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Re: The extremists
Extremists? You make is sound as if the Koran teaches peace.
Pickthall on Koran 5:51
51. O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
There is nothing above this verse there is nothing below it that counters or minimizes this meaning It is as it is.............and that is how it is.
This is good stuff:
# Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
# If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, KILL THEM wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
# Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115
WMD said:Gary said:WMD said:Fath said:..... Yet, I look at photographs of those Muslims who protested the recent cartoons of Muhammad with violence, and one photograph that showed the position and intelligence of Muslims was one of a person holding a sign which read this:
"BEHEAD those who say that Islam is violent!"
Actually the sign read "Behead those that insult islam" another read "Slay those that insult islam." so on and so forth.
I am not defending islam or their violent ways, but make sure you get your facts straight... even the little details count.
I think many people underestimate Muslims... they are not un-educated morons living in the desert. They are very intelligent and many of the Islamic Extremists go to prestigious universities all over the world.
Just a thought.
The extremists know their Quran and the Hadith (the deeds and words of Muhammad) better than most Muslims. They know that Jihad is real... they live it like Muhammad did. They follow Muhammad's example. Muhammad murdered many of those who opposed him.
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Extremists also twists the word of the Qu'ran to fit their needs. Verses in the Qu'ran do say that you must retaliate against those that oppose you, but the second half of those same verses say that you should be peaceful to those that have not shown violence to you.
Obviously extremists quote the first half and ignore the second.
Please forgive me for not giving the specific verse, I will try to look it up for you. Or perhaps you already know it.
ps... the literal version of Jihad, is eternal struggle. As in an eternal struggle to be closer to Allah. But it has evolved to be an eternal struggle against the infidels, or more specifically, "Holy War"
Extremists? You make is sound as if the Koran teaches peace.
Pickthall on Koran 5:51
51. O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
There is nothing above this verse there is nothing below it that counters or minimizes this meaning It is as it is.............and that is how it is.
This is good stuff:
# Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
# If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, KILL THEM wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
# Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115