Bible Study Matthew 23

[belovedwolfofgod]

Hey fulton, sounds like this guy smacks of spiritual pride in ways I cant explain. I think he may need to grow up some more before talking with him is profitable... IMHO.

 

[John the Baptist]

:o
Who is calling the kittle black? :wink:

"We have no right to ask reasons of the church, any more than of Almighty God, as a preliminary to our submission.
We take with unquestioning docility, whatever instruction the church gives us." -The Catholic World-- page 589.

Sure sounds brain dead to me. Whatever? Revelation 17:1-5 ---John

 

[thessalonian]

:o
Who is calling the kittle black? :wink:

"We have no right to ask reasons of the church, any more than of Almighty God, as a preliminary to our submission.
We take with unquestioning docility, whatever instruction the church gives us." -The Catholic World-- page 589.

Sure sounds brain dead to me. Whatever? Revelation 17:1-5 ---John

John, what's a kittle?

So did you get that quote out of your monthly subscripture to "The Catholic World"? Or is it out of some anti-catholic propoganda? You don't have a subscription do you John. You paint your view of Catholics based on one quote by one person don't you. That's called broadbrushing John. That's called prejudice. Do you always judge whole groups of people as zombies in this manner? It would seem so from my experiences with you.

 

[John the Baptist]

[Quote:}
"That's called broadbrushing John. That's called prejudice. Do you always judge whole groups of people as zombies in this manner? It would seem so from my experiences with you."

Yes Lord, I see the Douy Version has removed the K.J. caps on Revelation 17:5, yet they still leave [you] with what some call 'broad/brushing' & what some also say ... 'that is prejudice'?

"And upon her forehead a name written-a mystery-Babylon the great, the mother of harlotries and of the abominations of the earth." Yes, perhaps brain dead is to good of a word for the leadership. But it is good to see that their Douay bible clears the other folds of this abomination! :o

"We hold upon earth the place of God Almighty"
--Pope Leo X111, in an Encyclical Letter, 1884

--The Catholic World pg. 442-423.
"All dogmatic decrees of the Pope, made with or without his general council, are infallible ... Once made, no pope or council can reverse them... This is the Catholic principle, that the Church cannot err in faith."

Then of course we see the open printed trite that is about the same as Matthew 23's denouncing of Christ, being in almost daily print for some time, not to mention their Abominablel doctrines seen above.

For any that might be so blind as to think that Christ is inside these very open 'harlotries' is far worse than brain dead! Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse states it this way: (I will give the Catholic Douay Josue, in part)
".. because he is defiled with the anathema. [I will be no more with you], till you destroy him that is guilty of this wickedness."

If Rome ever as a fold was accepted in the first place, which they were not, it is for sure that their candlestick of Revelation 2:5 would have been long gone years ago! Or the Godhead would have apologized to the pre/flood ones for only having 120 years of the Holy Spirit STRIVING with them! But no, their boundaries have long ago gone past the SIN UNTO DEATH of 1 John 5:16-17, from the top on down to the priest!

Priest?? Could any with a Born Again mind honestly believe that these ones could even approach Christ for anyone that knows no better? See John 9:31, or see Isaiah 59:1-2!

---John

 

[thessalonian]

[Quote:}
"That's called broadbrushing John. That's called prejudice. Do you always judge whole groups of people as zombies in this manner? It would seem so from my experiences with you."

Yes Lord, I see the Douy Version has removed the K.J. caps on Revelation 17:5, yet they still leave [you] with what some call 'broad/brushing' & what some also say ... 'that is prejudice'?

John are you going to answer me or just slide off to other issues you think are legitimate, attained from more anti-catholic propoganda?

"And upon her forehead a name written-a mystery-Babylon the great, the mother of harlotries and of the abominations of the earth." Yes, perhaps brain dead is to good of a word for the leadership. But it is good to see that their Douay bible clears the other folds of this abomination! :o

Yes, John, I have 666 on my forehead and so do all the popes. Haven't you seen it. Braindead? Have you read the writings of JP II or Benedict XVI, or Leo XIII whom you disparage below? These men are brain dead?

"We hold upon earth the place of God Almighty"
--Pope Leo X111, in an Encyclical Letter, 1884

Let's place it in context shall we.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13praec.htm
Christ said "he who hears you hears me." . "You are the light of the world". We bring Christ to the world. We represent him. In context these words should not be scandalous to a Christian. But John counts on others not researching his inuendo and therefore perpetuates the scandal that is trumped up by anti-catholic liars.

--The Catholic World pg. 442-423.
"All dogmatic decrees of the Pope, made with or without his general council, are infallible ... Once made, no pope or council can reverse them... This is the Catholic principle, that the Church cannot err in faith."

More handwaving without understanding John. There are few papal decrees of this natrue. Those that there are are quite defensible. It is the Church that is the pillar and support of the truth John. Not the I god that you live by. My bible and I.

Then of course we see the open printed trite that is about the same as Matthew 23's denouncing of Christ, being in almost daily print for some time, not to mention their Abominablel doctrines seen above.

That truth can be known instead of the thousands of denominations that are the fruit of the post reformation deformation is not abominable John. Division of Christianity in to pieces by those who assert the god of I is what is abomnible. Following the doctrines of men which is clearly what the denominationalism of Christinity is, is abomnible.

For any that might be so blind as to think that Christ is inside these very open 'harlotries' is far worse than brain dead! Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse states it this way: (I will give the Catholic Douay Josue, in part)
".. because he is defiled with the anathema. [I will be no more with you], till you destroy him that is guilty of this wickedness."

I am wicked, hey john.

If Rome ever as a fold was accepted in the first place, which they were not, it is for sure that their candlestick of Revelation 2:5 would have been long gone years ago! Or the Godhead would have apologized to the pre/flood ones for only having 120 years of the Holy Spirit STRIVING with them! But no, their boundaries have long ago gone past the SIN UNTO DEATH of 1 John 5:16-17, from the top on down to the priest!

Are these all your words John or are you just cutting a pasting. A ref would be nice for this biggotry.

Priest?? Could any with a Born Again mind honestly believe that these ones could even approach Christ for anyone that knows no better? See John 9:31, or see Isaiah 59:1-2!

Is 59? Wasn't that in the Old Testament, written when there was priests John? You claim that it is against priests? John 9:31 was written when priests still had authority as well John. The scriptures in John 8 and 11 speak of the authority of Caiphas the high priest. Matt 23:2 says "the scribes and pharasees sit on moses seat. Therefore DO WHATEVER THEY TELL YOU. Lot's more examples but you will not hear them.

 

[John the Baptist]

Seeing that the dead past prophet E.G. White of the Adventist church has become so well publicly bashed, I thought that I would repost some of her thought from Early Writings pg.. 273-4 in part only. Here we see the Revelation 17:5 ones, who are called the ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH (in caps) for the simple reason that, that is what they have now become. Be sure to ask yourself if this is not exactly as you see in everyday openly documented print, & on the World T.V. news of today.

"I saw that since the second angel proclaimed (see Revelation 14:6-10) the fall of the churches, they have been growing more and more corrupt. They bear the name of being Christ's followers; yet it is impossible to distinguish them from the world. Ministers take their texts from the Word of God, but preach smooth things. ... there is nothing in the popular ministry that stirs the wrath of Satan, makes the sinner tremble, or applies to the heart and conscience the fearful realities of the judgement soon to come. Wicked men are generally pleased with a form of piety without true godliness, and they would aid and support such a religion.

Said the angel, Nothing less than the whole armor of righteousness can enable man to overcome the powers of darkness and retain victory over them. Satan has taken full possession of the churches as a body. The sayings and doings of men are dwelt upon instead of the plain cutting truths of the Word of God. ... They are Satan's faithful servants, notwithstanding they have assumed another name.

I saw that since Jesus left the holy place of the heavenly sanctuary and entered within the second Vail, the churches have been filling up with every unclean and hateful bird. I saw great iniquity and vileness in the churches; yet their members profess to be Christians. Their profession, their prayers, and their exhortations are an abomination in the sight of God. Said the angel, "God will not smell in their assemblies. Selfishness, fraud, and deceit are practiced by them without the reproving of conscience. And over all these evil traits they throw the cloak of religion." I was shown the pride of the nominal churches. God is not in their thoughts; their carnal minds dwell upon themselves; they decorate their poor mortal bodies, and then look upon themselves with satisfaction and pleasure. Jesus and the angels look upon them in anger. ... An innumerable host of evil angels are spreading over the whole land and crowding the churches. These agents of Satan look upon the religious bodies with exultation, for the cloak of religion covers the greatest crime and iniquity."


Forum: Take a check in any church denomination around today. How do they look to you? Even in Revelation 3:16-17 we see Christ telling the True Virgin Fold that they make Him SICK! And He says that they will be SPEWED OUT! You best find out why that is!

You might look at the church of (church & state) Rome? yet, most likely most on this site already see this fold as the Revelation 17:5 anti/Christ?
So just stick with all of the other denominations for what they look like today, as compared to when the reformation started? Even skip doctrines at first & consider what you see documented day in & day out.

And we have a Bible Study asking about Matthew 23. Read Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 & Ecclesiastes 3:15 for the Masters quick answer!
And I suggest that any sincere one now read & study Hebrews 6:6 & 2 Peter 2:19-22 for this Pope Peter stuff!

After reading the two above verses, who do you feel sorrow for, these great mass of broadway folk's [fold], or the one being [Crucified afresh] and put to an [OPEN SHAME]?? And some of you call this denomination a Christian one????? If it be Christ that you love, why so little if any response? Re/read Revelation 3:16-17!

 

[thessalonian]

Oh, yeah John that clears it all up. How does Heb 6:6 refute the papacy. Do you judge us as not being sorry for our sins and asking God's forgiveness. Are you good at fortunetelling as well John. I guess you think there are no leaders in the Church with Peter's words. Yet you assert the false doctrine of Ellen G. White, a false prophetess, i.e.. Surely you have read Heb 13:17. Maybe not.

 

[John the Baptist]

Oh, yeah John that clears it all up. How does Heb 6:6 refute the papacy. Do you judge us as not being sorry for our sins and asking God's forgiveness. Are you good at fortunetelling as well John. I guess you think there are no leaders in the Church with Peter's words. Yet you assert the false doctrine of Ellen G. White, a false prophetess, i.e.. Surely you have read Heb 13:17. Maybe not.

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False prophet? Well now, she sure hit the nail [SQUARELY] on the head with that statement of [Early Writings]!
And where are 'most' all the other daughters of Rome? Most denominations are all in bed with you as they are mostly infiltrated with your Jesuits 'members' with out a doubt? At least, your devil's Daniel 7:25 junk/food + Matthew 23!

And Hebrews 13:17 Truth has something to do with the devils antichrist rome??? Come on, get real!

---John

 

[thessalonian]

No, I don't see here words as true. The Churches today quite nicely fit Jesus words "there will be tares among the wheat" "wolves amond the sheep". Some in the Church tickle ears as she says, but not all by any means. Ellen G was one of the wolves among the sheep. That is clear to me. She caused division and lead people astray with her personal opinions and false prophecy. Here words justify biggotry. If she did have visions or hear voices they were of the devil.

God bless John

 

[John the Baptist]

No, I don't see here words as true. The Churches today quite nicely fit Jesus words "there will be tares among the wheat" "wolves amond the sheep". Some in the Church tickle ears as she says, but not all by any means. Ellen G was one of the wolves among the sheep. That is clear to me. She caused division and lead people astray with her personal opinions and false prophecy. Here words justify biggotry. If she did have visions or hear voices they were of the devil.

God bless John

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Her quote that I posted once again friend, hit the nail SQUARELY on the head, PERFECTLY!

And your 2 Corinthians 4:2 remark of the Wheat & the Tares growing together is needing much more study to confuse this forum. (at least some)

Wheat & Tares are individuals that are not [OPEN FLAGRANT SINNERS]. Do you know what open unrepentant flagrant sinners are?
The reason [forum] that these both grow together is that NO ONE can read ones 'individual' mind. Is that hard to understand??? The doctrines od the Catholic church 'stink!' (BIG TIME!) Yet, inside of this mess, Christ has ignorant yet sincere Revelation 18:4 'MY PEOPLE!" Even in Christ's day on earth here, it was NOTHING NEW! See His Words of John 10:16! Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 & Ecclesiastes 3:15

This dude here wants it both ways! He says that they grow together, yet Rome gave the boot to Martin Luther huh? Why, if they are all to grow together? Naw, Luther + many of the early ones, had it right calling Rome.. which even violates church & state as Christ forbade, (Matthew 22:17-21 = John 19:15) to be knowingly called the antichrist! A Christ/less church will again need the power of Government to execute Christians)

Again forum, we are living in the last days, and Matthew 23 is the last days of old Israel. How any would want to be yoked together with Rome of today is beyond me! Ask yourself what the reformers of yesterday would be saying today? Henry might not have it all together as of yet, yet he is no cop-out like some of the Revelation 3:16-17 ones!! Hello ex/Adventists!!
---John

 

[thessalonian]

Thx for your personal interpretation and opinion John. It's been fun but this really is a waste of my time. Besides in engagind in this conversation with you I am encouraging you to blaspheme Jesus Christ in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is not good for your soul.

 

[Henry]

Thx for your personal interpretation and opinion John. It's been fun but this really is a waste of my time. Besides in engagind in this conversation with you I am encouraging you to blaspheme Jesus Christ in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is not good for your soul.

Oh please as if you have not merely followed mens personal interpretations and pretty bad ones to.

The Mass is a mockery nothing holy about it.

 

[Fulton Sheen's Warrior]

+JMJ+

Oh please as if you have not merely followed mens personal interpretations and pretty bad ones to.

The Mass is a mockery nothing holy about it.

Is that what you learned from actual study of the Mass?

Or did you just read it from an Anti-Catholic book and decided it must be true?

 

[Henry]

I place NO authority what so ever in any thing the RCC teaches. NONE !!!

If the Pope said it, I know it is *&^^(*@#%&*#)Q@

 

[John the Baptist]

I place NO authority what so ever in any thing the RCC teaches. NONE !!!

If the Pope said it, I know it is *&^^(*@#%&*#)Q@

Is that in tongues? :wink: But, do you not know that if the Pope wrote that & then said that it meant.. :o, whatever? It is then Catholic doctrine. And then we would have these guys come on here & tell us that the Pope cannot err!

---John

 

[thessalonian]

I place NO authority what so ever in any thing the RCC teaches. NONE !!!

If the Pope said it, I know it is *&^^(*@#%&*#)Q@

So henry, you disagree with this?


1. “God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him†(1 Jn 4:16). These words from the First Letter of John express with remarkable clarity the heart of the Christian faith: the Christian image of God and the resulting image of mankind and its destiny. In the same verse, Saint John also offers a kind of summary of the Christian life: “We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for usâ€Â.

We have come to believe in God's love: in these words the Christian can express the fundamental decision of his life. Being Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction. Saint John's Gospel describes that event in these words: “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should ... have eternal life†(3:16). In acknowledging the centrality of love, Christian faith has retained the core of Israel's faith, while at the same time giving it new depth and breadth. The pious Jew prayed daily the words of the Book of Deuteronomy which expressed the heart of his existence: “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your might†(6:4-5). Jesus united into a single precept this commandment of love for God and the commandment of love for neighbour found in the Book of Leviticus: “You shall love your neighbour as yourself†(19:18; cf. Mk 12:29-31). Since God has first loved us (cf. 1 Jn 4:10), love is now no longer a mere “commandâ€Â; it is the response to the gift of love with which God draws near to us.

Pope Benedict XVI

Is this BS too Henry?

The universality of this salvation in Christ is asserted throughout the New Testament. St. Paul acknowledges the risen Christ as the Lord. He writes: "Although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth - as indeed there are many 'gods' and many 'lords' - yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist" (1 Cor 8:5-6). One God and one Lord are asserted by way of contrast to the multitude of "gods" and "lords" commonly accepted. Paul reacts against the polytheism of the religious environment of his time and emphasizes what is characteristic of the Christian faith: belief in one God and in one Lord sent by God.

In the Gospel of St. John, this salvific universality of Christ embraces all the aspects of his mission of grace, truth and revelation: the Word is "the true light that enlightens every man" (Jn 1:9). And again, "no one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known" (Jn 1:18; cf. Mt 11:27). God's revelation becomes definitive and complete through his only-begotten Son: "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom he also created the world" (Heb 1:1-2; cf. Jn 14:6). In this definitive Word of his revelation, God has made himself known in the fullest possible way. He has revealed to mankind who he is. This definitive self-revelation of God is the fundamental reason why the Church is missionary by her very nature. She cannot do other than proclaim the Gospel, that is, the fullness of the truth which God has enabled us to know about himself.

Christ is the one mediator between God and mankind: "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth" (1 Tm 2:5-7; cf. Heb 4:14-16). No one, therefore, can enter into communion with God except through Christ, by the working of the Holy Spirit. Christ's one, universal mediation, far from being an obstacle on the journey toward God, is the way established by God himself, a fact of which Christ is fully aware. Although participated forms of mediation of different kinds and degrees are not excluded, they acquire meaning and value only from Christ's own mediation, and they cannot be understood as parallel or complementary to his.


Are you going to curse these things as well? Do you really hate Catholics this bad Henry?

May God bless you richly Henry

 

[John the Baptist]

I place NO authority what so ever in any thing the RCC teaches. NONE !!!

If the Pope said it, I know it is *&^^(*@#%&*#)Q@

So henry, you disagree with this?


1. “God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him†(1 Jn 4:16). These words from the First Letter of John express with remarkable clarity the heart of the Christian faith: the Christian image of God and the resulting image of mankind and its destiny. In the same verse, Saint John also offers a kind of summary of the Christian life: “We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for usâ€Â.

We have come to believe in God's love: in these words the Christian can express the fundamental decision of his life. Being Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction. Saint John's Gospel describes that event in these words: “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should ... have eternal life†(3:16). In acknowledging the centrality of love, Christian faith has retained the core of Israel's faith, while at the same time giving it new depth and breadth. The pious Jew prayed daily the words of the Book of Deuteronomy which expressed the heart of his existence: “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your might†(6:4-5). Jesus united into a single precept this commandment of love for God and the commandment of love for neighbour found in the Book of Leviticus: “You shall love your neighbour as yourself†(19:18; cf. Mk 12:29-31). Since God has first loved us (cf. 1 Jn 4:10), love is now no longer a mere “commandâ€Â; it is the response to the gift of love with which God draws near to us.

Pope Benedict XVI

Is this oopsie too Henry?

The universality of this salvation in Christ is asserted throughout the New Testament. St. Paul acknowledges the risen Christ as the Lord. He writes: "Although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth - as indeed there are many 'gods' and many 'lords' - yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist" (1 Cor 8:5-6). One God and one Lord are asserted by way of contrast to the multitude of "gods" and "lords" commonly accepted. Paul reacts against the polytheism of the religious environment of his time and emphasizes what is characteristic of the Christian faith: belief in one God and in one Lord sent by God.

In the Gospel of St. John, this salvific universality of Christ embraces all the aspects of his mission of grace, truth and revelation: the Word is "the true light that enlightens every man" (Jn 1:9). And again, "no one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known" (Jn 1:18; cf. Mt 11:27). God's revelation becomes definitive and complete through his only-begotten Son: "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom he also created the world" (Heb 1:1-2; cf. Jn 14:6). In this definitive Word of his revelation, God has made himself known in the fullest possible way. He has revealed to mankind who he is. This definitive self-revelation of God is the fundamental reason why the Church is missionary by her very nature. She cannot do other than proclaim the Gospel, that is, the fullness of the truth which God has enabled us to know about himself.

Christ is the one mediator between God and mankind: "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth" (1 Tm 2:5-7; cf. Heb 4:14-16). No one, therefore, can enter into communion with God except through Christ, by the working of the Holy Spirit. Christ's one, universal mediation, far from being an obstacle on the journey toward God, is the way established by God himself, a fact of which Christ is fully aware. Although participated forms of mediation of different kinds and degrees are not excluded, they acquire meaning and value only from Christ's own mediation, and they cannot be understood as parallel or complementary to his.


Are you going to curse these things as well? Do you really hate Catholics this bad Henry?


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Just a thought here, (and no I am not Henry)
The post you posted is something to give authority to the antichrist pope???

And not only that, but you are using jesuit tactics, saying that anyone hear has ever stated that they hate anyone period! Are you a jesuit catholic? What kind of answer might I get back on that one? :wink:

Anyway, I do not believe in censor, but if you were even 'pretending' to be a Christian, an apology to Henry would be long over do! See 2 Corinthians 4:2

There is NO HATE for catholics, just their satanic antichrist [DOCTRINES]. See Revelation 18:4 for 'our' understanding on this, forum.

Again, the post even twists & perverts [openly] ones messages. Lies about individuals should not be tolerated!

---John

 

[Fulton Sheen's Warrior]

+JMJ+

Just a thought here, (and no I am not Henry)
The post you posted is something to give authority to the antichrist pope???

You have absolutely no solid evidence that the Pope is the Anti-Christ.

And not only that, but you are using jesuit tactics, saying that anyone hear has ever stated that they hate anyone period! Are you a jesuit catholic? What kind of answer might I get back on that one?

What would that have to do with anything? Jesuits are an order of Priests.

Again, the post even twists & perverts [openly] ones messages. Lies about individuals should not be tolerated!

I could say the same for you.

 

[John the Baptist]

The TRUE ANTICHRIST CULT must have complete 'one man' authority!! Notice his DOCUMENTED work. "All dogmatic decrees of [the Pope], made with or without his general council, ARE INFALLIBLE ... Once made, no pope or council can reverse them ... This IS THE CATHOLIC PRINCIPLE, that the CHURCH CANNOT ERR IN FAITH." --The Catholic World, pgs. 422-423.

OK: That is the first [TOP] priority. 's'atan has himself in charge of a number one human man! See Gen. 4:7's start & Revelation 3:9's ending. This is, & ever was satin's antichrist denomination. (and who took over when Christ left Israel of old? See Matthew 23:38 when they BECAME DESOLATE OF CHRIST)

Number two: A CULT ANTICHRIST must have a 'SECOND' book held in high esteem that is opposite to the Bible! In this time frame, It IS THE 'CATECHISM! It even openly changes the Commandments of God! [ANTICHRIST!] See
1 John 2:4 & Isaiah 8:20.

Number three: Surely it MUST HAVE A LARGE BROADWAY WORLDWIDE CULT MEMBERSHIP! See Matt. 7 & Rev. 17:5!! To have DAUGHTERS this denomination was here FIRST, huh?

Again, the TRUE LEADER of even the Pope, was seen working before the flood in Cain! (Gen. 4:7) Notice whose his 'DESIRE' now was!
A denomination has always been found by satan to 'FORM-or have them become a FOLD' that would do this [FIRST CULT LEADER'S WORK]. See Rev. 2:5. (well, who would now take over!?) But, you can rest assured that Rome never was one of the Seven church's to begin with!

Cain killed his brother. Cain was still a professor of worship! He brought an ANTICHRIST SACRIFICE! As does Rome in having sun attempting to replace God's eternal Sabbath Day Covenant! (see Daniel 7:25 & Hebrews 13:20)

Rome, also is and was a MURDERER (from the beginning) as is DOCUMENTED in Fox Book of Martyr's. It states that is MIGHT EVEN BE A LOW ESTIMATE, OF UPWARD TO AN HUNDRED MILLION KILLED BY ROME, OF CHRISTIAN MARTYRS!! :

Take note: This is satan's church! Look around you today! These LEADERS ARE [OPEN PARTAKERS] of ALL OF THIS EVIL! See Rev. 18:4! And in a quote that I posted some days ago, about Pope John Paul 11 suggesting that voodoo believers would not betray their traditional faith by 'converting to Christianity'. ('From the Los Angeles Times' 2/5/93) See the K.J. on Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse for such Open Documented Apostasy!

CHRISTIANS?? Hardly can a person be [HONEST] calling an CULT ANTICHRIST denomination [CHRISTIAN!] Saying such would make any person a PARTAKER! And the Lord's CALL is for the [IGNORANT BABES IN CHRIST THAT HE HAS THERE, TO LEAVE]!! Again SEE John 5:16!! And you can rest assured that He still has some in yoked membership there who knows no better! Now ask yourself who Loves Christ and these 'ignorant' ones that He died for??

And NOW: We see satan still doing his evil work in suggesting that there is another antichrist?? Wow! what is new, God say's NOTHING!! See Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 & Ecclesiastes 3:15. Sure, it is another 'fold' but still with the same leader, satan!

---John

 

[Fulton Sheen's Warrior]

+JMJ+

Problem.

1.) John 4:3 - "And every spirit that dissloveth Jesus is not of God. And this is the Antichrist of whom you have heard that he commeth:and he is now already in the world."

Do you know of any Popes that did not love Jesus? Or expressed hatred toward Jesus?

2.) 2 John 7 - "For many seducers are gone out into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a seducer and an Antichrist."

It is basic Catholic doctrine that the Word was made flesh. No Pope or Council ever denied this mystery.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-11 - The Antichrist is going to sit in the temple of God.
.....Surely you would not call the Vatican a temple of God? :wink:

If anything it would make more sense that the Antichrist would rebuild the temple of Jerusalem and make himself the Messiah.

Or the temple of God could be in some Christian church, and the Antichrist could come and pervert this church to his own worship like Mohammad did in the churches of the East.