Is it a Sin - Stealing - to Copy CD's?

[John]

it's not like I went into a store & actually stole a product,

Stealing is still stealing, no matter how much one wants to sugar-coat it.

Move to Canada...our government says its legal..that is the guilt eraser. ;)

 

[jasoncran]

my old chruch pays the musicians that wrote the worships songs when they use them if they are copyrighted.

many arent.

 

[Nick]

it's not like I went into a store & actually stole a product,

Stealing is still stealing, no matter how much one wants to sugar-coat it.

Move to Canada...our government says its legal..that is the guilt eraser. ;)

So in Canada it is OK to take an artist's work and not pay for it?

 

[Mike]

So in Canada it is OK to take an artist's work and not pay for it?

I had no idea (I missed it, or forgot if John said it) that Canada had no laws against downloading music from file sharing sites.

I pulled this from http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Int ... oading.asp

"In Canada, for example, downloading copyright music from peer-to-peer networks is legal, but uploading those files is not. Canada has a private copying levy, which grants the right to make personal, noncommercial copies of sound recordings. Canada has imposed levies (fees) on recording mediums like blank CDs and similar items. These levies are used to fund musicians and songwriters for revenues lost due to consumer copying. For this reason, you do not see huge fines and court cases regarding illegally copied music in Canada, like you see in the U.S.A. Also, Canada initially charged this tax on MP3 players, but a recent Supreme Court decision ruled that the law was written in such a way that these players were exempt from the tax."

Here's a question for John or Kevin: How much do you pay for blank CD's in Canada?

So, I guess there wouldn't be the imposition of disobeying authorities if you live in Canada. Although I would still think there would be the moral dilemma of taking money from artists, especially Christian artists, since you're taking away from their ministry. But if you're not convicted of this, I guess this is a gray area that is individual in nature. interesting... You can't legally upload it, but you can legally download it. Leave it to the Canadians.

 

[jasoncran]

no, nick that suits what the u.s. army does a lot, issues gear and tell us not to wear it. :bigfrown

 

[John]

Here's a question for John or Kevin: How much do you pay for blank CD's in Canada?

I pay about 13$ for a few hundred blank CD;'s

. You can't legally upload it, but you can legally download it. Leave it to the Canadians.

Yup, You can download anything but only uploading it is illegal. You think that is bad? Look at our gun laws, lol

So that puts me down to 3 now right Mike? :eyebrow

 

[jasoncran]

liberalism run amok!

 

[Mike]

I pay about 13$ for a few hundred blank CD;'s

Yup, You can download anything but only uploading it is illegal. You think that is bad? Look at our gun laws, lol

So that puts me down to 3 now right Mike? :eyebrow

$13 for a few hundred CD's? So much for a levy to offset the losses by the artists.

Well, 3 that I know of... :shades

 

[John]

$13 for a few hundred CD's? So much for a levy to offset the losses by the artists.

Well lets not assume that every CD is used for music. I use mine only for data because i have an Ipod.

 

[Mike]

$13 for a few hundred CD's? So much for a levy to offset the losses by the artists.

Well lets not assume that every CD is used for music. I use mine only for data because i have an Ipod.

Yeah but:

Canada has imposed levies (fees) on recording mediums like blank CDs and similar items. These levies are used to fund musicians and songwriters for revenues lost due to consumer copying. For this reason, you do not see huge fines and court cases regarding illegally copied music in Canada, like you see in the U.S.A. Also, Canada initially charged this tax on MP3 players, but a recent Supreme Court decision ruled that the law was written in such a way that these players were exempt from the tax."[/b]

Alls I'm sayin' is they don't seem to be doing what this article said they do. I thought it would be like buying cigarettes where you'd have all kinds of crazy taxes imposed. Since you're just a suburb of the U.S., we should be able to impose anything we want on you anyway. Only a matter of time until all 20 of you just have a straw vote to hand over all the wasted space. :toofunny