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Bible Study Judas Iscariot
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PhilipJames
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Hello all,
'Judge not and you shall not be judged...condemn not and you shall not be condemned...'
Only God knows what was in Judas' heart at the time of his death, and only God knows where he will spend eternity...
I'll leave the judging to Jesus, because I know He'll judge rightly.
Peace!
PJ
'Judge not and you shall not be judged...condemn not and you shall not be condemned...'
Only God knows what was in Judas' heart at the time of his death, and only God knows where he will spend eternity...
I'll leave the judging to Jesus, because I know He'll judge rightly.
Peace!
PJ
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I think he also committed suicide. I believe this man was never saved to begin with. Matthew 27:5.
n2thelight
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Matthew 27:3
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders
Deborah13
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What does "repented himself" mean? Why the "himself" and not just "repented"?
thisnumbersdisconnected
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That is an excellent attitude to have, but it is really only half the story.
1 Corinthians 6 NASB
3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?
The portion of Scripture you quote does not provide the context in which Jesus said those words.3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?
Luke 6
32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
33 "If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
34 "If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount.
35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
36 "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."
Jesus was talking about being real with everyone, not withdrawing from the "unclean" of the world simply because we think we're better than them because we have what they don't. We ain't better than nobody!32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
33 "If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
34 "If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount.
35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
36 "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."
That is not to be our attitude, an attitude that is based on wrongly judging. Certainly they are lost, but it is our job, upon making that judgment, to give them information required to get "found."
I did not provide context for my quote of 1 Corinthians 6:3 either. I used it to make a point. And that point is very similar to your own.
! Corinthians 6
1 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 4 So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, 6 but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged ? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.
I believe both these passages teach us a great deal about how we are to judge, rather than to not judge at all. Both Jesus and Paul are saying to use our liberty and our salvation with humility, not considering ourselves greater than those still lost, and not considering the world to have answers for us when God is our Justice.1 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 4 So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, 6 but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged ? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.
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duari91
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God made the fate of Judas very clear in the bible. There is no need to judge. Read what God has said.
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If this man had repented and had turned to Jesus, he wouldn't of committed suicide.
I think Judas realized that people were on to what he had done by selling out Christ and a guilt trip came upon him because he was busted. He tried to alleviate his heavy burden of guilt by returning the money. When this didn't help he hung himself and that didn't even work out well because in his attempt to hang himself the noose broke and he fell and his guts spilled out.
It makes no mention that he repented to God and that's what he needed to do or that he was even was sorry for what he had done to God. He could have been forgiven and healed emotionally by God but he elected to do it his way.
Deborah13
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Mountain Man
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We are told to work out "your" or our salvation with "fear and trembling"....not anyone else's
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I don't know much about Samson, do you have new teachings of this life. Blessings.
[MENTION=93656]urk[/MENTION] Judges 13 a couple chapters
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Please provide me with links if you can.
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Samson never took his life; he sacrificed it for his people. There is a big difference. Samson’s actions were not condemned or seen as suicide (self-murder) his final act of life was actually a selfless action of giving up his life for the sake of his people.