Jesus Is God: Part 1

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John 2:19​	YESHUA answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20​	Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21​	But He spake of the temple of His body.

What temple was destroyed? His Body, What temple did He raise up, His Body.

And if that's not clear enough. The passage is clarified further, He spake of the Temple of His Body, the one that was buried for three days, the one He raised Up. Clear enough?

Yes, will the deity deniers accept it, No

John 10:18​

No man taketh it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of My Father.

Acts 10:40​

Him God raised up the third day, and shewed Him openly;

1 Corinthians 15:52 kjv
52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Got to love it.
You said: “What temple was destroyed? His Body, What temple did He raise up, His Body.”
Absolutely correct.
And
Extra side effects;
His body had not seen corruption; so that we can be raised to be incorruptible.
Jesus returned to his eternal condition so that we immortal forever in Heaven.

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[JLB]

But, having a spirit and being a spirit are two different thing.

The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
Romans 8:16

 

[Edward]

Where does it say these three are one God? It doesn't.

Jesus says at one point, I an the Father are one. We are in Christ, are we not? Is Christ in us?

And Jesus says I will send my Holy Spirit to you...

So how are they not one?

 

[Edward]

We're not told what being made in the image of God means. But, man does have a spirit, it is the breath or spirit of God. But, having a spirit and being a spirit are two different thing. We see clearly from Gen 2:7 that man has a spirit, it is the breath of life. However, that's not what has been claimed. The claim is that man is a spirit.
That is not Scriptural. Paul said that Jesus was made like His brethren in all ways. Jesus said He was not a spirit. Thus man is not a spirit.

WHy not, don't you use a Concordance? It tells us what in the image and likeness of God means.

Succinctly, it can mean anything from similitudes of form all the way up to and incuding the Character of God.

 

[Edward]

But you didn't burst it.

So what are you saying then? That God is the suthor of confusion?

 

[Butch5]

So what are you saying then? That God is the suthor of confusion?

No, He's not. "To us there is one God, the Father". It isn't confusing at all. On the other hand, there are three coequal, coeternal, persons who are all fully God, yet individual persons is very confusing.

 

[Butch5]

WHy not, don't you use a Concordance? It tells us what in the image and likeness of God means.

Succinctly, it can mean anything from similitudes of form all the way up to and incuding the Character of God.

A concordance doesnt tell is what God meant. Commentaries, lexicons, and concordance are all works of men. They're opinions of what people think the Scriptures mean. Some are likely correct, some are likely wrong. Either way they're men's ideas. The Bible doesnt tell us what that statement meant.

 

[Butch5]

Jesus says at one point, I an the Father are one. We are in Christ, are we not? Is Christ in us?

And Jesus says I will send my Holy Spirit to you...

So how are they not one?

They are one, in purpose, not person. Jesus said, 'not my will but thine be done'. Paul said Jesus is the express image of God.

 

[Butch5]

The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
Romans 8:16

Yes, the spirit that we have is the breath of life. God's breath bear witness with our breath. No, I don't mean the air we inhale. It's that which comes from God and gives us life

 

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The sun is the source of energy
The light is like spirit essence issuing from the sun’s energy
The moon reflects light of the sun.
Plants actually are sunshine turned to life through photosynthesis

All these things of creation are to let us know the things of God.
Romans 1:20

These things are tied together, but can be seen separately. You can not see wind, but we see the effect,

So it is with the Godhead.

Mississippi redneck
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[Edward]

A concordance doesnt tell is what God meant. Commentaries, lexicons, and concordance are all works of men. They're opinions of what people think the Scriptures mean. Some are likely correct, some are likely wrong. Either way they're men's ideas. The Bible doesnt tell us what that statement meant.

It seems to me that you take no pleasure in understanding, but only voicing your opinion.

So how are we to take your position? That Jesus is not God? That there is no Holy Spirit? And if you are right, then what are the implications of that? That it is not Jesus and what He did that saves us from our sins?

Jesus said, I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes unto the Father but by me. (What's that mean?)

 

[Edward]

They are one, in purpose, not person. Jesus said, 'not my will but thine be done'. Paul said Jesus is the express image of God.

That's right, not the same person. There is three of them...distinctly three seperate personalities.

 

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1 Corinthians 15:24 kjv
24. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

So?
The Father was
Godhead US made creation
The Spirit of God breathed life into Adam
Sin came along
The words of the Father spoke of a coming Messiah /Son
Jesus died so that we may have eternal life
When death is defeated the kingdom reverts to the Father

Add a couple hundred other steps and it should be really clear.

Help Edward

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[jaybo]

A concordance doesnt tell is what God meant. Commentaries, lexicons, and concordance are all works of men. They're opinions of what people think the Scriptures mean. Some are likely correct, some are likely wrong. Either way they're men's ideas. The Bible doesnt tell us what that statement meant.

Works of men, as opposed to..? Works of horses, sheep, or? Of course they're works of people, but they're not opinions. They are generally works of scholars who have devoted their lives to the study of Scripture.

 

[Butch5]

Works of men, as opposed to..? Works of horses, sheep, or? Of course they're works of people, but they're not opinions. They are generally works of scholars who have devoted their lives to the study of Scripture.

Some may have. It doesn't make correct. And it is their opinion. Unless of course God has personally given them their information. Of course we'd need to see proof. What about those that are refuted by Scripture, are they above reproach also?

 

[Butch5]

That's right, not the same person. There is three of them...distinctly three seperate personalities.

Personalities?

 

[Butch5]

It seems to me that you take no pleasure in understanding, but only voicing your opinion.

So how are we to take your position? That Jesus is not God? That there is no Holy Spirit? And if you are right, then what are the implications of that? That it is not Jesus and what He did that saves us from our sins?

Jesus said, I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes unto the Father but by me. (What's that mean?)

No pleasure in understanding? No one has been able to present an argument that is understandable. How are three coequal, coeternal, persons one person? How is that underarandable? Now, if we say three persons are one in unity or one in agreement, that's understandable. But that's not what people claim. They refer to God as He. That is a singular pronoun used to indicate a single individual. They then say that He consists of three persons. That's not understandable because it's a logical contradiction.

People equivocate when using the word God. What fascinates me is how people claim to believe the Bible and then ignore what doesn't fit what they believe. Paul said, "to us there is one God, the Father". That statement alone should have put an end to this whole concept of a three in one God. Yet millions simply ignore it and continue to argue for the concept. There is nothing in Scripture that speaks of a three in one God. There is Scripture that says there is one God, the Father. Then we have the fact that this three in one idea doesn't appear in church history until the 5th century. Yet, people ignore all of this and claim that the three in one God idea is Biblical. Isn't it odd that we don't find any of the apostles talking about a three in one God?

 

[eddif]

No pleasure in understanding? No one has been able to present an argument that is understandable. How are three coequal, coeternal, persons one person? How is that underarandable? Now, if we say three persons are one in unity or one in agreement, that's understandable. But that's not what people claim. They refer to God as He. That is a singular pronoun used to indicate a single individual. They then say that He consists of three persons. That's not understandable because it's a logical contradiction.

People equivocate when using the word God. What fascinates me is how people claim to believe the Bible and then ignore what doesn't fit what they believe. Paul said, "to us there is one God, the Father". That statement alone should have put an end to this whole concept of a three in one God. Yet millions simply ignore it and continue to argue for the concept. There is nothing in Scripture that speaks of a three in one God. There is Scripture that says there is one God, the Father. Then we have the fact that this three in one idea doesn't appear in church history until the 5th century. Yet, people ignore all of this and claim that the three in one God idea is Biblical. Isn't it odd that we don't find any of the apostles talking about a three in one God?

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Ice
Clear humidity

Male
Female
Baby

Stages of Butterfly

Water cycle lake, evaporation rain

Seed, plant, fruit containing seed

Planting, growth, harvest

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[JLB]

Yes, the spirit that we have is the breath of life. God's breath bear witness with our breath. No, I don't mean the air we inhale. It's that which comes from God and gives us life

God’s Spirit bears witness with our spirit.


God is Spirit.

We are a spirit.

God breathes His Spirit into our spirit in which we have eternal life.

If we didn’t have a spirit, we would be dead.


For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

God forms our spirit within us.

The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1


Spirit of God

spirit of man




JLB

 

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Matthew 3:11 kjjv
11. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Adam at creation became a living soul.

We must be born again to see the Kingdom.

John 3:6 kjv
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

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