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Jesus's Brothers & Sisters

Matthew 13:55 NIV
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?
 
Everything Lewis says you can read with the Duke's accent.

- Davies
 
They would be 1/2 brother or sister.
No! There is absolutely no biblical reason to believe that is so. The Catohlics have deified Mary and that is a lie unsupported by the Bible.

Three times God warns us in scripture neither to add nor to subtract from the Bible and this is an addition,
 
No! There is absolutely no biblical reason to believe that is so. The Catohlics have deified Mary and that is a lie unsupported by the Bible.

Three times God warns us in scripture neither to add nor to subtract from the Bible and this is an addition,

I think you misunderstood (or I did). Jesus' brothers and sisters would have been his half siblings, because they had the same mother but not the same father. Joseph wasn't Jesus' biological father. In fact, Jesus didn't have a human biological father, so he couldn't have any full siblings.

The TOG​
 
Is it me Bill, or are you not making sense.
I, likely, should have not assumed and explained. The nonsense comes straight out of the lack of study, a.k.a. The Bible is all I need to know and then they teach. This is exactly how this Catholic Nonsense became rooted in the mind instead of seeking truth. Thank you for calling me here Rollo.

There is no possibility that Joseph had children when he married Mary at about thirty years of age. Until he was thirty he was considered a mere child. Until the age of thirty a male Jew was not even allowed to read the racy Song of Solomon. I can be all wet but somebody will need to prove it.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas, peoples!
 
I, likely, should have not assumed and explained. The nonsense comes straight out of the lack of study, a.k.a. The Bible is all I need to know and then they teach. This is exactly how this Catholic Nonsense became rooted in the mind instead of seeking truth. Thank you for calling me here Rollo.

There is no possibility that Joseph had children when he married Mary at about thirty years of age. Until he was thirty he was considered a mere child. Until the age of thirty a male Jew was not even allowed to read the racy Song of Solomon. I can be all wet but somebody will need to prove it.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas, peoples!

I can't prove it, but my understanding has been that a boy was considered a man after his bar mitzva, which is usually around the age of 12 or 13. That's probably what Jesus was doing in the Temple when he was 12. Something close to that age has been considered a legal age for marriage in most cultures for most of recorded history.

The TOG​
 
I can't prove it, but my understanding has been that a boy was considered a man after his bar mitzva, which is usually around the age of 12 or 13. That's probably what Jesus was doing in the Temple when he was 12. Something close to that age has been considered a legal age for marriage in most cultures for most of recorded history.

The TOG​
jewish traditions state that and I that I believe goes back to the the time of moses.
 
I think you misunderstood (or I did). Jesus' brothers and sisters would have been his half siblings, because they had the same mother but not the same father. Joseph wasn't Jesus' biological father. In fact, Jesus didn't have a human biological father, so he couldn't have any full siblings.

The TOG​
Just an observation, but in order for Jesus, the man, to be fully human, the fully human biological Father component was provided to Him by God through the Holy Spirit.

Interesting footnote, to me anyway.

There is also a clear distinction between biological familial relativity and spiritual familial relativity as well, shown by Jesus, here for example:

Mark 3:35
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
 
I think you misunderstood (or I did). Jesus' brothers and sisters would have been his half siblings, because they had the same mother but not the same father. Joseph wasn't Jesus' biological father. In fact, Jesus didn't have a human biological father, so he couldn't have any full siblings.

The TOG​
In that respect you are right and that is not where I come at this from. I look at what the Catholics teach, Mary remained a virgin and the other sons came into the marriage from Joseph's first wife. There is absolutely no reason to ever believe Mary and Joseph did not consummate their marriage and have other sons and with God doing nothing half way, those son's and daughters were the sisters and brothers.

When my wife and I married our first Christian partners, my daughter's birth father was to be polite, eternally absent and I printed a Certificate of Adoption, very official looking and gave to her that she might always be reminded she has a dad. I might be a little screwy but she is never to be called the half sister of my son and the same is true of my wife's son, they are mine and I feel that splitting Jesus out from His brothers and sisters in any manner forces the loss of parts of the family relationship, just as it does in life here and now.
 
I can't prove it, but my understanding has been that a boy was considered a man after his bar mitzva, which is usually around the age of 12 or 13. That's probably what Jesus was doing in the Temple when he was 12. Something close to that age has been considered a legal age for marriage in most cultures for most of recorded history.

The TOG​
You might be right there because when I was mining I found where Mary was between 12 and 14 and when I discovered the rule about the Song of Solomon I, likely, assumed.
 
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