ManofGod said:
You know since I have heard some controversies concerning this statement. I believe that Jesus Christ God. Not just the Son of God but He is God that came in the flesh.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
As we continue to read on in that chapter we see that this scripture is talking about Jesus Christ..
What do you think?
Contrary to what many believe, the God of the Old Testament is not the one most have come to know as God the Father. The God of the OT is in fact, Jesus Christ. But how many scriptures does it take to prove this fact? Let’s read the following scripture from the OT.
Zech.12
[10] And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
So we have the God of the OT speaking about a future time when He will be "pierced", mourned for as an "only son" and shall be in bitterness as for his "firstborn"
Convinced yet? Probably not. Well let's do as we are told by the holy scriptures;
“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.†John 5:39
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.†1Thes.5:21
“…make full proof of thy ministry.†2 Tim.4:5
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:†2 Tim.3:16
So who was it that spoke those things in Zech? Let's find out. Let's see if all that God said would happen to Him actually did.
John.19
[34] But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
[37] And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced. (Sounds familiar?)
Rev.1
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
So it was Jesus Christ that was "pierced". Let's read more;
John.1
[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John.3
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It was Jesus Christ that was called the, "only begotten Son". Here is more;
Col.1
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Rom.8
[29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
And finally, it was Jesus Christ that was called the "firstborn".
Now the God of the OT said ALL of these things would happen to HIM. And as we just read, each and everything He said would happen did. Now who did ALL of these things happen to? Jesus Christ!
Now if what you read above is not enough, here is more proof that Jesus Christ is the ONLY God man has ever known, and He IS the God of the Old Testament.
Just how many times must we read it? Let's find out and read a few verses for ourselves;
John.1
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
The "him" here is Jesus Christ. Without Him was not anything made that was made. So that means the one that said, “Let there be lightâ€, was in fact Jesus. That's ONE.
Col.1
[16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Again, the "him" here is Jesus Christ. ALL things were created by him. So who was it that made man? The same one that DIED for man; Jesus Christ. That's TWO!
Hebrews (1:1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
(2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.
So it was "his Son" that made the worlds. That's THREE!
Ephesians (3:9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
So ALL things were created by Jesus Christ. That's FOUR!
Pss.110
[1] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark.12
[36] For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Luke 20
[41] And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
[44] David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
David's Lord is now sitting on the right hand of THE Lord. And who did David call Lord? The one that is also called David’s son…Jesus Christ! That's FIVE
1Cor.10
[1] Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
[2] And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
[3] And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
[4] And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
So the same God that followed the nation of Israel in the wilderness, helped them pass through the Red Sea, taught and fed them was Christ. That’s SIX!
Eph.3
[9] And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
What may have been a mystery is again cleared up by Paul. ALL things were created by Jesus Christ. That’s SEVEN!
Let’s go back to Exodus (OT) and examine a conversation Moses was having with God.
Here Moses is asking that the Lord take his name out of the Book of Life.
Exd. 32
[31] And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
[32] Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin-; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of
thy book which thou has written.
[33] And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will
I blot out of my book.
Now let’s go to the (NT) in the book of Revelation and see who will be blotting names out of the Book of Life.
Rev. 3
[5] He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white rainment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels
So it was Jesus Christ that Moses spoke to in the Old Testament and asked to blot his name out of the book of life. That’s EIGHT!
In this next passage of the (OT), Abraham is asking the Lord to spare the city of Sodom.
Gen.18
[24] Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
[25] That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Now let’s find out who it is that will judge “…all the earth…“, and who gave him the authority. Let us go to St. John (NT) and read what Jesus has to say on the matter.
St. John 5
[22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son;
[26] For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given unto the Son to have life in himself.
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgement also, because he is the Son of man.
So it will NOT be the Father that judges the earth. It will be His Son, Jesus Christ. Again, it was Jesus Christ that Abraham spoke to in the OT. That’s NINE!
Phil 2:5-8.
[5] Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
[6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
We see that the one that is known as the Father is EQUAL to the one known as the Son. Now we see how they are truly ONE. That's TEN!
Just how many times must we read that Jesus Christ is truly the God of the Old Testament? Examples such as these can be found throughout the entire bible, you only have to search. This is just (10) of MANY!
Now we know NO MAN has EVER heard God the Father at anytime, because Jesus said so;
John.5
[37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
But SOMEONE had to say, "Let there be Light"! Let's find that someone;
John.1
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
So when we read that Jesus was the "Word" and the “Word†was God, He literally was the God that spoke the "Words" that brought everything into existence.
Now I’m sure some reading this are saying, “Surly at some time man has come into contact with God the Father.†Well, according to the words spoken by Jesus Christ Himself…NO! Let’s read, again, what our High Priest has to say about it;
St. John 5
[37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
St. John 6
[46] Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
So, along with all of the verses we just read above, we have the words of Jesus Christ telling us no man has EVER heard the voice of the Father, nor seen His shape at ANYTIME!!
Now will there ever be a time when man will come into contact with God the Father? Of course there will. Let’s read when that time will be;
Rev.21
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
God the Father will not have any contact with us until ALL is complete and ALL are spirit beings like Himself. Which is why the scriptures says;
1Cor.15
[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,
Until that time, the ONLY God man will ever know is Jesus Chrit.
Jesus Christ truly is, “… the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.†Heb.13:8
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