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Listen To Secular Music?

Free said:
And please note that I'm saying what I was convicted of and what I listen to. I'm not saying that all Christians need to listen to only Christian music. That is something all believers have to discuss with God.
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Well I'm totally fine with it. I believe it NEEDS to be that way for every Christian. I think my big problem is with what I was referring to in the OP. The judgmentalism bit has got to go IMO.

But I fully agree with your stand, and in some ways I admire it. I do think music is ultimately created by and for God, and should glorify Him. It's just that I think the music in Heaven will be of the kind of quality it was meant to be on earth, and we're just not there yet to be restricting all believers to never listening to secular. Comes off as of too much of a condemning spirit to be walking in for me.
 
Free said:
There is music of almost every genre within Christian music, including very moody and melancholic stuff.

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That's not bad, but they never really drive it home. As a guitar player, I was actually hearing in my head where they could have taken it to add more of an emotional tone to the song. A crescendo! I really could do something with that.

Anyways, I have two questions for you. What makes a purely instrumental song Christian, and if the musicians are Christian, does that make the music they produce by extension Christian music?
 
Ok, and let me sort of up the ante here. I find the same problems in the Christian film industry. There can be good elements in it, but overall the quality can be really poor sometimes.

I had a sister send me this recently cuz she wanted my opinion on it. I never saw it when it came out, so I thought well, Ok, let's see what we think here. About 10-15 minutes in I was wondering who on earth let this guy direct, because it was so over the top as to make the movie ridiculous. And the sad part is, if you watch it all the way to the end, the storyline was actually pretty decent. If it had been taken by a director who actually knew what he was doing, it might have been made into a pretty decent film.


But this is what I'm talking about. The standards in quality aren't in keeping with the state of the art that's in the world. Should we expect that from the church? I'm inclined to say Yes, we should. We have the Spirit of God within us. Why should we not be able to at least match the quality being produced by the world? But we don't. IMO we fall short.

Again, this ceases to be a problem when the church isn't being judgmental, but it becomes a big one when she is.
 
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Hidden In Him said:
Ok, and let me sort of up the ante here. I find the same problems in the Christian film industry. There can be good elements in it, but overall the quality can be really poor sometimes.

I had a sister send me this recently cuz she wanted my opinion on it. I never saw it when it came out, so I thought well, Ok, let's see what we think here. About 10-15 minutes in I was wondering who on earth let this guy direct, because it was so over the top as to make the movie ridiculous. And the sad part is, if you watch it all the way to the end, the storyline was actually pretty decent. If it had been taken by a director who actually knew what he was doing, it might have been made into a pretty decent film.


But this is what I'm talking about. The standards in quality aren't in keeping with the state of the art that's in the world. Should we expect that from the church? I'm inclined to say Yes, we should. We have the Spirit of God within us. Why should we not be able to at least match the quality being produced by the world? But we don't. IMO we fall short.

Again, this ceases to be a problem when the church isn't being judgmental, but it becomes a big one when she is.
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Yeah, that's really bad. I watched this one all the way through and I must say, I actually did enjoy it. But I tend to stay away from Christian films produced by Hollywood as well. Especially the ones with Nicolas Cage. Lol.

 
Riven said:
Yeah, that's really bad. I watched this one all the way through and I must say, I actually did enjoy it. But I tend to stay away from Christian films produced by Hollywood as well. Especially the ones with Nicolas Cage. Lol.

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Never saw it. May look into this one as well.

The Jesus in Jesus of Nazareth was a little... not sure what the word was, Cerebral? Airy? Spooky? But the movie was well directed. The Passion was decent as well, but rough. But The Nativity of Christ was actually from the Muslim perspective, though they failed to tell Christians that, Lol. You never know what you will get from Hollywood these days. It's like a box of chocolates.

Hmmm... and where have I heard that before?

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Hidden In Him said:
The Jesus in Jesus of Nazareth was a little... not sure what the word was, Cerebral? Airy? Spooky? But the movie was well directed.
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That's the one from the 70's, right? I haven't seen it.

Hidden In Him said:
The Passion was decent as well, but rough.
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That film, while brutal to watch, truly made me feel like I had been transported 2,000 years into the past and I was actually watching the events of the bible play out in front of me. The language, the attention to detail in everything. Magnificent.

Hidden In Him said:
But The Nativity of Christ was actually from the Muslim perspective, though they failed to tell Christians that, Lol.
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Really? But the Muslims believe that Christ was only a prophet, right?

Hidden In Him said:
You never know what you will get from Hollywood these days. It's like a box of chocolates.

Hmmm... and where have I heard that before?

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That's good advice for anyone. It should be in the bible, I think. Lol.
 
Hidden In Him said:
Well I knew an opposing opinion was coming eventually, so I appreciate it.

Let me ask you about this. I get into complex music, and the church really doesn't produce any. And I find it mentally stimulating. Do you take the position that that it has to be produced by a Christian to be mentally stimulating as well?
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Hidden In Him , you need to get out your multi-track recorder and make that Christian prog rock album you always wanted to record :idea . Riven and I can track some with you , I will have to woodshed some though :rocking.
 
Riven said:
That's not bad, but they never really drive it home. As a guitar player, I was actually hearing in my head where they could have taken it to add more of an emotional tone to the song. A crescendo! I really could do something with that.
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Post-rock is generally more ambient and tends to the chill side.

Riven said:
Anyways, I have two questions for you. What makes a purely instrumental song Christian, and if the musicians are Christian, does that make the music they produce by extension Christian music?
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I consider it Christian if the musicians are Christian.
 
Riven said:
That's not bad, but they never really drive it home. As a guitar player, I was actually hearing in my head where they could have taken it to add more of an emotional tone to the song. A crescendo! I really could do something with that.

Anyways, I have two questions for you. What makes a purely instrumental song Christian, and if the musicians are Christian, does that make the music they produce by extension Christian music?
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U2 is a band of Christians.
They don't write Christian music.
I guess 40 is Christian. Psalm 40.

But it affects their music.
They write about serious and interesting and beautiful topics.

Been my favorite band for 40 years now.
Although at the moment I enjoy Coldplay,
Weeknd and The Killers.
 
wondering said:
Did you know that Alice Cooper was a self-proclaimed Christian? Heard him with my own ears.
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Yes, I've heard that. Even the lead singer of Slayer says he is a Christian. They made this song titled "God hates us all" and when asked about it in an interview, he said no, it's just a song, and that God doesn't hate.

It makes me wonder if they just see it like actors see movie roles. I'm playing a part, but it's not actually me. But then my question is, how serious is their faith? Is it just a vague belief in God? Because i think that if you're more serious about it, you wouldn't sing a song like that.
 
I dunno 🤷‍♂️

Not to sound holier than thou but I’m getting over mass media. Even going back to Elvis and the Beatles…

Sure they were talented. Money talks and entertainment is an industry. Even so called indie groups have their demographic and a lot of that is selling a lifestyle not just quality music.

It’s not just music. Novels? Mostly focused on the upper classes and the publishing industry is under tight corporate control. Few writers get published. Few of those who get a sufficient income to support themselves. A couple of big names dominate the industry.

So I dunno 🤷‍♂️ back to prayer and the humdrum things of everything life…
 
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