Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots

[jasoncran]

there's nothing wrong with working through established gov't sytems to try to HOLD ON to Christian values (no abortion, no sexual deviancy etc). christian politcians and bureaucrats (if there are any left) can certainly be encouraged and reminded what they are to stand for.

i agree with both of you.

1) trying to stop Hate crimes, etc...has in fact slowed it down. Christians SHOULD be able to do all these things.

2) everything that's written must come to pass.

btw Doc:
i'm not interested in any alex jones controversy, but you may want to listen to yesterday's show (2 hours)...TONS of updates, and lots of documentation re the communist/take-over thing. we're much further along that i feared.

The Alex Jones Show - Infowars.com

go to sunday

no wonder why you two are like this. that site, please.

i thought so. let me do this without offense.

i ask that if you really belive that to be true why are you on the grid?

if you have internet
the evil zionists knows
if you have a cell phone
the evil zionist knows
if you have onstar
the evil zionist knows

and an infitinum

and being a former lover of men and women, i know what the gay rights is about. you dont have to tell me. i lived it for brief period.
i dont think the ac will come they way you say. we will be looking and an hungry for him and viola he will appear.

we have itching ears for false doctrines already
problems that the world has and wont listen the gospel to get the answer, but seeks the pagan and astrologers and witches
the apostate chruch ie warren and osteen followers and the followers of the prosperity gospel
the worshipers of self ie the athiests and secular humanist.

 

[Sparkey]

[Jeremiah 31:20 HNV] - [20] Is Efrayim my dear son? is he a darling child? for as often as I speak against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him, says the LORD.

 

[TonkaTim]

we have itching ears for false doctrines already
problems that the world has and wont listen the gospel to get the answer, but seeks the pagan and astrologers and witches
the apostate chruch ie warren and osteen followers and the followers of the prosperity gospel
the worshipers of self ie the athiests and secular humanist.

I agree with you here. The prosperity gospel churches sound like the personality of Laodicea church.

What about the 6 other church archtypes listed in Revelations? I've thought about it as well and do not have any firm conclusions.

Curious of your (others as well) thoughts, especially since this kind of synagogue of Satan thread and it is specifically mentioned regarding the Church of Philadelphia (Rev 3:9) & the Church of Smyrna (Rev 2:9).

:so back on topic:
Thoughts?

 

[jasoncran]

in the past we have had the ephisians archetype and also some are like this today. the best i can think ( i know these arent the the only ones) the calvary chapel movement and also the christian and missionary alliance.

 

[Vic C.]

Hi Forum. Rev. 17:1-5 has these all called 'THE ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH'. mom + daughters! And we see huge numbers leaving mom + her ABOMINAL DAUGHTERS. As Rev. 18:4 prophesied.

OK: Now what does one hear?? (first see 2 Cor, 4:2) Now, siurely for these ex/prostants churchs to be as prophecy now documents, satan [HAD TO PLANT HIS jesuits agents inside of them]. And then.. even now today satans message is.. do not COME OUT OF THESE (ex/) protestents churchs, but stay unitedly in/tack! And WHY IS THAT???? Christ answers that in Matt. 6:24

'No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and DESPISE THE OTHER. Ye CANNOT SERVE GOD and mammon.'

And yes, what do these ones Almost all now hold too in common & in UNITY? Rom. 13's FORCE! We are just about there! The USA Supreme Court has 3 Jews (antichrist) + 6 of romes sun worship baby believers, and with all/most all of the DAUGHTERS AS SILENT AS THE DEAD of Eze. 37. These will all want to change freedom of worship as seen in our USA Constitution. And rome?? They will quickly agree with their daughters once again!

--Elijah

Thanks for attempting to bring us back on topic.

If we can't stay on topic, I see no need to continue.

 

[jasoncran]

vic its hard as these guys are asuming something that the zionists biblically are the guys that make up the beast. i can see that jerusalem as the whore, but not the beast. cant be both.

its conjecture at this time to assume that the syangougue of satan is the current sahendrin as well that is jews do. the original and first sanhedrin put together and translated the ot to greek! of course after the time of christ these guys went way off the rocker.

 

[zone]

no wonder why you two are like this. that site, please.

i thought so. let me do this without offense.

i ask that if you really belive that to be true why are you on the grid?

if you have internet
the evil zionists knows
if you have a cell phone
the evil zionist knows
if you have onstar
the evil zionist knows

and an infitinum

and being a former lover of men and women, i know what the gay rights is about. you dont have to tell me. i lived it for brief period.
i dont think the ac will come they way you say. we will be looking and an hungry for him and viola he will appear.

we have itching ears for false doctrines already
problems that the world has and wont listen the gospel to get the answer, but seeks the pagan and astrologers and witches
the apostate chruch ie warren and osteen followers and the followers of the prosperity gospel
the worshipers of self ie the athiests and secular humanist.

umm......
i don't care about any controversy surrounding alex jones or the patriot movement or any of that. not much can be done at this point...usa is goin' down.

and i doubt doc frets about that either.

i don't live in fear, or worry about much of that...it all has to come to pass.

jones doesn't talk about zionists so not sure where you're getting that from.
i posted the link so that busy people can see on PPTV or listen on infowars for the latest in the BEAST consolidation of power.
if you don't think it's going on as we speak, that's okay.
no hard feelings bud

the beast can be whatever you want it to be i guess.

my understanding is it is an imperial/tyrannical power structure that will be global in reach and oppression.....the Mother of Harlots is steering the thing right now...that's obvious isn't it?

for starters, how else will the mark be enforced? gotta have global enforcers for that, right?

anyways, cheers mate
zone

 

[zone]

I agree with you here. The prosperity gospel churches sound like the personality of Laodicea church.

What about the 6 other church archtypes listed in Revelations? I've thought about it as well and do not have any firm conclusions.

Curious of your (others as well) thoughts, especially since this kind of synagogue of Satan thread and it is specifically mentioned regarding the Church of Philadelphia (Rev 3:9) & the Church of Smyrna (Rev 2:9).

:so back on topic:
Thoughts?

i think that's a ringer TT...you got it.
notice Smyrna and Philadelphia are the only two Jesus doesn't find fault with?
hmmm....interestink
zone.

 

[zone]

in the past we have had the ephisians archetype and also some are like this today. the best i can think ( i know these arent the the only ones) the calvary chapel movement and also the christian and missionary alliance.

you're on to something jason, for sure.
but did you know the honchos of those cults are all in on it? nothing thrives without help.
zone....

 

[Vic C.]

vic its hard as these guys are asuming something that the zionists biblically are the guys that make up the beast. i can see that jerusalem as the whore, but not the beast. cant be both.

its conjecture at this time to assume that the syangougue of satan is the current sahendrin as well that is jews do. the original and first sanhedrin put together and translated the ot to greek! of course after the time of christ these guys went way off the rocker.

What irks me is why we are constantly veering off topic in the first place. Several pages ago, I posted a link to a similar topic and we didn't have nearly the problem of staying on topic as we are having here,

http://www.christianforums.net/f20/revelation-17-harlot-27296/

All I ask is that each and every person responding check themselves and ask if their pending post really addresses the topic at hand.

 

[zone]

vic its hard as these guys are asuming something that the zionists biblically are the guys that make up the beast. i can see that jerusalem as the whore, but not the beast. cant be both.

its conjecture at this time to assume that the syangougue of satan is the current sahendrin as well that is jews do. the original and first sanhedrin put together and translated the ot to greek! of course after the time of christ these guys went way off the rocker.

but dude....the same group today proudly says they trace their watchmakallit all the way back to the ancient Pharisees.
nuthin's changed. books are the same, religion's the same.
only difference is now they've come right out with the counterfeit 7 Laws to replace God's 10 Commandments.
you should look around and see how many gullible Christians (Lord protect them) are buying into it....takin' the system for a test ride: i'm not joking.
zone.

 

[jasoncran]

whats the name then? huh? and i could do this with the 9-11 thing as well. agian IF you really think that this is all set up in operation at PRESENT, then i must ask you why have not gone in hiding?

and not using any technology.

you are trackable very easily
your cell phone like all has a locator(gps) that you cant deactivate and is tracable for leo use only
your ip adreess is traceable
use onstar its traceable.

they can and do watch you!

why would you let them know openly that you know about them!

at this moment a predator drone is heading yourway, and you may dead within minutes!
is this what you really think? and i was kidding on that last line.

show me that the knesset has any ties to these fake jews?
and have made the laws for them in isreal alone and HAVE killed arab christians since they have been a state.

its for these reasons i aint a buying.

you have failed to show me that where and who these military guys have the guillotines(and btw i have openly talked about this to fellow guardsmen long ago(14 yrs) and surely someone would squeal)

think the wiki leaks
opsec and comsec and infosec are very hard to enforce these days but its done.

i want videos from legit sources not some infowars site and or youtube, as both arent indepently verifiable

honeslty this sounds like the alien conspiracies to me

the irony here I CAN see scriptural support for the harlot being JERSUSALEM. but that is found in the bible, but not when it will happen and whom will be involved in it.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

vic its hard as these guys are asuming something that the zionists biblically are the guys that make up the beast. i can see that jerusalem as the whore, but not the beast. cant be both.

its conjecture at this time to assume that the syangougue of satan is the current sahendrin as well that is jews do. the original and first sanhedrin put together and translated the ot to greek! of course after the time of christ these guys went way off the rocker.

The whore is sitting on the beast.
If you can see Jerusalem as being the whore then why couldnt you see the hills under Jerusalem as being the seven heads of the beast?

 

[Strangelove]

vic its hard as these guys are asuming something that the zionists biblically are the guys that make up the beast. i can see that jerusalem as the whore, but not the beast. cant be both.

VICTORY! ALL GLORY TO GOD!

Dear Lord.
Thank you for opening our Brothers Eyes. Especially such a strong one as Brother Jason.
Lord, thank you for allowing your Holy Spirit to work through us to alert brethren to truth.
Lord, allow those who have eyes to see spread the truth themselves...to shine light on darkness as is your will oh Lord Jesus Christ..Amen.

i can see that jerusalem as the whore

but not the beast. cant be both.

Your right it cant be both. No way. The whore is riding the beast. She controls the beast. For now. But we know that control doesnt last forever. Because we know from Rev. that the beast will eventually attack the Whore herself. It's all gonna go pear shaped for the Synagogue of Satan. They just dont believe it themselves so they continue.

In my mind the beast is the one world government that the Whore has set up. ALL religions...creeds and colours make up the beast. Not just zionists. If you want we can simply call it global domination by way of ENFORCEMENT. Another way to put it would be good ole fasioned communism / fascism.

All nations are being centralized. You cant deny it cos look at the U.N. Thats the nerve centre of the overt beast system muscle. All religions are being centralized and melted together. You cant deny it cos look at the Popes ecumenical movement. This is the beast. The are coralling everyone up into massive groups. This makes it much easier to give them the mark.

Is acceptance of the Noahide Laws the mark? Renouncing Christs name in order to live? Could be. RFID chip? Maybe. Doesnt really matter to me. As long as we stay on our narrow path with Christ and stay aware of anything anti-christ then were all good.

Love Doc.

 

[Strangelove]

IF you really think that this is all set up in operation at PRESENT, then i must ask you why have not gone in hiding?

Because we do not fear men. We only fear God. Maybe God is protecting us so that we may do His will?

I mean....Sister Zone should be dead right now. Her kidney's are completly shot to pieces and probably riddled with cancer (waiting on the test results). The only things she can move are her arms basically. She's been disabled for 7 years. The only thing inside her body that is functioning properly is the Lords Holy Spirit. Amen.

 

[zone]

VICTORY! ALL GLORY TO GOD!



Your right it cant be both. No way. The whore is riding the beast. She controls the beast. For now. But we know that control doesnt last forever. Because we know from Rev. that the beast will eventually attack the Whore herself. It's all gonna go pear shaped for the Synagogue of Satan. They just dont believe it themselves so they continue.

In my mind the beast is the one world government that the Whore has set up. ALL religions...creeds and colours make up the beast. Not just zionists. If you want we can simply call it global domination by way of ENFORCEMENT. Another way to put it would be good ole fasioned communism / fascism.

All nations are being centralized. You cant deny it cos look at the U.N. Thats the nerve centre of the overt beast system muscle. All religions are being centralized and melted together. You cant deny it cos look at the Popes ecumenical movement. This is the beast. The are coralling everyone up into massive groups. This makes it much easier to give them the mark.

Is acceptance of the Noahide Laws the mark? Renouncing Christs name in order to live? Could be. RFID chip? Maybe. Doesnt really matter to me. As long as we stay on our narrow path with Christ and stay aware of anything anti-christ then were all good.

Love Doc.

good morning brothers and sisters.
Doc! you're amazing!

now that we're being led by The Spirit into all Truth, regardless of who is involved, i bring to you EXHIBIT # 1:

KNOW YOUR ROTHSCHILDS

this is in perfect alignment with my theory that the son of perdition (Judas bing a type) will be an 8th Herodian Edomite, let's look at the most powerful family on earth (that we are able to identify): remember that Jesus told us the SoS would be people who pretended to be Jacob (jews) but aren't really. what we are able to verify from innumerable sources is that almost all CULTS, including pseudo-christian cults are set up by the Powers That Be - the World Council of Churches, for example is a Rockefeller creation.

(this document is loaded with information and extensive documentation. i suggest printing it out in case of net issues)....let's dicuss it.

The Rothschild Bloodline

 

[zone]

Because we do not fear men. We only fear God. Maybe God is protecting us so that we may do His will?

I mean....Sister Zone should be dead right now. Her kidney's are completly shot to pieces and probably riddled with cancer (waiting on the test results). The only things she can move are her arms basically. She's been disabled for 7 years. The only thing inside her body that is functioning properly is the Lords Holy Spirit. Amen.

heya Doc buddy
thanks for remembering me.
kidneys are real bad today.
one procedure tomorrow, another next month.
but i've never felt better! we've got work to do!
love zone.

 

[zone]

good morning brothers and sisters.
what we are able to verify from innumerable sources is that almost all CULTS, including pseudo-christian cults are set up by the Powers That Be - the World Council of Churches, for example is a Rockefeller creation.

here's a very extensive document which touches on British-Israelism (another cult which believes Anglos are heirs to the throne in Jerusalem). facts....just the facts, please:

British Subversion of America:The Militias and Pentacostilism--Who is Wagging Your Neighbor's Tongue?

(remember that the City of London has been running the show for a long time: but at who's hands?). this has been gradually shifting to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

i mean no disrespect to Pentecostalists, we are just gleaning information. this document was prepared by non-christians, researching from the outside. larouche is notoriously anti-anglo, but we are looking for facts: in keeping with my position, i don't care who is actually at the head of this thing or what their race is, i only want to keep an eye on the AGENDA.

 

[Strangelove]

good morning brothers and sisters.

(this document is loaded with information and extensive documentation. i suggest printing it out in case of net issues)....let's dicuss it.

The Rothschild Bloodline

Zone. what are you doing up at this time?

Oooh that webpage looks good I'll give it a good read.

Rothschild? Prime suspect number #1 for son of perdition. Antichrist? Will he announce himself and stand in the temple shewing himself to be god? Is it possible people will accept him as the messiah? I guess the Jews would quite easily cos they are expecting a normal man basically. Is that correct?

How about Christians though? Oh....hang on.....thats what all this hebrew roots stuff is all about.....The rabbis leading the flock..........so they can say Lo here...Lo there........

Love you zone...///////

:::::::::::: Doc.

 

[zone]

KNOW YOUR CULT ORGANIZATIONS >> all must come under a single controlling power.

we know that the vast majority of people trapped in cults are sincere and The Lord knows them that are His. we are just looking for the facts, attempting to recognize patterns of manipulation and consolidation.

we can begin to see the same names surface in these organizations.

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