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I have Davies. That is part of what prompted me to reply.
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One final chance to say yes?
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Davies
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Osgiliath,
Then we have a fundamental disagreement with what I think the Scriptures plainly say. May God's mercy, which is severely needed by us, be granted.
You have a big problem with CF.net because, "We believe in a personal devil, called Satan, who, along with all his angels, called demons or evil spirits, are destined to spend eternity in hell," Statement of Faith. The idea of there being no eternal hell is more in line with Mormonism, not Christianity.
- Davies
Then we have a fundamental disagreement with what I think the Scriptures plainly say. May God's mercy, which is severely needed by us, be granted.
You have a big problem with CF.net because, "We believe in a personal devil, called Satan, who, along with all his angels, called demons or evil spirits, are destined to spend eternity in hell," Statement of Faith. The idea of there being no eternal hell is more in line with Mormonism, not Christianity.
- Davies
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Your understanding of the "letter of the word" is in error, and is in total contradiction with the "heart" of the Holy Spirit, and the true love and mercy of God. It is fused with much leaven:
Exodus 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses."
Put away leaven (man's indoctrination) out of your house.
Peace.
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Osgiliath
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PS - Who said I do not believe in a personal devil? I certainly do, and have never said otherwise, though we may differ on the details surrounding him.
Why would you say something like this - compare my beliefs to Mormonism? I assure you, they are not! Nor are they JW! This is what orthodoxy does. Anyone who isn't "in line" with their particular way of thinking is branded (JWs, Mormons, etc.).
And back to the topic:
Revelation 13:15 "........that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
This is precisely what orthodox Christendom does, is it not? If you do not worship "our image" of God, you 'will be killed' - or tormented for eternity!
Revelation 13:11 "And I saw another beast ascending up from the earth, and it had two horns, like a lamb; and it spake as a dragon."
The beast is characterized as a beast that has two horns like a LAMB ['looks like' the Lamb of God - i.e. - looks Christian], BUT it spake as a DRAGON [but it 'spake' as that old serpent, the DRAGON, called the devil, and Satan (Revelation 13:11, 12:9). This "beast" professes to be the true representative of the Lamb of God in the world. It pretends to be harmless, meek, mild, inoffensive, nonagressive like a lamb and has many professions of cleanliness, purity, holiness, sanctity, and godliness, but notwithstanding all of these, it spake AS A DRAGON.
This is a religious BEAST, a belief system, that derives its power from the dragon, rooted in the minds of men; organized into a massive kingdom of darkness, error, and superstition which MASQUERADES AS CHRIST'S KINGDOM. But it SPAKE AS A DRAGON! Satan! (I certainly believe in a personal devil. I do not know where you got the idea I didn't)
Who else but a FIRE AND BRIMSTONE breathing DRAGON would breath "hot air" out of his mouth, pronouncing a "sentence" of everlasting sadistic torture IN Hell with FIRE AND BRIMSTONE? This twisted, evil doctrine could only come from the "great dragon", the arch deceiver - Satan, the devil; spoken through his ministers:
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 "They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder that his ministers also disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness."
And again, Revelation 13 tells us exactly what these disguised "ministers of righteousness" do:
Revelation 13:15 "........that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
If you do not worship "our image" of God, you "will be killed" - or "tormented for eternity!"
These spurious "ministers of righteousness" do not bring THE GOOD NEWS! They bring bad news - a false gospel that equates to none other than BLACKMAIL! Do this, OR ELSE!
Why would you say something like this - compare my beliefs to Mormonism? I assure you, they are not! Nor are they JW! This is what orthodoxy does. Anyone who isn't "in line" with their particular way of thinking is branded (JWs, Mormons, etc.).
And back to the topic:
Revelation 13:15 "........that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
This is precisely what orthodox Christendom does, is it not? If you do not worship "our image" of God, you 'will be killed' - or tormented for eternity!
Revelation 13:11 "And I saw another beast ascending up from the earth, and it had two horns, like a lamb; and it spake as a dragon."
The beast is characterized as a beast that has two horns like a LAMB ['looks like' the Lamb of God - i.e. - looks Christian], BUT it spake as a DRAGON [but it 'spake' as that old serpent, the DRAGON, called the devil, and Satan (Revelation 13:11, 12:9). This "beast" professes to be the true representative of the Lamb of God in the world. It pretends to be harmless, meek, mild, inoffensive, nonagressive like a lamb and has many professions of cleanliness, purity, holiness, sanctity, and godliness, but notwithstanding all of these, it spake AS A DRAGON.
This is a religious BEAST, a belief system, that derives its power from the dragon, rooted in the minds of men; organized into a massive kingdom of darkness, error, and superstition which MASQUERADES AS CHRIST'S KINGDOM. But it SPAKE AS A DRAGON! Satan! (I certainly believe in a personal devil. I do not know where you got the idea I didn't)
Who else but a FIRE AND BRIMSTONE breathing DRAGON would breath "hot air" out of his mouth, pronouncing a "sentence" of everlasting sadistic torture IN Hell with FIRE AND BRIMSTONE? This twisted, evil doctrine could only come from the "great dragon", the arch deceiver - Satan, the devil; spoken through his ministers:
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 "They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder that his ministers also disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness."
And again, Revelation 13 tells us exactly what these disguised "ministers of righteousness" do:
Revelation 13:15 "........that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
If you do not worship "our image" of God, you "will be killed" - or "tormented for eternity!"
These spurious "ministers of righteousness" do not bring THE GOOD NEWS! They bring bad news - a false gospel that equates to none other than BLACKMAIL! Do this, OR ELSE!
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