Yes, it is. Yet many teach it. I even accepted it for decades.That is a very bizarre thought.
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Yes, it is. Yet many teach it. I even accepted it for decades.That is a very bizarre thought.
come to think of that some here have posted that. amateur theologians. been there, but not with that. one cant study the bible effectively and be that rigidYes, it is. Yet many teach it. I even accepted it for decades.
No, you are totally 100% wrong, Period!I asked you why you said god is god, the son is god and the holy spirit is god. then you argued. kathi just stated the correct position.
God is GOD? I was looking for the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. that is why I asked which of the persons of the trinity died on the cross. to see if you noticed that mistake.No, you are totally 100% wrong, Period!
Kathi said what you wanted to hear, and I didn't say what you wanted to hear.
That is the 100% truth!
Rollo am I wrong?Three persons but one God?No, you are totally 100% wrong, Period!
Kathi said what you wanted to hear, and I didn't say what you wanted to hear.
That is the 100% truth!
Jason, I see you distinguishing the 3 as though they don't belong together.God is GOD? I was looking for the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. that is why I asked which of the persons of the trinity died on the cross. to see if you noticed that mistake.
You are right.Rollo am I wrong?Three persons but one God?
God did not commit suicide because he rose again.Yes, it is. Yet many teach it. I even accepted it for decades.
that implies the father doesn't know ALL. he made emotions. he sees the future. he doesn't have to feel us to know our thoughts. that means unity in nature not unity in feeling the body. when jesus is in us and we are one with the father? does that mean God feels us when we have sex? he doesn't have to know that by feeling it. he created it.Jason, I see you distinguishing the 3 as though they don't belong together.
Jesus feels the pain, the other 2 don't.
Therefore, a part of God doesn't really know what the other part is going through.
When Jesus said, "the Father and I are one", it has to mean more than what you are expressing right now.
Sorry that is too deep for me.You are saying that you are wrong?With your bizarre wit I can't figure this out.You are right.
Jason is right.
I am misunderstood.
Okay, give me Scripture to show me that God the Father and the Holy spirit did not feel the pain Jesus felt?that implies the father doesn't know ALL. he made emotions. he sees the future. he doesn't have to feel us to know our thoughts. that means unity in nature not unity in feeling the body. when jesus eats and we are one the father? does that mean God feels us when we have sex? he doesn't have to know that by feeling it. he created it.
I did NOT agree with elijah23's comment about "God the Father, decided to come to earth as a human being". I did not say "correct" to that comment, and then I explained how it isn't possible for God the Father to be God the Son.What are you saying, we have 2 Gods?
Yes, that is exactly what you are saying and that is a heresy!
show me where it says that specifically.Okay, give me Scripture to show me that God the Father and the Holy spirit did not feel the pain Jesus felt?
If you can't find anything, then what you are saying is your opinion.
If "a part of God doesn't really know what the other part is going through", then God cannot be omniscient. I disagree with your statement.Jason, I see you distinguishing the 3 as though they don't belong together.
Jesus feels the pain, the other 2 don't.
Therefore, a part of God doesn't really know what the other part is going through.
When Jesus said, "the Father and I are one", it has to mean more than what you are expressing right now.
I see this as wrong because God is God and Jesus is God but they are two different persons.God did not have to come to earth as Jesus.Rollo, your post apparently missed some context.
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Jesus is God in flesh. In other words, God, the Father, decided to come to earth as a human being, so he did so in the person of Jesus Christ.
Correct. Jesus on earth frequently prayed to His Father in Heaven. God the Father did not decide to come to earth as a human being. And God the Father spoke to His Son several times. They are two distinct Persons.
I did NOT agree with elijah23's comment about "God the Father, decided to come to earth as a human being". I did not say "correct" to that comment, and then I explained how it isn't possible for God the Father to be God the Son.
And to clarify, my view is triune. One God in essence; Three Persons, all in complete harmony.
that means he is in unity. we are one with the father as well. he dwell in us. and in nature. that doesn't support the idea of yours that he has to feel what the son felt. so god would have to know what death is to know that we needed him to die for us?Listen, all of you.
If you want to believe that Jesus and God are not one, then that's your business.
John 10:30;
"I and the Father are one".
Go ahead, explain it away, show me how wrong I understand the verse, I expect that from all of you.
Rollo I want you to tell me what you believe.Do you think that God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are all God but three distinct persons or do you think they are one person?Listen, all of you.
If you want to believe that Jesus and God are not one, then that's your business.
John 10:30;
"I and the Father are one".
Go ahead, explain it away, show me how wrong I understand the verse, I expect that from all of you.
Kathi, who are you responding to? Rollo's post wasn't all clear. What is wrong? I have clearly maintained that God the Father and God the Son are not the same.I see this as wrong because God is God and Jesus is God but they are two different persons.God did not have to come to earth as Jesus.