Jeremiah 17:9.

[justbyfaith]

I find myself coming back to this basic understanding...that my heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked...

As Jesus said even to His disciples, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit (good things) to those who ask Him?"

It leads me to the conclusion that I cannot rely on myself any longer; but I must endeavor to trust in the Holy Spirit's leading and guiding on a moment-by-moment basis, 24/7.

It should be clear that if anyone trusts in his own heart, he is a fool.

It is only through faith in Jesus that we receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14).

Knowing that I am evil, I cannot live my own life any more; but I endeavor to let Christ live His life in and through me.

 

[gordon777]

I find myself coming back to this basic understanding...that my heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked...

As Jesus said even to His disciples, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit (good things) to those who ask Him?"

It leads me to the conclusion that I cannot rely on myself any longer; but I must endeavor to trust in the Holy Spirit's leading and guiding on a moment-by-moment basis, 24/7.

It should be clear that if anyone trusts in his own heart, he is a fool.

It is only through faith in Jesus that we receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14).

Knowing that I am evil, I cannot live my own life any more; but I endeavor to let Christ live His life in and through me.

Purged /sprinkled from an evil conscience to draw near to God:


Proverbs 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.

Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.





The old heart of stone is not trustworthy, but God does not take that and give a new heart so it is just as evil and untrustworthy, writing His laws in it through HIs Holy Spirit given, would seem to suggest blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, assigning with evil. to Gods good works in us.



Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

2 Corinthians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

 

[gordon777]

A lot of blatant blasphemy is permitted on this forum, will the ops ever even be seen to prevent it ?

If we are the planting of the Lord, why would we remain evil when the planting that is not of the Lord, is evil ? ( no distinctions made, of righteous/non evil plants/good trees, no purpose of the testimony of Christ, do you forum people really think we don't see what you are promoting and it is entirely proven and revealed ?



Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Matthew 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

 

[gordon777]

There is only one conclusion, this place cannot be truly Christian, or would not be happy with such inventions. ( of evil things)


Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

 

[hawkman]

There is only one conclusion, this place cannot be truly Christian, or would not be happy with such inventions. ( of evil things)


Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

I must ask gordon777 , what place have you found to be truly Christian ?

 

[Charlie24]

I find myself coming back to this basic understanding...that my heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked...

As Jesus said even to His disciples, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit (good things) to those who ask Him?"

It leads me to the conclusion that I cannot rely on myself any longer; but I must endeavor to trust in the Holy Spirit's leading and guiding on a moment-by-moment basis, 24/7.

It should be clear that if anyone trusts in his own heart, he is a fool.

It is only through faith in Jesus that we receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14).

Knowing that I am evil, I cannot live my own life any more; but I endeavor to let Christ live His life in and through me.

We may disagree on some few things, but we agree on the foundation built on Christ!

Haven't heard from you in some time! Are you still dealing with those on City Data Forum?

I have always appreciated your help in coming over there and proclaiming Christ in the way that you did!

 

[justbyfaith]

We may disagree on some few things, but we agree on the foundation built on Christ!

Haven't heard from you in some time! Are you still dealing with those on City Data Forum?

I have always appreciated your help in coming over there and proclaiming Christ in the way that you did!

No, I was kicked off of those forums some time ago.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The heart is deceitful above all things,
and desperately sick;
who can understand it?
10“I the LORD search the heart
and test the mind,b
to give every man according to his ways,
according to the fruit of his deeds.”

This is pretty interesting if we think about it. First we agree that our hearts are or can be desperately wicked at least at times. Some think all the time but that runs into the difficulty of Jesus and God praising men. So "all the time" does not work in real life. So we are left with some of the time and after observing people, it is reasonable to think for some, moments of not being wicked in heart are few and far between if ever. But certainly that is not all of us all of the time.

This is further supported by the latter sentences such as in verse 10. God rewards a man according to his deeds. If all deeds were the result of a wicked heart all the time, there would be no sense in that promise. The NT reflects this is what a man sows, so shall he reap. Jesus' teaching is full of promises for obedience and warnings regarding disobedience. This ought to motivate us when it comes to choices.

And yes, I agree with the OP that it is the Lord who can help us out of this state of our hearts. I know some like to think this is instant and read scripture forming a theology divorced from real life because looking at real life and real choices real Christians make tell us this is definitely not the case. We are given a new heart but we have to cooperate. And this means it happens slowly over time. It is not a surgery. It is more like a training program.

 

[gordon777]

I must ask gordon777 , what place have you found to be truly Christian ?

Here is truly Christian:




Apostle Paul brought before the council, tells them earnestly how he had lived in all good conscience before God until that day.

Paul is then brought before Governor Felix, and confesses before them, that, that which they call heresy, He so worships the God of his fathers, believing all things written in the law and the prophets, having hope towards God, of a resurrection of the dead, just and unjust. This is how Apostle Paul confesses how he exercises himself, to always have a conscience void of offence toward God and toward man. (More verses for never giving offence, and when some give offences to avoid those people. 1 Corinthians 10:32. 2 Corinthians 6:3. James 3:2. Philippians 1:10. Romans 16:17.)

The end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, which is also of a good conscience, sincere faith, which some swerve aside to vanity.

We are to hold the faith and a good conscience, not like some who have put away concerning faith and made shipwreck. ( they are delivered unto satan to learn to not blaspheme.)

We are to draw near to God, with a true heart in full assurance of faith, and our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

The Apostles had a good conscience in all things, willing to live honestly.

We are beseeched by the workers with Him, to not receive the grace of God in vain. God hears us and accepts us in the day of salvation and succours us, we are to behold as now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

The Apostles giving no offence in anything, that the ministry be not blamed. But in all things approving themselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses.

Whatever we do it is to, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD.. ( committing sin is not giving glory to God)

Giving no offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God, even as Apostle Paul pleased ALL MEN IN ALL THINGS, not seeking his own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

What saves us is the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. ( To assure our hearts before God and our heart to not condemn us. 1 John 3:18-21.)




Acts 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.

1 Timothy 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

1 Timothy 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Hebrews 13:18 Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.

2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:





No scripture can be taught against the practical examples of the Apostles, nor against the purpose of that good conscience /belief in the rising of Christ from the dead, and also of non causing of offence to anyone. ( in all things giving glory to God.)

Those who do commit sins, ( those of this world/and any man that is called a brother.) fornicators, covetous, railer, drunkards, are to be judged, and pout away from ourselves those wicked persons.





1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I must ask gordon777 , what place have you found to be truly Christian ?

The poster to whom you refer has a theology that is divorced from real life. So if you ask him where on the planet in 2023 a truly Christian church is, he will answer with verses written 2000+ years ago. This is a good example of those who hold to a theology that does not touch real life. This is actually not as unusual as one might think. Those who answer questions about TODAY and real life with Scripture verses that have nothing to do with the answer are such as these. Ask them if they sin, they will give you a scripture as though that answers the question. Ask them what they believe as far as eschatology goes, they will give you scripture instead of having the courage to tell you what they think. They hide behind scripture and actually think they are superior for doing so. Although come to think of it, when they do try to explain their views, they don't actually match scripture but these type tend to choose ONLY the scripture that they like, refusing to entertain the idea that scripture elsewhere refutes their position. They are not free at all.

 

[gordon777]

In this time, there are only doctrines of devils, inventers of evil things, giving great swelling words of vanity, bringing in damnable heresies, they do not endure sound doctrine/lovers of their own selves. ( that tells enough it is nowhere in these forums to find honesty/sincerity in Christ, and they are back biters, false accusers and despisers of those that are good.)



1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

 

[gordon777]

If anyone wants to know why this is fulfilled on this forum, all the evil doctrines that go on, on this forum, it is because it is not time to find a church, it is because it is the end of the whole wicked world, time, no longer.



Psalms 92:5 O Lord, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep.
6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:
8 But thou, Lord, art most high for evermore.

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

Revelation 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[justbyfaith]

The heart is deceitful above all things,
and desperately sick;
who can understand it?
10“I the LORD search the heart
and test the mind,b
to give every man according to his ways,
according to the fruit of his deeds.”

This is pretty interesting if we think about it. First we agree that our hearts are or can be desperately wicked at least at times. Some think all the time but that runs into the difficulty of Jesus and God praising men. So "all the time" does not work in real life. So we are left with some of the time and after observing people, it is reasonable to think for some, moments of not being wicked in heart are few and far between if ever. But certainly that is not all of us all of the time.

This is further supported by the latter sentences such as in verse 10. God rewards a man according to his deeds. If all deeds were the result of a wicked heart all the time, there would be no sense in that promise. The NT reflects this is what a man sows, so shall he reap. Jesus' teaching is full of promises for obedience and warnings regarding disobedience. This ought to motivate us when it comes to choices.

And yes, I agree with the OP that it is the Lord who can help us out of this state of our hearts. I know some like to think this is instant and read scripture forming a theology divorced from real life because looking at real life and real choices real Christians make tell us this is definitely not the case. We are given a new heart but we have to cooperate. And this means it happens slowly over time. It is not a surgery. It is more like a training program.

Jeremiah `7:9 certainly apples to every heart 100% of the time.

While men can receive praise from God because of deeds that they performed not from their hearts, but as the result of being indwelt by and following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

Rom 7:18, For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Jeremiah `7:9 certainly apples to every heart 100% of the time.

Why did Jesus praise some people some of the time. Why did he say the little children are like those in Heaven? How come Jesus never told a single person that their heart was desperately wicked? Is it because we aren’t all, all the time?

While men can receive praise from God because of deeds that they performed not from their hearts, but as the result of being indwelt by and following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

I assure you, many good deeds are done from the heart. Jesus said a good man brings treasure out if his heart. Luke 16:45
Why do you insist all men have evil hearts?

Rom 7:18, For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Notice “in me” NOT in everyone.

 

[gordon777]

Notice for the talkers, because they say the right thing, does that display the love of God, to do the right thing ?

No, Jeremiah like all verses of the old test, is the Spirit of Christ, in the flesh to do better than the vanity of men( and women) on the forums and in all of this world.

 

[justbyfaith]

Why did Jesus praise some people some of the time. Why did he say the little children are like those in Heaven? How come Jesus never told a single person that their heart was desperately wicked? Is it because we aren’t all, all the time?

I assure you, many good deeds are done from the heart. Jesus said a good man brings treasure out if his heart. Luke 16:45
Why do you insist all men have evil hearts?

Notice “in me” NOT in everyone.

A regenerated heart is desperately wicked above all things; the only difference is that it has been permeated by the Holy Spirit and therefore can do things that are motivated by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus told his disciples that they were evil in Matthew 7:11 and in Luke 11:13.

Good deeds are only truly done as being motivated by the Holy Spirit; if they be truly good and untainted by sin.A regenerated heart is still deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. It is like a cucumber that continues to have a cucumber nature even after it has been pickled. A pickled heart is permeated by the Holy Spirit. It is still a cucumber; but it has been permeated with the nature of vinegar (the Holy Spirit) and in that sense it is a whole new animal.

Try to think of how this analogy applies to the concept of whether a regenerated heart is still wicked even though it has been changed in its very nature. It is still wicked because it is still a cucumber. But because it has been pickled, its nature has been changed so that it is in a sense no longer wicked. The nature of the vinegar (Holy Spirit) has gone through the cucumber so that it is a pickle.

 

[gordon777]

The heart is desperately wicked, and it is what is communicating on these forums right now.

Who wants to hear the self confessed evil hearts and think they are not crazy ?

God cant lie, and men are not only desperately wicked, but also dangerously wicked, why cant anyone at all wisen up before they have to do this:


Psalm 4:2 O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.
3 But know that the Lord hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the Lord will hear when I call unto him.
4 Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.
5 Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the Lord.

 

[Charlie24]

No, I was kicked off of those forums some time ago.

Perfect example of what Paul said. "in the latter times, some will not accept sound doctrine."

I know for a fact you were teaching sound doctrine! You did your part, that's all you can do!

 

[Dorothy Mae]

justbyfaith and gordon777, in the interests of defending the character of God, it needs to be pointed out that God is far from demanding perfection as has been claimed nor does he see every single person on earth as "desperately wicked" as you also claim. Jesus never once told either the crowds or is disciples that they were "desperately wicked" which makes no distinction between those who are desperately wicked and the righteous. You won't like it, but the Bible continually speaks of the righteous as real people and even names names of those who are. David wrote in the Psalms of what God does for the righteous knowing that there are some. Obviously the understanding of what the desperately wicked are and the righteous is different in the mind of God than what you are speaking of.

I can understand this as Calvinism introduced a concept of man that accuses him, without exception, of being totally depraved, which is the worst a man can be morally. A depraved person has no morals at all. This theological constructs teaches a man to be the accuser of all man (who does that sound like) and robs anyone of any credit for anything good they do. Hence we have the view of man that you both express that does not match the view of the Bible.

Let's look at the view the Bible expresses of man as a whole. Are all men desperately wicked in the eyes of God?
No and this is easy to prove because when a statement is made that insists "all A are B" one only needs one exception to prove that the statement is false.

"All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only one belonging to Jeroboam who will be buried, because he is the only one in the house of Jeroboam in whom the LORD, the God of Israel, has found anything good." God found something good in a man.

"Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend." Does God speak face to face to a man who is desperately wicked? No, because Jesus said "without holiness shall no man see God."

"For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to give strong support to those whose heart is blameless toward him." Humm, so God is looking through the world to find those whose heart is innocent towards Him. What does this tell us? Do we think God never finds such a one? If so, why bother looking?

So does God "demand perfection" as gordon777 claims? Let's look at the whole of that passage.

You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet only your brothers,i what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

The Greek word for "perfect" is also translated elsewhere as "mature." What is verse 48 referring to? It is referring to loving your enemies and praying for those who persecute you. Is this really difficult? He means, of course, doing good to those who act like your enemies. I live in Europe and am still impressed with how the Americans spent money building up the country there was literally their enemies in war when it was over. This did not occur after WWI which the winners deeply punished the losers financially. They did not love their enemies. After WWII, they did. And these are not Christian people in particular. I have seen atheists do good to those who might not be their enemies, they certainly made their life difficult. I have seen atheists give a birthday present to a coworker who made their work very difficult. So what is Jesus saying? He is telling us in this matter of how we treat those who treat us badly, we are to be "mature." He is not saying God demands moral perfection out of us.

In Matthew 25 we see the servant coming to Jesus with differing amounts of success. Those who did something received a "well done good and faithful servant" although we can assume that by no means were they perfect in their service. Jesus said those who give a cup of cold water in his name will not lose their reward from God. We can assume that the water giver was not morally perfect in every choice. He is called the Judge of all the earth and that means that he weighs the choices a man makes considering all the aspects not that God has one standard of measure, 100% perfect in every choice or "desperately wicked."

My experience is this although this is not scripture and I heard it first from someone else, God is easy to please and hard to satisfy. The man who is afraid and nevertheless does the right thing demonstrates courage whereas the man who is not afraid and does the very same thing does not. God does not judge from the outside but the inside.

Now in fairness, I have to admit that our hearts are very much worse than we suspect. Perhaps, when we see them we will agree that we our desperately wicked. But we make a mistake if we decide that all are desperately wicked judging them and accusing them of evil. We can judge our own hearts or ask God to judge them and this is right. We take the part of the accuser of man when we decide all men are desperately wicked (totally depraved.) In any case, the heart, our heart can rightly be said to be desperately wicked. Best to leave it there.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The heart is desperately wicked, and it is what is communicating on these forums right now.

Who wants to hear the self confessed evil hearts and think they are not crazy ?

God cant lie, and men are not only desperately wicked, but also dangerously wicked, why cant anyone at all wisen up before they have to do this:


Psalm 4:2 O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.
3 But know that the Lord hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the Lord will hear when I call unto him.
4 Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.
5 Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the Lord.

By your own scripture you disprove your point.

Psalm 4:2 O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.
3 But know that the Lord hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the Lord will hear when I call unto him.
There are godly people and God says what he does with them
4 Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.
5 Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the Lord.
Obviously, this can be done or God would not have instructed a man to do so.

Seems the Lord's opinion of man does not agree with yours which is why you have no scripture where God says man, all of them, are desperately wicked all the time. (That actually is in the Bible regarding the population before the flood and God cleansed the earth of them. Those guys were desperately wicked thinking evil all the time.)