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

 

[Sinthesis]

Eschatology is difficult enough without being whiplashed by worry over current events.

Act 5:34 - Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
Act 5:35 - And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
Act 5:36 - For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
Act 5:37 - After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
Act 5:38 - And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
Act 5:39 - But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.​

Who are the Islamic state serving? Only if you believe this so called Islamic state is doing the work of God should you be concerned. It should be obvious to any Christian that these murderers are not doing so at the behest of God.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Eschatology is difficult enough without being whiplashed by worry over current events.

This is how I feel. Lots of people I know think ISIS is a sign of the end times (and in my family's case I can't speak doubtfully about that without unintentionally creating conflict =/), but...a lot of people said the same about Hitler.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

You all spoke well but we all have our own belief of what the end will be like,but not all of our interpretation about the end is correct. So how do we know that isis is the end or is it just another crisis in the world? How do we know if our interpretation is correct?
all we can do is watch if we see things happen in the world which was told by another brethren we know it is true, if we see what we believe happening in the world we know our interpretation is true.

I believe that the leader of the isis is that little horn spoken of by daniel the prophet and he and his people will become even more powerful and soon he will set his heart against the sheep and kill all of gods people to whom it is appointed but Only time will tell who interpetation is correct or wrong, all we can do is watch

and i say ISIS is something we all should be watching, they are not a group to ignore and i think we all know this

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

Eschatology is difficult enough without being whiplashed by worry over current events.

Act 5:34 - Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
Act 5:35 - And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
Act 5:36 - For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
Act 5:37 - After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
Act 5:38 - And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
Act 5:39 - But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.​

Who are the Islamic state serving? Only if you believe this so called Islamic state is doing the work of God should you be concerned. It should be obvious to any Christian that these murderers are not doing so at the behest of God.

When i say doing the work of christ i do not mean righteousness, I mean fulfilling what was spoken of by daniel and the book of revelations in the scripture.

If a man told me 5 years ago that an terrorist group would become so powerful it would even have americans fighting for them i would say you are insane,

These events are not normal and i believe deep down in the hearts of many people who call upon the name of the lord they know that the end is very near

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

This is how I feel. Lots of people I know think ISIS is a sign of the end times (and in my family's case I can't speak doubtfully about that without unintentionally creating conflict =/), but...a lot of people said the same about Hitler.

true but hitler and this is kind of different, these people have basically people from all over the country flying to fight for them,
and more importantly they believe they are doing gods will.
there is a man calling him self the head of all muslims

those little things make this very different than hitler

 

[evenifigoalone]

Maybe so, but scriptures dealing with prophecies that have yet to happen are super hard to interpret, it's just complicated. There are so many theories out there that seem to fit, I don't know what to believe anymore. Whatever happens, God knows what He's doing

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

Maybe so, but scriptures dealing with prophecies that have yet to happen are super hard to interpret, it's just complicated. There are so many theories out there that seem to fit, I don't know what to believe anymore. Whatever happens, God knows what He's doing

Well it depends, If a man interpretation is backed by many scriptures from different pasages of the bible and he sees these things come to pass you know his interpretation was correct. I AM GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL

i had no idea about end times a year ago, the first thing that was told to me was around october 2013 and that was that the saints are going to be killed for a period of 3.5 years...

When i was reading the bible i did not understand but when i started listening to the bible (audio versions) its like my understanding opened up. You should listen to the bible and ask god for answers he will tell you thats what i did.

but anyway, all was told to me was the saints was gonna be killed for 3 and half years that was the first revelation i had
then i was searching for who that little horn was,
i had no idea i thought it was gonna be the iran leader, then i thought it was gonna be the president of the united states

BUT WHEN I FIRST READ ISIS ARTICLE BACK IN JUNE, I REMEMBER WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAID

AND IM TELLING YOU THE LEADER OF THAT GROUP MATCHES WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT HIM. IT MATCHES THE RIDDLE OF THE LITTLE HORN SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL THE PROPHET

 

[evenifigoalone]

There's also this thing called context. Lots of people cherry pick when finding scripture to support their end time views.
I'll reserve my judgment. Bible prophecy simply isn't my area, it confuses me. So I tend to take end time views with a grain of salt.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

There's also this thing called context. Lots of people cherry pick when finding scripture to support their end time views.
I'll reserve my judgment. Bible prophecy simply isn't my area.

Trust me, Listen to the bible instead of reading it, download the bible app and listen to it for a hour a day atleast,

or you can go to this website http://www.familyradio.org/bible-readings/audio/

or this website http://www.familyradio.org/continuous-bible-reading-audio/

this is all i did, im telling you, you gonna start to understand over time if you keep at it and if it is appointed, just try trust me

 

[Obadiah]

This is how I feel. Lots of people I know think ISIS is a sign of the end times (and in my family's case I can't speak doubtfully about that without unintentionally creating conflict =/), but...a lot of people said the same about Hitler.

As soon as I became a Christian people started telling me about the signs of the end times and how the things that are happening had fulfilled all the prophesies. Jesus could return any time. So many things are happening and so many world events saying these are the last days, and the anti-christ, yep he's here alright.

But that was 42 years ago, and every crisis was replaced by a new crisis, each new crisis being the last thing before Jesus comes back, each new anti-christ being the real one, the last one. Yet it hasn't happened. What all this has done is make me realize more than ever the truth of Matthew 24:36 (NIV in this case): "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 

[evenifigoalone]

I don't really want to be a part of the back and forth of this discussion. Honestly aside from my initial thoughts I have nothing of value to add. If I do form any end time views, they won't come quickly.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

As soon as I became a Christian people started telling me about the signs of the end times and how the things that are happening had fulfilled all the prophesies. Jesus could return any time. So many things are happening and so many world events saying these are the last days, and the anti-christ, yep he's here alright.

But that was 42 years ago, and every crisis was replaced by a new crisis, each new crisis being the last thing before Jesus comes back, each new anti-christ being the real one, the last one. Yet it hasn't happened. What all this has done is make me realize more than ever the truth of Matthew 24:36 (NIV in this case): "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

You right and this is why many are tired of hearing about the end times, And remember just when you think jesus is not coming there he is.

here is what i say, if i tell you, you might not believe but if god tells you u will believe.

when i was reading the bible i did not understand anything, i thought we just suppost to live and hope god dont come in my generation but when i started to hear the word of god it was different, it was like i understood almost everything.

just listen to the bible for a hour a day, download the app or go to those websites that i posted and im telling you the same thing im preaching you are going to be preaching. If you understand im 100 percent postive you will

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

I don't really want to be a part of the back and forth of this discussion. Honestly aside from my initial thoughts I have nothing of value to add. If I do form any end time views, they won't come quickly.

Trust me, Listen to the bible and you will understand all things if it is appointed just try. This is what i did and i found out all these things.

 

[evenifigoalone]

God grants different talents, gifts, and roles to different people. Whatever Good granted for you, He may have something different in mind for me.
I'd think the biggest concern would be fulfilling the great commission, personally. I'm not saying Bible prophecy is useless, it must be of some use if it's in scripture, but can't say I'm convinced it matters if I complete the rest of my life here on earth without ever understanding prophecy.

I don't want to be a part of this discussion.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

when you interpreting the end times doctrine.
There is a BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU READ AND INTERPRET AND YOU LISTEN AND INTERPRET

its like when you listen you begin to hear the same stuff said in different ways, Then when u start to understand the scriptures its like something changes inside you and then when u start to see what was told to you happen in real life, its a feeling u just cant describe. You just know god is so real and in so much control its not even funny

 

[Obadiah]

So you're convinced that the key for everyone to interpret end times scriptures the same way is to listen to an audio Bible rather than read a printed Bible? I admit I've never listened to one.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

God grants different talents, gifts, and roles to different people. Whatever Good granted for you, He may have something different in mind for me.
I'd think the biggest concern would be fulfilling the great commission, personally. I'm not saying Bible prophecy is useless, it must be of some use if it's in scripture, but can't say I'm convinced it matters if I complete the rest of my life here on earth without ever understanding prophecy.

I don't want to be a part of this discussion.

That is one of the wisest replies i have heard on this website, nether the less that does not mean you should not listen to the bible.

remember blessed is the man who walks not in the consil of the ungodly nor stands in the way of the sinners nor sit in the seat of the scornful but his delight is in the law of the lord and in his law he meditates day and night.

Mediate on gods words day and night, you dont know what gift you might receive, God told me the saints will die but he did not tell me who those 2 prophets are that are coming in the coming days, the ones spoken of in revelation 11.

he might tell you that, he just told me, one part and that is the death of the saints and the abomination of desolation.
remember the scriptures we know in part and we prophesy in part.

just listen to the bible man please im begging you

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

So you're convinced that the key for everyone to interpret end times scriptures the same way is to listen to an audio Bible rather than read a printed Bible? I admit I've never listened to one.

No im not saying that they will understand EVERYTHING IN ENDTIMES SCRIPTURE OR THE BIBLE. but i am saying this

its written faith comes by hearing and hearing of the word of the lord.
and how strange that when i use to read the bible i really did not understand

but when i started listening to the bible i understood all most everything.

Im telling you guys i believe the lord will tell many of you what he told me, instead of me saying this will happen and that will happen im gonna trust that the lord will tell you guys the same thing he told me..

and you gonna see what im talking about, you gonna understand why i know that man is the little horn the lord will tell his people

just go to those websites i posted and download the bible app listen to the king james version of it. but me personally i prefer listening of those websites but i do both some times i do the king james version bible app and other times i listen on that website.

just listen try for atleast 1 hour a day for a few months, just keep at it im telling you, you gonna become addicted, its like a drug and you become hooked thats what happened to me, im listening to the bible as i speak with u right now. im telling you its different than reading it its completely different.

Its like you in a a complete new world that u never knew exsisted