Moses

[Classik]

There seems to be two issues here:

1. I keep wondering, what if Moses had made it into the Promised Land?

2. Was following an article. Article describes Moses as having anger as his weak point. That is to say he easy got angry. I aways believe Moses was a very friendly man - and a meek man indeed.

So I find it hard to describe him as temperamental (with anger). Can one be meek and at the same time easily upset? NO. What he like really

 

[reba]

Moses hit the Rock a second time..... the Living water ... we can be angry and sin not.

Num 20:8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
Num 20:9 And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him.
Num 20:10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?
Num 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
Num 20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Hola Cassic,
Reba has posted the best example of the sin of Moses so I'll, as usual, just mouth off about the Life application.Moses, as I see him being a lot like the lost version of Bill Taylor. Moses had, through a circuitous route ascended onto the stage of importance. He spent 40 years in the wilderness, perhaps, the best educated man in all of Africa and Mesopotamia, herding sheep, the king of his realm?

I carried my guitars, mikes and gear to and from the Juke Joints with the ladies making me feel like the king with his harem as I lorded it over the men that were stupid enough to follow me around, hoping for the overflow. My herd was a bit more corrupt than the one Moses shepherded about from field to field and he never had to flea flick the drunks for deciding to pound his head.

I was often found under somebodies car repairing it for less than half my hourly wage and in the case of Break Jobs, if they bought the pucks and shoes, I worked for a sandwich and drinks. I believe it was the '88/'89 winter that on Christmas Eve that I spent all day and several hours of the evening repairing the copper water-pipe, supply pipe, for the sherriff's lady friend, free. I was considered to be one sweet man. I never got mad until the party had gotten way to far gone but when it did, I often surprised everyone and tore through the ranks, often, after ¿winning? to go get myself sewed up.

This is a microbit of what Moses dealt with, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year for forty years. Every time I read this account, I am amazed Moses did not murder them all.

 

[Edward]

There seems to be two issues here:

1. I keep wondering, what if Moses had made it into the Promised Land?

2. Was following an article. Article describes Moses as having anger as his weak point. That is to say he easy got angry. I aways believe Moses was a very friendly man - and a meek man indeed.

So I find it hard to describe him as temperamental (with anger). Can one be meek and at the same time easily upset? NO. What he like really

You got it all wrong brother. The meekest most loving person that there is...can get extremely angry. Point God. God is love, right? and yet, He speaks much of His anger and wrath that is to come.

How about your wife? Same thing there. She loves you? How do you know? Because she kisses you and says I love you? uh-uh. I know you guys argue sometimes, we all do. How angry does she get? That's a good sign in a way brother. As angry as she gets...can be construed to how deeply that she loves you.

The time to worry is when she stops getting angry at you and becomes indifferent.

Some say that women are God. Ha-ha right? But it may not be too far off from the thought. God speaks of his anger, jealousy, and wrath...and He loves you enough to die for you. But you better not go a whoring after other Gods because he has warned you that you are to be in fear of Him. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[YogiD2]

hard to put into words.
ive never been in a "jail", an many would say im not one to go off the handle. but i have been in fights, and been in a "rage" a time or two. most everyone imo even moses, jesus, or a preacher has a limit. we can repress our temper but eventually it boils up

 

[Deborah13]

There seems to be two issues here:

1. I keep wondering, what if Moses had made it into the Promised Land?

2. Was following an article. Article describes Moses as having anger as his weak point. That is to say he easy got angry. I aways believe Moses was a very friendly man - and a meek man indeed.

So I find it hard to describe him as temperamental (with anger). Can one be meek and at the same time easily upset? NO. What he like really

What are you wondering about if Moses made it to the Promised Land?

I suppose you could read about him in God's Bible, why are you asking us?

What does meek mean to you? The Greek war horses were described as meek and they were trained to kill, they were soldiers.

 

[Classik]

hard to put into words.
ive never been in a "jail", an many would say im not one to go off the handle. but i have been in fights, and been in a "rage" a time or two. most everyone imo even moses, jesus, or a preacher has a limit. we can repress our temper but eventually it boils up

It sure boils up - aye. But to think that Moses' case was a continual outburst of anger is weird. Not saying that this is your stance on the issue.

He was not the talking type. I believe also he was a very meek and possibly servile man. He got angry - of course being human. A book I read describes him as a person who struggled with anger: that is, he had anger as a weak point.

I would love to conclude he, knowing the right thing to do, deliberately provoked GOD. Kinda over-familiarity with GOD. He belittled GOD...kinda. He was punished for that. I think that was his only recorded misconduct.

I often grieve for him. But GOD is always right.

Human beings are difficult to control - just like one of the posters laments

 

[Classik]

What are you wondering about if Moses made it to the Promised Land?

I suppose you could read about him in God's Bible, why are you asking us?

What does meek mean to you? The Greek war horses were described as meek and they were trained to kill, they were soldiers.

Meek? Practically humble and servile. Never wanting to offend anyone.


I was thinking maybe if he had made it into the PL...who knows he could have saved a lot of horrible situations that befell them...

 

[Deborah13]

Meek? Practically humble and servile. Never wanting to offend anyone.


I was thinking maybe if he had made it into the PL...who knows he could have saved a lot of horrible situations that befell them...

The word meek in the Greek as I said is used to describe their well trained war horses. They were only meek with their rider and trainer. They obeyed at the slightest command but only those.
That is how I see Moses was meek and how we are called to be meek. We are to be humble and servile to our Lord and to obey whatever He commands us to do. That was Moses, except this one time.

Hmm...Moses was a righteous man but if God does not step into a situation men/women will rebel just because of who we are.

 

[jasonc]

the mountain he died is called mt.nebo. he was allowed to see the land but not to enter. mt,nebo, is the name of the resting place of my family. appriopriate name for that.

 

[Classik]

I remember one remarkable thing about such a great person as Moses: No other Prophet in Israel like him.

 

[jasonc]

I remember one remarkable thing about such a great person as Moses: No other Prophet in Israel like him.

because he was used by GOD to give the torah. there were greater gifted prophets that healed and raised the dead.
moses didn't raise the dead.

 

[Edward]

It sure boils up - aye. But to think that Moses' case was a continual outburst of anger is weird. Not saying that this is your stance on the issue.

He was not the talking type. I believe also he was a very meek and possibly servile man. He got angry - of course being human. A book I read describes him as a person who struggled with anger: that is, he had anger as a weak point.

I would love to conclude he, knowing the right thing to do, deliberately provoked GOD. Kinda over-familiarity with GOD. He belittled GOD...kinda. He was punished for that. I think that was his only recorded misconduct.

I often grieve for him. But GOD is always right.

Human beings are difficult to control - just like one of the posters laments

Moses was the meek and servile type, but not a talker, and he told God that...who am I lord? But he was thrust into it anyway. And when you're wandering around the desert for forty years with 5 or 6 hundred thousand people yelling at you...you're bound to get stressed about it!

Moses belittled God? I don't remember that one brother. Got the scripture for that so I can read it? Thanks.

 

[Classik]

not really, Ed? The instruction was to speak to the rock. He hit it instead. He didn't take GOD's instruction seriously....regarded it as unimportant.

 

[Edward]

not really, Ed? The instruction was to speak to the rock. He hit it instead. He didn't take GOD's instruction seriously....regarded it as unimportant.

Oh, is that what you're talking about? I didn't see that as belittling God, sounds like Moses was just stressed from the situation. Apparently, God understood and had compassion on him (them) about it because the rock still flowed water for them.

The Israelite must've stressed Moses to the max. Always disobeying and murmuring and yelling at him for everything. That must've been very stressful. Moses prolly felt caught in the middle.

 

[Deborah13]

Moses was the meek and servile type, but not a talker, and he told God that...who am I lord? But he was thrust into it anyway. And when you're wandering around the desert for forty years with 5 or 6 hundred thousand people yelling at you...you're bound to get stressed about it!

Moses belittled God? I don't remember that one brother. Got the scripture for that so I can read it? Thanks.

600,000 men, not including women and children!

No God didn't like it. That's why God said he and Aaron could not go into the promised land.

 

[Edward]

600,000 men, not including women and children!

No God didn't like it. That's why God said he and Aaron could not go into the promised land.

Really?! Whoa. That sure makes a man think.
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[Classik]

Not easy for anyone. So does Obama scream at America.

America! America!! America!!! Hear ...thou ...thee the voice of the Lord...obey ye HIM...HIS commandment.

We all make him mad, right?

 

[Edward]

Not easy for anyone. So does Obama scream at America.

America! America!! America!!! Hear ...thou ...thee the voice of the Lord...obey ye HIM...HIS commandment.

We all make him mad, right?

Yeah we do, we all keep saying praise the Lord, and Pass the ammunition, lol

 

[Classik]

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