Naturally dull

[Classik]

Naturally Dull.

Why God made some naturally dull. Did God create some people naturally dull? Do we have varying level of intelligence? I would say NO 'cause some have chosen to be dull. Hardwork pays. We all are brilliant. Activate your brilliance by simply working hard.

1 + 1 = 2 may seem to some something that can never be solved, something only meant for a particular set of people. We all can learn provided we are ready to bend down and read!

Do we even wonder the percentage of our brain we've (as a result of our unseriousness) rendered inactive and useless. If the human brain is a huge block of sand some only could use a pinch of it.

 

[Classik]

Naturally Dull.

Why God made some naturally dull. Did God create some people naturally dull? Do we have varying level of intelligence? I would say NO 'cause some have chosen to be dull. Hardwork pays. We all are brilliant. Activate your brilliance by simply working hard.

1 + 1 = 2 may seem to some something that can never be solved, something only meant for a particular set of people. We all can learn provided we are ready to bend down and read!

Do we even wonder the percentage of our brain we've (as a result of our unseriousness) rendered inactive and useless. If the human brain is a huge block of sand some only could use a pinch of it.

(This also applies to why some have failed or are failures). Is it not by their making?

 

[WIP]

Ephesians 4:11
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

I suppose he also made some brilliant at cognitive thinking, some brilliant at comprehension, some brilliant mathematically, some brilliant logically, some brilliant socially,....

 

[Christ_empowered]

We live in a Fallen World. Some are born with greater intellectual potential than others. Some are born physically and/or mentally handicapped. Some are crippled by their environments. I think our responsibility as Christians is to remember that all human life has inherent worth and dignity, and that all people are deserving of respect, even unrepentant sinners and the completely wretched, ugly, stupid, sinful, and unlovable. "As you do unto the least of these, so you do unto me."

On a personal note...I used to be homely. And dull eyed. And straight up stupid, in addition to being incapacitated by electroshock- and drug-induced brain damage and some kind of mystery "mental illness," whatever that term means. Anyway, God healed me. Nicer facial features, little bit taller, higher IQ, less crazy, bright eyes. So, I thought about this (I've thought about my transformation a lot lately) and what it all means. I thought initially that it was all about me. Me paying for my sins, me being humbled, me being "taught a lesson," me being shown incredible grace.

Then it dawned on me: yes, there were elements of all those things. But it wasn't just me involved. Lots of people tormented me and ridiculed me when I was ugly, wretched, stupid, unrepentant, vegetative, and unlovable. Was God punishing me, or testing them? Or both?

Sorry to get all personal on you...just stuff that's been running through my mind lately. Anyway, I guess I'm saying that I think one reason some people are born handicapped or crazy or dull or ugly is so God can see how we--humans in general, but Christians in particular--handle "the least of these." You dig?

 

[Classik]

Glad to hear from you once more, CE.

 

[Classik]

I didn't remember to add to the OP: 'I know there are some that were born having some problems. This is quite a different issue. '

. I understand certain things better today 'cause I put in more effort.

 

[Milk-Drops]

There is another piece to the puzzle. What does it mean to be learning disabled or mentally ill? This comes from not being able to conform to a specific set of standards set by our society when it comes to interaction and education. However, many sociologists and Psychologists have noted that not all people learn the same way. Meaning that some people are just as brilliant as others, but don't flourish necessarily in every academic environment.

Some people are more creative, some people do better with numbers, some people do better with inward thinking. There are introverts and extroverts ( check out Edward's thread on the Myer Briggs test for explanations and possibly see where you might fit in the test). people who learn better hands on, and people who respond better with theory and reading.

Personal responsibility also has to do with it, but then that comes into the sate of the person. Does the person see the work as worth it? Are they in a state of depression? Does the person have the resources to do so? What life events might be getting in the way.

There is a lot to think about and consider when talking about this.

 

[WIP]

There is another piece to the puzzle. What does it mean to be learning disabled or mentally ill? This comes from not being able to conform to a specific set of standards set by our society when it comes to interaction and education. However, many sociologists and Psychologists have noted that not all people learn the same way. Meaning that some people are just as brilliant as others, but don't flourish necessarily in every academic environment.

Some people are more creative, some people do better with numbers, some people do better with inward thinking. There are introverts and extroverts ( check out Edward's thread on the Myer Briggs test for explanations and possibly see where you might fit in the test). people who learn better hands on, and people who respond better with theory and reading.

Personal responsibility also has to do with it, but then that comes into the sate of the person. Does the person see the work as worth it? Are they in a state of depression? Does the person have the resources to do so? What life events might be getting in the way.

There is a lot to think about and consider when talking about this.

Absolutely! When I was growing up our family had close ties to another family in town. One of the boys in that family is the same age as me. One of his favorite passions is baseball. He loves the game. If you have a question about who plays with which team, he is the one that can answer it for you. Another of his strong points is his memory about people he meets. He can meet you one time and you might run into him years later and he will remember you. He is also extremely compassionate. Any time I see him he greets me with a smile, hello, and a hug.

Oh, one other point about this friend is that he has Down Syndrome. From an intellectual perspective he is not capable of taking complete care of himself so, at 54 years of age, he still lives at home with his parents.

Intelligence is a matter of perspective.

 

[Classik]

There is another piece to the puzzle. What does it mean to be learning disabled or mentally ill? This comes from not being able to conform to a specific set of standards set by our society when it comes to interaction and education. However, many sociologists and Psychologists have noted that not all people learn the same way. Meaning that some people are just as brilliant as others, but don't flourish necessarily in every academic environment.

Some people are more creative, some people do better with numbers, some people do better with inward thinking. There are introverts and extroverts ( check out Edward's thread on the Myer Briggs test for explanations and possibly see where you might fit in the test). people who learn better hands on, and people who respond better with theory and reading.

Personal responsibility also has to do with it, but then that comes into the sate of the person. Does the person see the work as worth it? Are they in a state of depression? Does the person have the resources to do so? What life events might be getting in the way.

There is a lot to think about and consider when talking about this.

Thanks for your reply, ball. You know I like this part of your username 'ball'.

Alright. How about people subjected to the same conducive environment?

 

[Milk-Drops]

Thanks for your reply, ball. You know I like this part of your username 'ball'.

Alright. How about people subjected to the same conducive environment?

Its hard to say without examples and there is always exceptions to the rule. For instance if someone comes from a rich family, its not a guarantee that the person will be successful. However if the person has drive and passion, then there is greater chance the person will succeed. However, someone with great challenges, such as deep depression, poverty, and location, can crall out, but the amount of work and debt is a big hurtle. Even most passionate can eventually be swallowed up by this hurtle.

There are rags to riches stories, but the reason why they are notable is because they are the exception to the rule.

 

[ravindran_eee]

I believe people are both with different intelligent level. God does provide different talents and gifts for different people. So it's also not fair to measure different personalities on the same scale of judgment. Just my 2 cents!

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[Classik]

I believe people are both with different intelligent level. God does provide different talents and gifts for different people. So it's also not fair to measure different personalities on the same scale of judgment. Just my 2 cents!

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Thanks for your reply:D and welcome to CF.net.

How do you mean talent? I think that is a totally different scenario...tho it seems to apply.

Someone mentioned something similar: Eph 4:11. I think this is what the Holy Spirit of the Living God does in the lives of believers.

 

[ravindran_eee]

I see talent and spiritual gifts to be 2 different things.. Spiritual gifts are manifestation of the Holy Spirit working in a person's life.. Talent is something that even a non-believer would have. It is the natural ability that God has given to humans.. Clearly, both are gifts from God. I think there is one bible verse also.. Every gift is from heaven.. But even a non-believer can have talent.. Spiritual gifts are provided to a person through receiving of Holy Spirit

I believe people are both with different intelligent level. God does provide different talents and gifts for different people. So it's also not fair to measure different personalities on the same scale of judgment. Just my 2 cents!

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4

Thanks for your reply:D and welcome to CF.net.

How do you mean talent? I think that is a totally different scenario...tho it seems to apply.

Someone mentioned something similar: Eph 4:11. I think this is what the Holy Spirit of the Living God does in the lives of believers.

 

[Classik]

I see talent and spiritual gifts to be 2 different things.. Spiritual gifts are manifestation of the Holy Spirit working in a person's life.. Talent is something that even a non-believer would have. It is the natural ability that God has given to humans.. Clearly, both are gifts from God. I think there is one bible verse also.. Every gift is from heaven.. But even a non-believer can have talent.. Spiritual gifts are provided to a person through receiving of Holy Spirit

I believe people are both with different intelligent level. God does provide different talents and gifts for different people. So it's also not fair to measure different personalities on the same scale of judgment. Just my 2 cents!

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4

Thanks for your reply:D and welcome to CF.net.

How do you mean talent? I think that is a totally different scenario...tho it seems to apply.

Someone mentioned something similar: Eph 4:11. I think this is what the Holy Spirit of the Living God does in the lives of believers.

Thank you for the clarification