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IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

stovebolts said:
We know Paul wrote to the church in Rome and we know Peter was in Rome. Honestly, I’m almost afraid to search the YouTube video you want me to watch. I can only begin to imagine the false information contained within it, but I am certain it makes the church in Rome the antichrist and harlot.
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Living by imagin is not knowing and not learning. It is just blind after a believe. And specially a believe that cannot answered questions BIBLICAL!! I have learned by Jesus to digging deep very deep in any beliefs to see if they are conforming the Bible.
 
Let's keep this on topic as any discussions about the Roman Catholic Church and end times needs to be a different thread started in the End Times forum, thank you.
 
This OP is about the Trinity, not about Rome or the catholic church as that needs to be a different thread. Please stay on topic or your replies about Rome and the catholic church will be deleted. Thank you.
 
JLB said:
Did Jesus say He was not God?


Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:56-59


The Jews understood what He was claiming about Himself.


Do you?




JLB
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I think we may be talking past each other here. And maybe agreeing.. because everything you say here i believe too.
Just many here are strongly debating the trinity and if Jesus is son of God separately or if Jesus is God father. And they are exactly the same.

For me that seems to be a great mystery, and i must confess that i do not complet understand it.
I am not even shure that anyone of us can really comprehend this..
So i choose to belive what the Bible says that i can grasp. This i can't grasp. At least not yet..
Shalom:)
 
JLB said:
Did Jesus say He was not God?


Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:56-59


The Jews understood what He was claiming about Himself.


Do you?




JLB
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He didn't say He was not God. He is! But God the son. Not God the father.
What do you think about that?
God bless!
 
for_his_glory said:
This OP is about the Trinity, not about Rome or the catholic church as that needs to be a different thread. Please stay on topic or your replies about Rome and the catholic church will be deleted. Thank you.
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If I speak about the Trinity I must begin by its roots. Just like if I begin by the Sabbath, I begin by the 7th day of creation. You can delete God TRUE WORDS or banner me, but there will be a day to respond to God why that you are against HIS TRUTH BIBLICAL TEACHINGS. And also cannot answered any questions that I have ask you BIBLICAL. Whatever that you do is good. Your own choice.
 
Pipiripi said:
If I speak about the Trinity I must begin by its roots. Just like if I begin by the Sabbath, I begin by the 7th day of creation. You can delete God TRUE WORDS or banner me, but there will be a day to respond to God why that you are against HIS TRUTH BIBLICAL TEACHINGS. And also cannot answered any questions that I have ask you BIBLICAL. Whatever that you do is good. Your own choice.
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Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

That verse clearly answers the question in the OP. Jesus Christ is God!!!

Yet we need to ask our selves, if He is the Lord, to us personally??

If He is our Lord we will make it about seeking Him!!!

It is written that His sheep hear His voice, and something over and over about "Today, if you hear His voice".

“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE (Heb 3:7, 3:15, 4:7)

Jesus also told some that they searched the Scriptures thinking in them they had eternal life instead of coming to Him so they might life.

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Let me explain what I am getting at: If He is indeed the Lord our God then we are seeking Him "Today" and listening to what He has to say to us personally "Today". If we are doing that the the day mentioned in the quote above " there will be a day to respond to God " is Today! If "Today" we are talking and listening to Him then He is the Word of God to us!

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

However if we don't choose to actually listen to Him "Today" then we "the word of God" to us will have to become the lines upon lines of text in the Bible, and that we result in us being taken captive.

Is 28:13,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary, ”And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen. So the word of the LORD to them will be, “Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a little there,” That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

Now I meet people who like to say 'What the Lord say to you will match up with the Word of God', but that is backwards!!!

They should be saying "That the Word of God matches up with the Scriptures"

If they listened to Him they would understand what I am saying. I am saying that Jesus Christ our Lord speaks to us, in that His sheep do indeed hear His voice, and His voice matches up with what we see written in the Bible. Of course not exactly! For example, He once asked me to open up a Christian bookstore for Him, but He never asked me to bring the Israelites out of Egypt and a part the red sea. So to try and read the Bible to find out what you need to do is the wrong approach. To think that "one day" as opposed to "Today", that you will hear His voice is wrong - according to the Bible!

It just not BIBLICAL to put the Bible before the Lord!

That is to say: That a Bible thumper is trying to live by their understanding of the Bible. Where as a person who know the Lord is being taught by Him, via that small voice of His. He then becomes their teacher and thus the Word of God to them. As our Teacher, He uses the Bible like the textbook, it was meant to be. Thus we wind up knowing Him as our Teacher, our Lord, our God, the Word of God, our Savior, our Wonderful Counselor, and the One who talks to us "Today." That is all explained in the Bible, but we know and understanding it because we hear His voice.

Proverbs 2:6 For the Lord gives wisdom: from his mouth come knowledge and understanding

My friends; knowledge and understanding does not come from the book, they comes from listening to that small still voice of the Lord our God, Jesus Christ
 
Pipiripi said:
If I speak about the Trinity I must begin by its roots. Just like if I begin by the Sabbath, I begin by the 7th day of creation. You can delete God TRUE WORDS or banner me, but there will be a day to respond to God why that you are against HIS TRUTH BIBLICAL TEACHINGS. And also cannot answered any questions that I have ask you BIBLICAL. Whatever that you do is good. Your own choice.
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I will only delete the words of your god/prophetess Ellen G. Getty-White as the Trinity does not come from any teachings of the Catholic Church, but by the word of the one and only true God only in the beginning.

With what everyone has given to you by quoting scripture, which you refuse to read and study, do you think what you are trying to teach is true by that of what a self proclaimed prophetess has written and the rest of us are liars? Many of us know the roots of the SDA, LDS and the whole Mormon beginnings, which you also refuse to believe as you have unknowingly allowed Satan to cloud your mind with all those false teachings. Just know those teachings will be deleted.

I am sure you have a heart for the Lord and what we are telling you is done in love towards you as we are concerned for your very soul.
 
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