Hospes
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JLB,What "you mean" by sons of God and what the scripture teach us, sons of God are is where the issue is.
You have shown this Forum over and over that you intend "redefine" and "re-package" biblical definitions to fit your man conceived doctrine.
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:4-7
- The sons of God were angels who were present with the Lord during creation.
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord. And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
Job 2:1-2
- Again the sons of God were before the Lord, and were not on earth... as Satan had come from the earth to where they were.
35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36
- ... equal to the angels and are sons of God.
Peter refers to the angels who were disobedient during the days of Noah, and were responsible for bringing God's Judgement upon the earth by the flood.
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. Genesis 6:1-2
- and again
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 1 Peter 3:18-20
- Jude also warns us the fate of angels, as sons of God...
But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; Jude 5-6
... the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, is a direct reference to Genesis 6 -
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
- those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
...for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Angels are sons of God, and were cast down to hell.
Those who were directly created by God are sons of God, as he is the Father of spirits, being their creator, just as Adam was created by God, and is called a son of God. Luke 3:38 - the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Asking a point of clarification:
Are you making an equivalence of those humans whom God ultimately saves with angels? Another way of asking , if I end up in heaven via salvation through Christ, are you proposing I will join Gabriel, Michael, etc. as one of them? If not, could you spell out the differences between those who are saved through the Gospel to the un-fallen angels who are servants of God?
Thanks.
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