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My nephew can make fire come down from heaven

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It is written..."These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." (Rev 11:4)
I feel they are much more than Christians.
A candelstick is a reference to a church in scripture. An assembly.
They at least call themselves christian.
They call Christ their Lord.


We normally refer to people who say Christ is their Lord as Christians.Or they profess Tobe Christians.
 
No one can send fire down from heaven, but only God that sends fire down to destroy the enemy.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

The word of God destroyed the enemy.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The word of God destroyed the enemy.

Neither one of these verses say fire came down from heaven if you would read what has been written. If you compare fire proceeding out of their mouths and the sharp sword these are the words of God sent forth that only need spoken to smite and devour the enemy.

We see a different side of fire being called down from heaven when we read in 2 Kings Chapter 1 about Elijah calling literal fire down from heaven that burnt up the enemy as Elijah did not send it down, but that God sent fire down to destroy the enemy just as He will in Rev 20:9.

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
No Edward. I did not go to the war. I'm also not in the military.
It works like this. Fire proceeds out of my nephews mouth. Then this happens. Then fire come down out of heaven to destroy his enemies. The same thing is taking place in Ukraine now.
The fire is gun fire, not fire being called down from heaven. These are only your thoughts and views, but is never backed up with scripture even though you try to make what you say line up with scripture. No one is demeaning you, but trying to show you truth in what is actually written in the Bible.

It would do you well to not believe every commentary you read with the scriptures they give as you might believe what they say and this is how you try and understand things, but yet neglect the full context of what has already been written.

Why would God send His two witnesses as being His word through His Holy Spirit to kill those who are His own. What do you think the word witness means.

Get out of YouTube and get back to reading and studying your Bible. None of those videos has anything to do with the word of God.
 
A candelstick is a reference to a church in scripture. An assembly.
They at least call themselves christian.
They call Christ their Lord.


We normally refer to people who say Christ is their Lord as Christians.Or they profess Tobe Christians.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as these witnesses go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk amongst us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament. Jews were only sent to preach to the lost sheep of Israel and Paul was sent to preach to the Gentiles, Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 22:21, so will it be during the seventh trumpet sounding.​
 
I've been reading about the beast attacking the armed forces stationed in Jerusalem. It really enrages the king of the north. It takes place at the time of he end.


Time to bring out the nukes.
You are trying to bring three different events found in Rev 11:1-14, Rev 13 and Rev 20:11-10 into one event happing at the same time making it all about the two witnesses as you see them being evil. Each event in the end of days are separate from each other.

I can not understand why you can not see this as what you speak about the two witnesses is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, whether you know it or not, as you do not recognize the two witnesses as being the word of God and the anointing of the Holy Spirit sent out to preach the word of God in the end of days, but calling them evil as they torment and kill those who are God's own.

I pray you close your carnal mind in watching all those deceptive videos and allow the Holy Spirit to open your Spiritual eyes to see the truth that is being set before you in your threads.
 

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