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FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

REPLY: Roman Catholicism is a very heavenly form of Christianity; but it isn't easy.

Once someone is fully committed by completing First Holy Communion and
Confirmation and undergone Christian baptism --the Church will be holding them
accountable to comply with everything Rome teaches and stands for, e.g. the
Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma, the rituals, the Traditions, the
Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites, the holy days of obligation, and the
entire Catechism; plus everything that Jesus and the apostles taught in the New
Testament, i.e. all four gospels and all twenty-one epistles, plus Acts and
Revelation.

That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

In addition, Catholics are just inches from the worst, because if it should happen
that they leave this life with just one un-absolved mortal sin on the books, they go
directly to Hell and eternal suffering; no stop-over in a purgatory. No, their trip is a
direct flight. Even if they've been a faithful Catholic for 49 years, they will miss the
boat just as if they had been a Hindu, or a Muslim, or an atheist. All their years as a
faithful Catholic will be stricken from the record and count for naught.
(CCC 1035)

Now; the Church recognizes your moral right to choose either to join it or ignore it.

"Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as personally to make
moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must
he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious
matters."
(CCC 1782)

However, be aware that when someone joins the Church, they're expected to
relinquish the freedom of conscience they once enjoyed.

"The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its
written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching
office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of
Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the
bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome."
(CCC 85)

Bottom line: Catholicism isn't a democratic structure-- it's more like Big Brother in
George Orwell's novel "Nineteen Eighty-Four". I'm not saying that's necessarily a
bad thing; only saying that it's a level of governance that some folks find a mite too
invasive.


NOTE: I grew up in Catholicism, and for many years was under the impression that
my affiliation with The Church would give me an advantage, but I was wrong.

The Almighty isn't a political appointee like members of the US Supreme Court, viz:
He isn't biased towards the left or to the right, i.e. the justice of God is fair across
the board regardless of age, race, gender, and/or religious preference; so that
joining The Church grants no one a certain amount of special consideration not
afforded outsiders.
(Rom 2:6-11 & 1Pet 1:17)

And the irony of it all; the supreme irony, is that Catholicism's hierarchy-- its
priests, nuns, Popes, and Cardinals, etc. --are in just as much danger of failing to
make the cut as John Que and Jane Doe rank and file pew warmers; in point of
fact: according to Luke 12:47-48, and Jas 3:1, they may be in even greater danger
because their responsibility is greater.
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I'm considering joining the Catholic Church
Basically what is your understanding of what Christianity is?
Do you believe in John 3:16 or do you believe that it is the rites of the Roman Catholic church that saves.

It is what you believe that will direct were you will go.
 
Hi Beetow

I'm just curious whether you are actually considering aligning yourself with the Catholic organization or it's a question that you have been asked for which you are seeking how to answer someone's query. Your format posts the question as an FAQ. That stands for 'frequently asked questions'.

However, I must say that in reading the complete post you do seem to be offering an answer to someone's question.
 
I'm just curious whether you are actually considering aligning yourself with the Catholic
organization or it's a question that you have been asked for which you are seeking how to answer
someone's query. Your format posts the question as an FAQ. That stands for 'frequently asked
questions'. However, I must say that in reading the complete post you do seem to be offering an
answer to someone's question.

My mother was Catholic. My aunt and uncle were Catholics, their son is a Catholic,
my eldest brother was a Catholic priest 50+ years and was a semi retired Friar
when he passed away.

My father-in-law was a Catholic, as was my mother-in-law. Everybody alive on my
wife's side are Catholics; her aunts and uncles, and her cousins. My sister-in-law
was a "religious" for a number of years before falling out with the hierarchy that
controlled her order.

I was baptized an infant into the Church back in 1944 and anon enrolled in
catechism classes whereby I went on to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.


FYI: The OP of this thread is not a request for information. It is an apologetic
whose purpose is to defend my personal opinion that Catholicism would not be
a good choice for some people. Suum Cuique.
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The OP of this thread is not a request for information. It is an apologetic
whose purpose is to defend my personal opinion that Catholicism would not be
a good choice for some people. Suum Cuique.
Hi Beetow

Thank you for clearing that up. That's rather what I thought as I read the whole post, but I was a bit confused in how it was presented. Have you since been baptized in the knowledge and proclamation from your own lips that Jesus is Lord? As I understand it, that's one of the biggest reasons that baby and very young baptism is frowned upon by other believers. The practice in the Scriptures seems to be that the person being baptized has to actually understand and make the confession that Jesus is Lord in their life.
 
I have no more to say about my own personal experiences with Catholicism.
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I'm not actually asking you about your personal experience with Catholicism. I'm asking about your personal experience since leaving Catholicism. Yes, I am making the assumption that since you are now speaking against the practices of Catholicism that you have left it. If you are uncomfortable answering the question, that's fine. But if you have not been water baptized since becoming an adult and making the personal decision to follow after Jesus in baptism, that you consider it.
 
Hi Beetow

Thank you for clearing that up. That's rather what I thought as I read the whole post, but I was a bit confused in how it was presented. Have you since been baptized in the knowledge and proclamation from your own lips that Jesus is Lord? As I understand it, that's one of the biggest reasons that baby and very young baptism is frowned upon by other believers. The practice in the Scriptures seems to be that the person being baptized has to actually understand and make the confession that Jesus is Lord in their life.
This is what confirmation is about.
 
Hi WIP

Oh, I really don't have much understanding of a lot of what the Catholic organization teaches. How do they confirm a 2 year old and under?
They don't and we don't in the Lutheran church. We baptize with water and the Word as infants and then at about 16 years old the child publicly confirms their faith through the rite of confirmation.
 
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Put all the theologies, doctrines, traditions aside, just a look on the Catholic church's opinion on homosexuality, environmentalism (which is essentially worship of nature), drug abuse (dependence on any kind of medication, not just cocaine or opioid) and Israel. From what I know, pope Francis is pro homosexuality, pro environmentalism, probably neutral on drugs and anti Israel, that tells a lot. A true biblical church must be anti homosexuality, anti environmentalism, anti drug abuse and PRO Israel, take those as basic litmus tests.
 
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