Jesus: Our Substitute and Representative

[Robert Pate]

I gave you dictionary definitions of work.
work
n noun
1 activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a result.
Concise Oxford English Dictionary

intransitive verb
to exert oneself physically or mentally especially in sustained effort for a purpose or under compulsion or necessity

Noun
c : sustained physical or mental effort to overcome obstacles and achieve an objective or result Merriam Webster Dictionary

Believing is a work.

And, as I have pointed out before, your error lies in your understanding of what Paul means by work.

As I said, and you failed to respond to, I agree it [a gift] cannot be earned but whether it is deserved or not depends on your definition of deserved.

You have to believe that believing is a work because your Catholic religion is at stake. Even if believing is a work, which it is not. That is not what saves us. We are saved by the doing and the dying of Jesus. Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25. Now do you have to prostrate yourself to believe that? Even little children are able to hear and believe the Gospel and be saved.

 

[Mungo]

You have to believe that believing is a work because your Catholic religion is at stake. Even if believing is a work, which it is not. That is not what saves us. We are saved by the doing and the dying of Jesus. Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25. Now do you have to prostrate yourself to believe that? Even little children are able to hear and believe the Gospel and be saved.

This is a waste of time.
You just keep repeating the same claims that have been refuted already.

You challenged me to look up work in a dictionary. Which I did.
The dictionaries (2 of them,) both included mental activity as work.
But you still claim believing is not something WE do - a mental activity.

You keep saying that we are saved by Jesus - which I agree is the case. Jesus is the meritorious cause of our salvation.
But that salvation is applied to us in baptism.

I will waste no more time on this.
Goodbye.

 

[Robert Pate]

This is a waste of time.
You just keep repeating the same claims that have been refuted already.

You challenged me to look up work in a dictionary. Which I did.
The dictionaries (2 of them,) both included mental activity as work.
But you still claim believing is not something WE do - a mental activity.

You keep saying that we are saved by Jesus - which I agree is the case. Jesus is the meritorious cause of our salvation.
But that salvation is applied to us in baptism.

I will waste no more time on this.
Goodbye.

Believing is a mental activity, but it is not a work. My dictionary says, WORK: 1. "Continued exertion or activity, whether physical or mental, directed to some purpose". You are saying that baptism saves, baptism is a work. Believing in Jesus is not a work. Catholicism is a works religion, there are endless things that you must do.