Joseph of Arimathia

[Corn Pop]

Is there anything scripturely that can lead to believe Joseph of Arimathia could not have been Jesus foster dad?

I'm convinced Joseph of Arimathia was his dad.

A man called Joseph from Arimathia claimed Jesus. Just because the author didn't pen it down was not to say he was not Jesus dad.

 

[Pegasus]

Is there anything scripturely that can lead to believe Joseph of Arimathia could not have been Jesus foster dad?

I'm convinced Joseph of Arimathia was his dad.

A man called Joseph from Arimathia claimed Jesus. Just because the authority didn't pen in was Jesus dad what's to say he wasn't. I cant see anyone coming from a distance to claim a body to bury unless its direct family and especially a dad to bury there son.

It was Joseph duty as a dad to bury his son, and nothing in scripture says he died or anything. Jesus and Mary left him for 20 years or so why he carried on doing what he was doing, probably moved to Arimathia for work or something.

Joseph was rich, 20 years is a long time as a carpenter to make money and prosper as the Most High would have blessed him, not to mention the gold Jesus was gifts at birth from the 3 men might have helped the family business get going type thing and no room at the inn does not mean they were poor, just there was no accomodation left.

I think he is not Jesus earthly father.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Joseph-of-Arimathea.html

Joseph of Arimathea was on the Council. The Sanhedrin. Joseph husband of Mary was a carpenter.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

A man called Joseph from Arimathia claimed Jesus. Just because the authority didn't pen in was Jesus dad what's to say he wasn't.

Apparently, Mary was widowed by the time of the Crucifixion.

"But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27Then He said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household." (John 19:25-27 NASB)

 

[Corn Pop]

Apparently, Mary was widowed by the time of the Crucifixion.

"But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27Then He said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household." (John 19:25-27 NASB)

Theres not much clarity to those verses. Jesus called all followers his mothers and brothers, like we do today call each other mothers and brothers.

So Jesus told his disciple to take there mother Mary into there house, that was, until Joseph of Arimathia turned up to bury his son and then later take his wife back home, or maybe they decided to live in the city. 2

Unless there is clarity that 'from that hour' means 'from then on till death', I can't see it as a permanent statement from the author.

 

[Corn Pop]

I think he is not Jesus earthly father.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Joseph-of-Arimathea.html

Joseph of Arimathea was on the Council. The Sanhedrin. Joseph husband of Mary was a carpenter.

Maybe he joined the council in Aramathia, he was out the scriptures since the birth of Christ for 20 odd years, and as the scriptures says this Joseph on the Council was a righteous man and never had council referred to as righteous anywhere else in scripture. Joseph was righteous man.

You can't say because someone was a carpenter and over many years later they cannot change jobs or joined the council just because scripture is not focused on them. So the scripture says Joseph was a carpenter and that means because scripture does not mention him anymore he had to be a carpenter for life, was not allowed to change over 20 years, hes just a freeze frame in scripture for 20 years still looks the same even, Joseph the Carpenter, and nothing else, he can't join the council, change jobs, move location, nothing, just because scripture stops on Joseph the carpenter as a young man?

Luke 23:50
Luke 23:51


"Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her"

Only the so called righteous were voted in council. Joseph really was righteous as scripture said.

 

[Mike]

You can't say because someone was a carpenter and over many years later they cannot change jobs or joined the council just because scripture is not focused on them.

You can say it supports the idea that this is a different Joseph though, can't you? That and the fact that Mary was alone at the cross without her husband. Given that there was strict criteria for divorce, I don't want to even think about what Mary or Joseph could have done to lead to a divorce.

This may not be irrefutable, but it's enough for me to reject that they are the same person.

 

[Corn Pop]

You can say it supports the idea that this is a different Joseph though, can't you? That and the fact that Mary was alone at the cross without her husband. Given that there was strict criteria for divorce, I don't want to even think about what Mary or Joseph could have done to lead to a divorce.

This may not be irrefutable, but it's enough for me to reject that they are the same person.

Not really. It just went from Joseph of Bethleham, to Joseph of Egupt, to Joseph of Nazerith, to Joseph of Arimathia.

So Joseph wasn't at the cross, was Jesus suppose to send a message to Arimathia and tell Joseph what's about to happen?. Joseph was not there from the start of scripture for 20 years.

Acturally, how far was Arimathia from where Jesus was?. I dont even know where Aramathia is.

So because a Joseph was not mentioned at the crucifiction that means he is not Jesus dad, divorced Mary, or died?. Just because he was not at the crucifiction?

I'm still convinced Joseph of Arimathia was his dad.

 

[Corn Pop]

Whenever someone moves thats what they are known by.

So 'Bob from America' moves to Chile. So now Bob is known as 'Bob from Chile'.

Just like Joseph from Nazerith is most possibly Joseph from Arimathia.

Jesus of Nazerith? Jesus of Bethleham?. Jesus of Gallile?, Jesus of wherever he was?

In still convinced Joseph of Arimathia is Jesus dad.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I would think his dad would have been there for his crucifixion, not just arrive later to bury the body. At the very least to comfort his wife, Mary.

 

[tim-from-pa]

I don't think he was his father, but there are apocryphal stories saying he was an uncle -- namely a great maternal uncle being the brother of Heli, Mary's father. This is why he was so bold to ask for the body of Jesus when all the disciples fled. There would be nothing wrong or deemed suspicious with a relative asking for the body of the Lord. I'm sure that the OP is familiar with these stories considering his national background. Are they true or not? I don't know, but I give far more credence to this relationship than just believing he was a righteous man out of nowhere who mustered up the courage to ask for the body of Jesus. I have a fairly detailed royal genealogy hanging on my dining room wall which actually has Joseph of Arimathea in Mary's lineage from King David's son Nathan and his descendents actually became the lineage of the house of Tutor. The rightful Messianic lineage is via Jehoiachin which is where Jesus' father Joseph came from. But that line was cursed and God allowed a bloodline for Messiah to go thru David's son Nathan while transferring the legal lineage via Joseph thus bypassing the curse--- keeping the promise of BOTH a legal and blood heir to David. Meanwhile, so that the throne would not be in abeyance, David's promise of an eternal throne was perpetuated when Zedekiah's daughter married into the Judaic lineage afar off in the Isles where we have the monarchy today. It's interesting to note the the Commonwealth nations, and by extension the United States have become Missionary and powerful nations to the world. (The recent shake-ups like Britain's Brexit and now Donald Trump is no surprise to me as I can see that in Bible prophecy). Traditionally, the Jewish people, the nations of northwest Europe, the Commonwealth and the United States have been on friendly terms despite historical rough spots. I guess blood is thicker than water.

 

[WIP]

Please remember this is the A&T forum. Opposing views need to provide the Scripture to support the position. Arguing based on feelings or what we might "think" don't hold water.

 

[Deborah13]

You can't say because someone was a carpenter and over many years later they cannot change jobs or joined the council just because scripture is not focused on them.

The Sanhedrin were not a club that one could just join. They were educated men, who specialized in the Law, both civil and ritual. The Apostle Paul who was a Pharisee, trained in the Law, studied under the Pharisee Gamaliel, who sat on the Sanhedrin counsel.

Act 22:3 `I, indeed, am a man, a Jew, having been born in Tarsus of Cilicia, and brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, having been taught according to the exactitude of a law of the fathers, being zealous of God, as all ye are to-day.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-sanhedrin
A Sanhedrin in Yavneh took over many of its functions, under the authority of Rabban Gamliel. The rabbis in the Sanhedrin served as judges and attracted students who came to learn their oral traditions and scriptural interpretations. From Yavneh, the Sanhedrin moved to different cities in the Galilee, eventually ending up in Tiberias.

 

[smaller]

Im not convinced anymore. Im now more neutral yet slightly leaning towards possibly not his dad.

A 20 year gap and scripture that focuses on 3.5 years of Jesus mission is pointless trying to figure anything out. If he was around possibly scripture would have mentioned it.

Probably easier just to stick to scripture instead of going out into fairyland.

He was a man called Joseph from Arimathia, thats all, dad or not, he was just a man called Joseph of Arimathia so I'll stop there.

We can very easily derive that they are related. They were both Israelites, Jesus and Joseph of A. They are all related. Go back far enough and we're all related. Acts 17:26.

But to claim Joseph of A. was Joseph, the husband of Mary, is not available sight. I'd say it's unlikely. IF it was critical info we'd have it. We don't. It would have been a very easy footnote to make for any of the Gospel writers.

 

[reba]

I think he is not Jesus earthly father.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Joseph-of-Arimathea.html

Joseph of Arimathea was on the Council. The Sanhedrin. Joseph husband of Mary was a carpenter.

Paul was a tent maker.

I am not taking sides just remembering being told Jewish men , if at all possible, were taught both brain and hand skills

Edited to add supporting scripture ...
Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome and came unto them.
Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

 

[jaybird]

i always thought it strange a direct descendant of David and Solomon, an heir to the thrown, would be living as a common person out in the country. you never see that in any other royal families.

 

[rpguy]

Is there anything scripturely that can lead to believe Joseph of Arimathia could not have been Jesus foster dad?

I'm convinced Joseph of Arimathia was his dad.

A man called Joseph from Arimathia claimed Jesus. Just because the author didn't pen it down was not to say he was not Jesus dad.

Pure speculative wonderment, yeah!

 

[Randy]

i always thought it strange a direct descendant of David and Solomon, an heir to the thrown, would be living as a common person out in the country. you never see that in any other royal families.

Where was David living prior to his anointing?

Jesus is not the Son of David anyway. He is the Son of God who stated, "For it is the one who is least among you all who is the greatest."

The Father appointed Jesus to the line of David by His own authority.
Psalm 89:36
His (David) line shall continue forever. (Jesus never dies)
Psalm 89:26-27
He shall cry to me, ‘You are my Father, (Jesus is God's Son)
my God, and the Rock of my salvation!’ (Jesus stated the Father was His God and He lives by the Father)
27 I will make him the firstborn, (Jesus-Gods firstborn- appointed to the line of David)
the highest of the kings of the earth.9 (The Christ is the greatest and that person is Jesus of Nazareth whom God raised from the dead as proof)

Randy

 

[Jim Parker]

Is there anything scripturely that can lead to believe Joseph of Arimathia could not have been Jesus foster dad?
I'm convinced Joseph of Arimathia was his dad.
A man called Joseph from Arimathia claimed Jesus. Just because the author didn't pen it down was not to say he was not Jesus dad.

There is nothing in scripture to suggest that Joseph of Aramatheia had any relationship to Jesus other than being a secret follower.

Mat 27:57-60 When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathe'a, named Joseph, who also was a disciple of Jesus. He went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate ordered it to be given to him. And Joseph took the body, and wrapped it in a clean linen shroud, and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn in the rock; and he rolled a great stone to the door of the tomb, and departed.

Mar 15:42-43 And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathe'a, a respected member of the council, who was also himself looking for the kingdom of God, took courage and went to Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus.

Jhn 19:38 After this Joseph of Arimathe'a, who was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly, for fear of the Jews, asked Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus, and Pilate gave him leave. So he came and took away his body.

However, we do know exactly Who Jesus' Father is.

Luk 1:35 And the angel said to (Mary), "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God."

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[jaybird]

Where was David living prior to his anointing?

Jesus is not the Son of David anyway. He is the Son of God who stated, "For it is the one who is least among you all who is the greatest."

The Father appointed Jesus to the line of David by His own authority.
Psalm 89:36
His (David) line shall continue forever. (Jesus never dies)
Psalm 89:26-27
He shall cry to me, ‘You are my Father, (Jesus is God's Son)
my God, and the Rock of my salvation!’ (Jesus stated the Father was His God and He lives by the Father)
27 I will make him the firstborn, (Jesus-Gods firstborn- appointed to the line of David)
the highest of the kings of the earth.9 (The Christ is the greatest and that person is Jesus of Nazareth whom God raised from the dead as proof)

Randy

who said Jesus was the son of David?

 

[Jim Parker]

who said Jesus was the son of David?

Mat 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham: