Is Your Baby Gay? What If You Could Know?

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Here is a blog from of my favorite commentators, Al Mohler...There is much to discuss here...Enjoy




What if you could know that your unborn baby boy is likely to be sexually attracted to other boys? Beyond that, what if hormonal treatments could change the baby's orientation to heterosexual? Would you do it? Some scientists believe that such developments are just around the corner.

For some time now, scientists have been looking for a genetic or hormonal cause of sexual orientation. Thus far, no "gay gene" has been found -- at least not in terms of incontrovertible and accepted science. Yet, it is now claimed that a growing body of evidence indicates that biological factors may at least contribute to sexual orientation.

The most interesting research along these lines relates to the study of sheep. Scientists at the U.S. Sheep Experiment Station are conducting research into the sexual orientation of sheep through "sexual partner preference testing." As William Saletan at Slate.com explains:

A bare majority of rams turn out to be heterosexual. One in five swings both ways. About 15 percent are asexual, and 7 percent to 10 percent are gay.

Why so many gay rams? Is it too much socializing with ewes? Same-sex play with other lambs? Domestication? Nope. Those theories have been debunked. Gay rams don't act girly. They're just as gay in the wild. And a crucial part of their brains--the "sexually dimorphic nucleus"--looks more like a ewe's trhan like a straight ram's. Gay men have a similar brain resemblance to women. Charles Roselli, the project's lead scientist, says such research "strongly suggests that sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans."

What makes the sheep "sexual partner preference testing" research so interesting is that the same scientists who are documenting the rather surprising sexual behaviors of male sheep think they can also change the sexual orientation of the animals. In other words, finding a biological causation for homosexuality may also lead to the discovery of a "cure" for the same phenomenon.

That's where the issue gets really interesting. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals [PETA] has called for an end to the research, while tennis star Martina Navratilova called the research "homophobic and cruel" and argued that gay sheep have a "right" to be homosexual. No kidding.

Homosexual activists were among the first to call for (and fund) research into a biological cause of homosexuality. After all, they argued, the discovery of a biological cause would lead to the normalization of homosexuality simply because it would then be seen to be natural, and thus moral.

But now the picture is quite different. Many homosexual activists recognize that the discovery of a biological marker or cause for homosexual orientation could lead to efforts to eliminate the trait, or change the orientation through genetic or hormonal treatments.

Tyler Gray addresses these issues in the current issue of Radar magazine. In "Is Your Baby Gay?," Gray sets out a fascinating scenario. A woman is told that her unborn baby boy is gay. This woman and her husband consider themselves to be liberal and tolerant of homosexuality. But this is not about homosexuality now, it is about their baby boy. The woman is then told that a hormone patch on her abdomen will "reverse the sexual orientation inscribed in his chromosomes." The Sunday Times [London] predicts that such a patch should be available for use on humans within the decade. Will she use it?

This question stands at the intersection of so many competing interests. Feminists and political liberals have argued for decades now that a woman should have an unrestricted right to an abortion, for any cause or for no stated cause at all. How can they now complain if women decide to abort fetuses identified as homosexual? This question involves both abortion and gay rights -- the perfect moral storm of our times.

Homosexual activists have claimed that sexual orientation cannot be changed. What if a hormone patch during pregnancy will do the job?

As Gray suggests:

In a culture that encourages us to customize everything from our Nikes to our venti skinny lattes, perhaps it is only a matter of time before baby-making becomes just another consumer transaction. Already have a girl? Make this one a boy! Want to impress your boho friends? Make a real statement with lesbian twins!

More to the point, Gray understands that such a development would reshape the abortion and gay-rights debates in America:

Conservatives opposed to both abortion and homosexuality will have to ask themselves whether the public shame of having a gay child outweighs the private sin of terminating a pregnancy (assuming the stigma on homosexuality survives the scientific refutation of the Right's treasured belief that it is a "lifestyle choice." Pro-choice activists won't be spared either. Will liberal moms who love their hairdressers be as tolerant when faced with the prospect of raising a little stylist of their own? And exactly how pro-choice will liberal abortion-rights activists be when thousands of potential parents are choosing to filter homosexuality right out of the gene pool?

The development of Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis [PDG] is one of the greatest threats to human dignity in our times. These tests are already leading to the abortion of fetuses identified as carrying unwanted genetic markers. The tests can now check for more than 1,300 different chromosomal abnormalities or patterns. With DNA analysis, the genetic factors could be identified right down to hair and eye color and other traits. The logic is all too simple. If you don't like what you see on the PDG report . . . just abort and start over. Soon, genetic treatments may allow for changing the profile. Welcome to the world of designer babies.

If that happens, how many parents -- even among those who consider themselves most liberal -- would choose a gay child? How many parents, armed with this diagnosis, would use the patch and change the orientation?

Christians who are committed to think in genuinely Christian terms should think carefully about these points:

1. There is, as of now, no incontrovertible or widely accepted proof that any biological basis for sexual orientation exists.

2. Nevertheless, the direction of the research points in this direction. Research into the sexual orientation of sheep and other animals, as well as human studies, points to some level of biological causation for sexual orientation in at least some individuals.

3. Given the consequences of the Fall and the effects of human sin, we should not be surprised that such a causation or link is found. After all, the human genetic structure, along with every other aspect of creation, shows the pernicious effects of the Fall and of God's judgment.

4. The biblical condemnation of all homosexual behaviors would not be compromised or mitigated in the least by such a discovery. The discovery of a biological factor would not change the Bible's moral verdict on homosexual behavior.

5. The discovery of a biological basis for homosexuality would be of great pastoral significance, allowing for an greater understanding of why certain persons struggle with these particular sexual temptations.

6. The biblical basis for establishing the dignity of all persons -- the fact that all humans are made in God's image -- reminds us that this means all persons, including those who may be marked by a predisposition toward homosexuality. For the sake of clarity, we must insist at all times that all persons -- whether identified as heterosexuals, homosexuals, lesbians, transsexuals, transgendered, bisexual, or whatever -- are equally made in the image of God.

7. Thus, we will gladly contend for the right to life of all persons, born and unborn, whatever their sexual orientation. We must fight against the idea of aborting fetuses or human embryos identified as homosexual in orientation.

8. If a biological basis is found, and if a prenatal test is then developed, and if a successful treatment to reverse the sexual orientation to heterosexual is ever developed, we would support its use as we should unapologetically support the use of any appropriate means to avoid sexual temptation and the inevitable effects of sin.

9. We must stop confusing the issues of moral responsibility and moral choice. We are all responsible for our sexual orientation, but that does not mean that we freely and consciously choose that orientation. We sin against homosexuals by insisting that sexual temptation and attraction are predominately chosen. We do not always (or even generally) choose our temptations. Nevertheless, we are absolutely responsible for what we do with sinful temptations, whatever our so-called sexual orientation.

10. Christians must be very careful not to claim that science can never prove a biological basis for sexual orientation. We can and must insist that no scientific finding can change the basic sinfulness of all homosexual behavior. The general trend of the research points to at least some biological factors behind sexual attraction, gender identity, and sexual orientation. This does not alter God's moral verdict on homosexual sin (or heterosexual sin, for that matter), but it does hold some promise that a deeper knowledge of homosexuality and its cause will allow for more effective ministries to those who struggle with this particular pattern of temptation. If such knowledge should ever be discovered, we should embrace it and use it for the greater good of humanity and for the greater glory of God.

http://www.albertmohler.com/blog.php
 
Woh, crazy!

If doctors told me the baby I was going to have would be gay, I wouldn't have the hormones to 'fix' it.

I pray I never have to face the trial of discovering my child is gay but I couldn't bring myself to try and 'fix it' like this.

Imagine the miracle if God sorted it further down the line, or if the child is gay all their life but still lives for Christ and resists the temptation. There are so many possibilities, I kinda like to trust to God rather than trying to fix it myself.

Oh, and I would definetly not abort as I am against abortion. I don't think the 'private sin' of abortion would be possible to live with.

It kinda scares me how science is advancing this way.
 
In the not-so-distant-future we'll be able to "cure" anything. And I mean anything.
Talk about pro-choice! :o

Bio-engineering. The possibilities are endless.
:o
 
Interesting. I can't wait to see what other things we can accomplish in the future(everything in Star Trek)!
 
Dr. Charles Roselli had been accused of trying to cure gay sheep. I've read articles claiming he isolated the gene/s and by extracting the gene during early stages of development was able to "cure" the animal and be born "straight". On the other hand I've read articles that isn't true. Thing is Dr. Charles Roselli isn't saying anything or much at all.
Then the story gets out that the gay rights activists wanted the research done to prove being gay is biological but when it's claimed that proof is found and may be treated through more research they became outraged and wanted the research stopped.

Regardless of the truth in this matter it does show where we are headed. Like I said, the possibilities are endless and there's no way anyone will stop research concerning bio-engineering. Once a technology is discovered it's never put on a shelf and forgotten. Under the guise of finding cures for various diseases and disorders, which in itself is very noble, that research also encompasses study to alter whatever it is that's under scrutiny. And we love aleration, options and choice. Science will deliver that sooner or later, it's just a matter of time. It's what people call "progress".
 
dancing queen said:
Woh, crazy! . . .

It kinda scares me how science is advancing this way.

Hi,

Yes, I think scientist without God will eventually make an image of the beast that can talk.
 
stranger said:
Hi,

Yes, I think scientist without God will eventually make an image of the beast that can talk.
Amen

The fact is that each one of us are born with tendencies to gravitate toward sin. Being gay is no different. Some people are born with a sin nature toward pedophilia, murder, theft, etc. etc.

It is all sin and if science thinks they can pull someone out of the sin nature they are crazy. Fact is that some people are going to manifest their sinful nature in homosexuality. They need the forgiveness of Jesus Christ for this, not some lu-lu scientist that thinks he can cure sin.
 
PotLuck said:
Regardless of the truth in this matter it does show where we are headed. Like I said, the possibilities are endless and there's no way anyone will stop research concerning bio-engineering. Once a technology is discovered it's never put on a shelf and forgotten. Under the guise of finding cures for various diseases and disorders, which in itself is very noble, that research also encompasses study to alter whatever it is that's under scrutiny. And we love aleration, options and choice. Science will deliver that sooner or later, it's just a matter of time. It's what people call "progress".

sadly, not all motion is progress.

dancing queen said:
Imagine the miracle if God sorted it further down the line, or if the child is gay all their life but still lives for Christ and resists the temptation. There are so many possibilities, I kinda like to trust to God rather than trying to fix it myself.

i totally agree! great post dancing queen.
 
waitinontheLamb said:
Amen

The fact is that each one of us are born with tendencies to gravitate toward sin. Being gay is no different. Some people are born with a sin nature toward pedophilia, murder, theft, etc. etc.

I completely disagree with your statement. Yes, we are born with sin, but not with specific sins that lean to one way as you say. That is a personal choice, as is homosuxuality, murder or any other choice.


It is all sin and if science thinks they can pull someone out of the sin nature they are crazy. Fact is that some people are going to manifest their sinful nature in homosexuality. They need the forgiveness of Jesus Christ for this, not some lu-lu scientist that thinks he can cure sin.


Agree with you here!
 
Jeff - we are all born with a sin nature - however, I do believe that Satan knows which "buttons to push" in an attempt to get us to sin.

For example, I have never been influenced by alcohol or drugs, murder, or theft. Yet there are other 'sins' that I need to fight against through the help of the Holy Spirit.

I believe there are certain temptations that trigger us.
 
aLoneVoice said:
Jeff - we are all born with a sin nature - however, I do believe that Satan knows which "buttons to push" in an attempt to get us to sin.

For example, I have never been influenced by alcohol or drugs, murder, or theft. Yet there are other 'sins' that I need to fight against through the help of the Holy Spirit.

I believe there are certain temptations that trigger us.

Yes, I agree with this 100%
 
Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree with this. If I am born and am adopted by homosexuals it is probably certain that I will grow up to be one. If I am born and live with a family of crooks it is almost certain that I will rob a bank in the future. If that is what you mean then I am also with you!
 
Jeff Mills said:
Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree with this.

OK

If I am born and am adopted by homosexuals it is probably certain that I will grow up to be one.
I agree to a certain extent...At the very list you will grow up accepting homosexuality as normal....but may not embrace it for yourself....
If I am born and live with a family of crooks it is almost certain that I will rob a bank in the future.
True that...


If that is what you mean then I am also with you!

Then you are with me....
 
Jeff Mills said:
Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree with this. If I am born and am adopted by homosexuals it is probably certain that I will grow up to be one.

If I am not mistaken, homosexual couples do not have adoption rights. I might be wrong - but I do not think you are going to be adopted. However, I have not heard of any reports that make the link you claim. Most likely what would happen is that the child would grow up accepting homosexual lifestyle.

If I am born and live with a family of crooks it is almost certain that I will rob a bank in the future. If that is what you mean then I am also with you!
Possibly, if the family brings you along, or teaches you that it is okay to rob banks.

My father drank and smoked - yet I have never smoked a cigarette and I am not an alcoholic. And yet my 'personal demons' (if you will) are nothing that my parents deal with.

I believe that we have proclivities (sp?) that our sin nature operates out of - once we understand our proclivities we can use that information to help us avoid those areas that we struggle with.
 
:-D You are forgetting one item:If you are a sinner by nature explain how you are quilty of that sin?Who created you........God?Who gave you that nature?Did you?

If you have no choice then you are not quilty period. A God that punishes someone for being born a certain way in which they had absolutely no choice in is not a God to worship but one to shun.
 
fcs25 said:
:-D You are forgetting one item:If you are a sinner by nature explain how you are quilty of that sin?Who created you........God?Who gave you that nature?Did you?

If you have no choice then you are not quilty period. A God that punishes someone for being born a certain way in which they had absolutely no choice in is not a God to worship but one to shun.
All are born sinners. All are born condemned. All have a choice; to remain condemned and continue in the lifestyle of whatever sin appeals to one, or to repent, believe in Jesus Christ, and follow him throughout the remainder of the time on earth with eternal life ahead. Once sinners become born again, they are no longer under the bondage of sin whether it be homosexuality, murder, stealing, etc.
 
fcs25 said:
:-D You are forgetting one item:If you are a sinner by nature explain how you are quilty of that sin?Who created you........God?Who gave you that nature?Did you?

If you have no choice then you are not quilty period. A God that punishes someone for being born a certain way in which they had absolutely no choice in is not a God to worship but one to shun.
Who ever said that God created the sin?

God created perfection and mankind introduced sin into it. God very graciously then gave us a way to be redeemed from it.

And to say that we don't have a choice is ludicrous. Even if one person does have homosexual feelings, they certainly can choose to not act on them.

Many people claim that they are naturally pedophilic but that does not make the action right. People have to choose to act on the temptation to sin wether it be stealing, murder, rape, pride, or even homosexuality. Having a temptation come over you does not excuse your jumping into the sin and to blame it on God is wrong.
 
UPDATE: From Al Mohler.....I have highlighted a few things in the beginning of the article in the hopes that folks will read the whole article...
http://www.albertmohler.com/blog.php




Was it Something I Said? Continuing to Think About Homosexuality

Posted: Friday, March 16, 2007 at 1:29 am ET
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Well, never doubt the power of the media. My recent article on homosexuality ignited a firestorm in the public square. Why? We may never know -- but the controversy represents both a challenge and an opportunity.

Several thoughts:

I must admit much frustration about the way many in the media have handled the issue. Headlines proclaimed "Seminary President Says Babies Born Gay" -- something I neither believe nor said. Other articles and reports claimed that I suggested that homosexuality may be genetic in origin and that genetic therapies should be used to create customized and corrected babies. I never even mentioned genetic therapies or germ-line experiments, and I am adamantly opposed to genetic therapies of such a sort -- real or hypothetical. Reading these reports and headlines was a painful and exasperating experience. If I believed those things attributed to me, I would not agree with myself and would condemn myself.

I am even more frustrated with many conservative Christians who read the secular headlines without even bothering to read my article. They jumped to conclusions that I do not hold and castigated me for advocating things I have opposed all my life. I have received a great deal of hate mail from those identifying themselves as homosexuals outraged that I believe homosexual acts to be unconditionally sinful. But I also received mail that can only be described as hateful from those who identified themselves as Christians -- people who clearly had never read my article and simply jumped to conclusions or accepted misrepresentations. Furthermore, some who identified themselves as Christians spoke of homosexuality and homosexuals with hate-filled language that literally made me shudder. Do we really love sinners? Do we not understand ourselves to be sinners saved by grace?

I have been gratified by those who have articulated serious concerns, but who later, after reading my actual article, expressed gratitude for a serious attempt to think through these urgent issues from a biblical perspective.

There is no way that I can answer the avalanche of questions and issues individually, but here are a few thoughts that might help us think together.

To my fellow evangelical Christians:

1. Let's get this straight -- God's condemnation of sin is not determined by science, but by God's Word. The Bible could not be more clear -- all forms of homosexual behavior are expressly condemned as sin. In so doing the Bible uses its strongest vocabulary and places this condemnation in the larger context of the Creator's rightful expectation of our stewardship of the sexual gift. All manifestations of homosexuality are thus representations of human sinfulness and rebellion against God's express will. Nothing can alter this fact, and no discovery in science or any other human endeavor can change God's verdict.

2. There is no conclusive research that indicates any biological basis for sexual orientation. But -- and this is a big "if" here -- if science were ever to discover a correlation or causation with biological factors, Christians should not be surprised. We believe in the catastrophic and comprehensive effects of the Fall and God's judgment upon sin.

3. Such a discovery, if it were to be accepted, would not change God's condemnation of all forms of homosexual behavior, nor would it mean that this represents the inviolable "identity" of any individual. As I argued previously, moral responsibility does not require absolute moral choice. A soldier in battle may not have chosen to be in a situation of moral anguish, but he is still absolutely responsible for his decisions and actions. Those who commit homosexual acts, whoever they are and whatever their biological profile, are absolutely responsible for their sin. Regardless of any actual or hypothetical orientation, those who commit same-sex acts are responsible for the choice to commit the sinful act. Those who claim that they did not choose their sexual attraction are nevertheless fully responsible for choosing to perform sexual acts the Bible condemns as sin -- period.

4. Some Christians seem absolutely convinced that there is no such thing as sexual orientation. There is a point to be made here. No "orientation" can alter the sinful status of sinful acts. Some have written me to say that there is no such reality as a homosexual, only those who perform homosexual acts. This flies in the face of the Bible, however, which speaks of those who commit such sins by their sin -- murderers, liars, adulterers, gossips, etc. It does not help to deny this. But, even though no "orientation" can alter the moral status of actions, the fact remains that some persons are sexually attracted to persons of the same sex while the majority are sexually attracted to persons of the opposite sex. There are other terms to use here, ranging from "sexual attraction pattern" to "sexual arousal profile," but sexual orientation seems a bit less explicit and is generally understood within the culture.

5. Research into the human genome and the possibility of germ-line therapies raises all kinds of moral concerns, ranging from the creation of designer babies to the redefinition of humanity. In one article, I was said to advocate genetic therapies. I never said that, and I resolutely oppose such proposals. I would not advocate the use of genetic therapies to create heterosexual babies -- or any other therapy of this type. The hypothetical question I addressed had nothing to do with genetic factors at all. Furthermore, genetic factors are likely to be so complex and inter-related that no single genetic factor or set of factors is likely to be found to cause anything as complex as sexual attraction.

6. Caring Christians will be aware of the fact that many persons who struggle with homosexuality -- males and females -- testify as Christian believers or as those troubled in conscience that they simply have no idea where same-sex desire originated in their lives. They do know that they did not choose this pattern of attraction. Again, that does not reduce their moral responsibility in any way or to any degree. But caring Christians, fully committed to the sole authority of the Bible, must want to help persons to understand and deal with this specific temptation to sin.

7. The causes of same-sex attraction are likely to be very complex. The research of Joseph Nicolosi and others points to specific social and environmental factors as a prime cause. Boys who do not identify themselves with Dad by age two are clearly at risk. Dr. James Dobson addresses many of these factors in his book, Bringing Up Boys. Given the devastating impact of the Fall, we should not be shaken to our foundations if other causative factors are found. In any event, Christian compassion must lead us to want to know how this would happen in order that we can help those struggling with this sin. We should be thankful for those who, through biblical counsel and guidance, are helping homosexuals to find victory in Christ.

8. Let's remember that all of us are born with a huge moral defect -- we are sinners from the start. Christians who have responded with claims that God would not allow a person to be born with a bent toward sin miss the clear biblical teaching that all of us are born with a bent toward sin and with a sin nature. We are born marked by Adam's sin and already under God's just condemnation for that sin.

9. The only cure for sin itself is the cross of Christ. No therapy will cleanse us of sin, no treatment will atone. Only the shed blood of Jesus Christ will save, and salvation is found in Him alone.

10. Thanks are due to all who wrote or contacted me about these issues. That is not an easy thing to write, given the caustic tone of many communications and the fact that so many did not even bother to read my article. Nevertheless, I learned from your responses, and I am sure that God intended them for my good. I also want to be humble in asking fellow believers to join me in thinking about these crucial questions. If I have missed something, point it out. If I have violated Scripture in any way, bring this to my attention. If I am confused in any way, point to clarification.

We must be committed to being relentless in seeking to ground our thinking in biblical truth. The issues we face are daunting. The issue of homosexuality will not go away. Bromides and careless thinking will not serve the church well.

Christian families are struggling with sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, and a myriad of others who are themselves struggling with this sin or caught in its grasp. Many homosexual persons are waiting anxiously to see if Christians really love the sinner even as we hate the sin. When it comes to homosexuality, the Christian church has often violated its Gospel by appearing to hate both this sin and the sinners who involve themselves in homosexuality.

Here is a haunting question to consider. In 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 the Apostle Paul condemns an entire list of sins, including explicit references to homosexuality. Then he reminds the church, "such were some of you." The complete text reads: "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" [1 Corinthians 6:11]. God brings glory to himself through the salvation of sinners -- and Paul includes homosexuality in that list. Why do we not see more redeemed sinners testifying to the grace of God in bringing them out of the sin of homosexuality? Could it be because many churches would rather just isolate themselves from persons in this category of sin?

As John Newton, author of the hymn "Amazing Grace," once testified: "I know that I am a great sinner and that Jesus is a great Savior." We should seek the glory of God in the salvation of sinners -- sinners of every type and temptation.

To those identifying themselves as homosexuals:

Again, I am thankful for your communications. Some were filled with hate and with language that is unrepeatable here. Some of you consider any claim that homosexual acts are sinful to be hateful. Others would insist that declaring heterosexual marriage to be a resolute norm is hateful. Many claim that trying to help a person out of homosexuality is hateful.

I do not expect that anything I can say or write will change that determined response. All I can do is be clear about what the Bible reveals about God's verdict on all homosexual acts. Christians are called to love homosexual persons, but we cannot love homosexuality. That is simply not an option. We cannot mislead you by telling you anything other than what the Bible says about homosexuality. The greatest act of compassion a biblical Christian can offer is to tell the truth about our sin, and point all persons to redemption through faith in Christ.

Furthermore, I have heard from so many persons who struggle in their consciences with homosexuality -- persons who claim with obvious sincerity of heart that they do not know the origin of this temptation and deny that they consciously chose it. I am trying to take this into serious account and not to misrepresent what you say and know about yourselves.

From a biblical perspective, it makes no sense to say that homosexuality is normative supposedly because God "makes" people that way. God does not allow any of us to escape his righteous judgment on our sin, whatever the biological, environmental, social, or historical factors that we may claim as explanatory factors.

My purpose in writing my pervious article was, in the main, to draw attention to a very real threat to human dignity that lurks as a possibility on our horizon -- a possibility explicitly described in the Radar magazine article. This is the possibility that, if a biological marker (real or not) is ever claimed to mark homosexuality in prenatal testing, widespread abortion of such babies might well follow. As the author of the magazine article I cited explained, the liberal commitment to unrestricted abortion rights might well run into direct conflict with liberal commitment to the normalization of homosexuality. In that event, hypothetical in the present time, it will be biblical Christians, opposed to all elective abortions, who will stand for the full human dignity of all human beings, born and unborn.

Keep the communications coming. As I said to my evangelical brothers and sisters, I am sure God means for me to learn much from what you say.
 
Gays arrested at Ky. seminary sit-in


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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Members of a gay rights group were arrested Monday after staging a sit-in at a Baptist seminary whose president is drawing criticism for his comments on prenatal treatments that would influence a child's sexual orientation.

The group, Soulforce, attempted to meet with the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary's president, the Rev. R. Albert Mohler Jr., an influential evangelical leader.

Twelve were charged with criminal trespassing - a misdemeanor - and booked into jail, Louisville police said.

The sit-in in front of Mohler's office lasted about two hours, said Jarrett Lucas, a co-director of a Soulforce tour that is visiting Christian colleges....

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Not my fault?

Heard THAT somewhere before.

Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Adam not only blamed Eve but God as well.
Blaming God is nothing new. Making excuse is nothing new. Didn't help Adam and it won't help us either.
 
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