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It's time to outlaw bullying

And are they supposed to? My gripe is the Church of God is supposedly enlightened and still don't, either. Do they know him when they see him?
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No, they (mankind) aren't supposed to. That's the point. the Church which is supposed to, is so few in number, most people don't have much influence in their life to turn and seek Yhwh, or to turn away from their worldly life. They don't see it in others, and apart from sheer grace they don't have enough courage to step out in faith anyway (without "human" encouragement).
No, they don't know Him when they see Him, any more than they did when He was walking in their midst in person on earth.
A few , (those who had repented and been immersed by John the immerser), did "see Him" and accept Him.
The others did not.

Now, other than after "PRAYER" and "GRACE", it is hard (or rare) to ever see anyone accept Him.

"We" are supposed to show in our lives, continually, the Life of Yhwh in Yeshua. That may be the only chance someone else has to see the truth. And they will still have many others influencing them and trying to keep them in the world and of the world.
 
I do NOT appreciate your false assumption that anti psychotics will turn someone to shoot others.

Angel please don't feel bad.
The truth is that when the incorrect medications are given to people or the wrong dosages it can have unseen side effects. This is with any drug, not just anti-psychotics or anti-depressants.

I have witnessed two instances of this happening.
The first with my own husband. He had been seriously injured in an auto accident. The doctors gave him an anti-depressant. We did know that's what it was or that anti-depressants are used for inflammation in muscles and tendons. No one mentioned side effects. Within a week or so I noticed that my very verbal and optimist husband had gone silent and unhappy, I was concerned. I worked at a medical clinic and looked up the drug. When the doctor came in I spoke with her. She told me to call my husband and tell him not to take one more pill, not one. She said that with people who do not need an anti-depressant they can work just the opposite as they would with someone who does and have been the cause of suicides.
In the second case, a young extended family member who still a teenager was given Prozac for depression because he and his girlfriend were having problems. He became a very angry young man and threatened her father with a gun. He call the father and told him to get out his gun because he was on his way with his. The police stopped him before he left his house the gun was already in the car. Was he suicidal, yes, but he was going to try to force someone else to do it. He was taken off Prozac and given counseling. There have been no more instances and that's been almost 9 years ago now. He is doing fine.

"Prozac is one of the few antidepressants approved for the treatment of depression in youths. Unfortunately, however, studies on children have linked the drug to increased suicidal thoughts and behavior. As a result, the FDA issued a public warning in October 2004, and two years later extended the advisory to include young adults as old as 24.

In 2007, the FDA took an even stronger stance. The agency required antidepressant manufacturers to update existing black-box warnings about the increased risks of suicidal thoughts and behavior during initial treatment, which the FDA defined as the first one to two months.

An FDA black-box warning is the most stringent precaution a drug can carry before it is pulled from the shelves. It takes its name from the black border that surrounds the warning information on the drug’s packaging. The agency often requires pharmaceutical companies to include a bold warning on drug packaging and patient instruction sheets if serious or life-threatening risks are associated with the drug’s use." http://www.drugwatch.com/prozac/
 
People don't commit crimes because they're mentally ill. The commit crimes because they are EVIL!
I am so sick of the stigma that goes along with mental illness!
Well Angel I think that some people who do commit crimes are ill.It is that they are very sick and not stabilized.Some of it is just evil and the work of Satan.
 
Its only a false assumption if you haven't worked for them and been there to see it Angel, with them drugs and a psychiatrist are the answer God is out. way out..:yes

tob
 
Its only a false assumption if you haven't worked for them and been there to see it Angel, with them drugs and a psychiatrist are the answer God is out. way out..

And here all these years I thought I was a Christian.
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It's better to find out now, before there is no more time to be. Later, it is too late.(multitudes don't find out until Judgment Day, when it's too late. they refused to believe while they still had a chance in God's Grace in Yeshua, so God gave them over to believe their own delusion since they refused to believe Him and His Message. they believed they were saved right up until Judgment Day when they find out otherwise.)
 
I am mentally ill.
Never have I desired to shoot or hurt others.
In fact, I am the opposite!
It was many years before I found the right medications that help me the most.
It just hurts when mentally ill people are so generalized.
At my mental health clinic I am surrounded by mentally ill people who are nice to be around.
Never has anyone gone nuts and hurt others. They are people, troubled by illness. Everyone has troubles that may last a season or a year or a lifetime.
 
I am mentally ill.
Never have I desired to shoot or hurt others.
In fact, I am the opposite!
It was many years before I found the right medications that help me the most.
It just hurts when mentally ill people are so generalized.
At my mental health clinic I am surrounded by mentally ill people who are nice to be around.
Never has anyone gone nuts and hurt others. They are people, troubled by illness. Everyone has troubles that may last a season or a year or a lifetime.

People are afraid of things they don't understand.
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"be as harmless as doves" (harm no one) is Jesus word. most people I've met that are mentally ill are exceptionally free of causing harm to others or even ever thinking of doing so.
 
What do you mean by free of causing harm mean? I don't understand your wording. Sorry. :)
 
What do you mean by free of causing harm mean? I don't understand your wording. Sorry. :)
"be as harmless as doves" (harm no one) is Jesus word. most people I've met that are mentally ill are exceptionally free of causing harm to others or even ever thinking of doing so.

be as harmless as doves , is equivalent to, the same as , free of causing harm to others, (i.e. doing as Jesus said to do, being as Jesus says to be.)
 
This is true.

Yhwh requires a lot of anyone who calls on His Name - and people are afraid to let go of everything they learned growing up to be His. They think they can hang on to the security they were taught or used to,
and don't often trust Yhwh enough to let go of all that, so they turn back to what they're comfortable with and what their friends or family and neighbors tell them instead of what Yhwh tells them. This has always been so, even when Jesus was walking with them.
 
How much do you know about them Gary?

Enough to know that anyone who is familiar with mental illness wouldn't make statements like the ones below.

*edit: please don't involve the government they'll give the bully anti-psychotic drugs then they'll go get a gun..
Its only a false assumption if you haven't worked for them and been there to see it Angel, with them drugs and a psychiatrist are the answer God is out. way out..:yes
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I think there's a rather bizarre mixup here. the mentally ill are often the most harmless of all people , and most loving as well.

but most of the time the government's treatments and protocals and the professionals (so-called) are devastatingly bad.(proven thousands of times without any possible reconciliation with the truth).

i.e. it is not an accusation against the mentally ill. no.

but in every area the government gets involved in, it messes up quite dramatically.
and 'professionals' too.

(i.e. if that's what tob meant, he's right. totally right)
 
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