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So obviously you dont believe in Christians being in the Army, while i see ur point , that should be a personal decision not a mandate as nowhere in the bible supports. BTW there are no non combat jobs in the army save chaplains, all others jobs do carry weapons. Even medics, they can defend themselves, but they also cant be armed when with a line unit( while on patrol). A medical unit when by itself is able to set up defensive positions, what a bout police.Paidion said:How about executioners?
What about positions with the army which require them to kill others?
Medical doctors when they are required by law to participate in assisted suicides?
Abortionists?
Perhaps it will soon be difficult for Christians even to be pastors --- when they are required by law to perform "marriage cermonies" to unite homosexual couples. Or what will probably be required sooner ---- that religious leaders not speak against homosexual practice in the pulpit, on the basis that it is "hate speech".
So obviously you dont believe in Christians being in the Army...
Yes there are but even docs to carry when allowed in the geneva convention, i haved served recently in Afghanstan, docs do carry.no war has actually been a conventional one in a while not even nam.Paidion said:So obviously you dont believe in Christians being in the Army...
That's not what I inquire about. I inquired about positions in the army which require a Christian to kill. There have been many non-resistant Christians in the army who have served in the medical field to save lives rather than to destroy them.
Drunkiness is a sin, why would you encourage that, kind of a like a christian stripper, the casino one is a grey area, beacuse gambling to is addicting, and there's a verse on gambling, but i'm not sureNick_29 said:what's wrong with bartender or working in a casino?
Goju said:It's absurd to think that soldiers who gave their very lives so that we can have the freedom to speculate are absolutely not christians.
well yes, drunkeness is a sin. you're not encouraging it. In fact if, as a bartender you conclude that a patron is drunk, you can by law refuse to give them any more alcohol. In Australia that's a bartender's responsibility and I think it's a law as well.jasoncran said:Drunkiness is a sin, why would you encourage that, kind of a like a christian stripper, the casino one is a grey area, beacuse gambling to is addicting, and there's a verse on gambling, but i'm not sureNick_29 said:what's wrong with bartender or working in a casino?
well yes, drunkeness is a sin. you're not encouraging it. In fact if, as a bartender you conclude that a patron is drunk, you can by law refuse to give them any more alcohol. In Australia that's a bartender's responsibility and I think it's a law as well.Nick_29 said:Drunkiness is a sin, why would you encourage that, kind of a like a christian stripper, the casino one is a grey area, beacuse gambling to is addicting, and there's a verse on gambling, but i'm not surejasoncran said:[quote="Nick_29":20yyfgof]what's wrong with bartender or working in a casino?
Yes, I know what you're talking about, and I have been in a bar/nightclub. (probably illegally, but that's beside the point).jasoncran said:In america they have a similiar law but in aa(alcoholic anomynos) they give u a white chip as token to your journey to sobriety, an alcoholic can turn that card in any bar for a free round cause the bartenders knows that he or she will be back to spend far more, in New Orleans while underage drinking is illegal on bourbon street that quite common place, so if you are christian how many bars or clubs are u going to work, btw to get a dui in most states the limit .08 any many drunks can function at that level so how are u going to tell all the time, u will with expereince but as a christian do u want to live with that fact that u indirectly are a cause of a dui or accident.
Nick, have u ever been in bar or club is that a good enviroment to work in, as a ministry i see a witness but i wouldnt advise a vocation, think about the smoking the cursing, the fighting, what the gay bars or the strip clubs most of those serve alcohol, Nick i'm not talking about restaurants here, but about clubs and the like, to clarify myself.
Paidion said:Goju said:It's absurd to think that soldiers who gave their very lives so that we can have the freedom to speculate are absolutely not christians.
Who thinks that, Goju? Mr. Strawman?
as a vet i have from time to time thought that and found peace, but some have chosen not to serve and there's no commandment not to be in the army or any other branch, pray and seek him for your answer, and if u know that its ur calling that let know man or woman say otherwise,kimberlyb0112 said:I am serving in Afghanistan.. and I became a Christian after I joined..
I never once thought of it as disobeying God though..
I mean, they have wars in the bible.. and yes, we all carry weapons..
We don't want to use it, but if we have to.. we will..
I don't think that makes us less Christian, we are fighting for
what we believe in..
I don't know what the people says about being in the
military or anything like that..
I hope I'm not disobeying Him though..