I apologize for seeming harsh upon Drew. Though I think he's got his head in-the-sand a bit on the matter, I think he may mean well. I probably shouldn't have included anyone's quotes in my last post.
Concerning the "kingdom age" idea, it's really deep and does not really agree with much of men's doctrine of what's termed "kingdom age". One thing it definitely does not involve, is the erroneous idea that Christ's return happenned in 70 A.D.
Gen 49:10-11
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.
11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
(KJV)
Genesis 49 is prophecy given through Jacob to the 12 tribes of Israel, for the last days.
The "sceptre" involves part of God's Birthright promise to chosen Israel. That sceptre is about the earthly throne of David of the tribe of Judah. God promised to David his throne on earth would exist through all generations, even forever, never ceasing (2 Sam.7). Thusly, the sceptre shall not depart from Judah until Shiloh (Christ) comes, meaning the sceptre will be handed over to Christ Jesus de facto, on earth. And the gathering of the people matter there is about all those who believe on Christ Jesus unto Salvation. All believers are to be gathered where Christ will reign upon the throne of David from, in Jerusalem on earth.
That leaves no room for some Preterist to say that has already happenned today.
At present Christ's Kingdom on earth today is spiritual, among His Body of believers. But it is also literally on earth today too, which is what that Gen.49 verse is about concerning that "sceptre" given to Judah.
When God split old Israel up into two separate kingdoms after Solomon's reign (1 Kings 11 forward), He later scattered the majority of Israelites through the nations. But He promised there would always exist a remnant of Israel on earth that knew His Truth, and He would keep them wherever they went. His promise through Jacob that one of his sons would become "a multitude of nations" also involves Christ's Kingdom established here on earth along with that sceptre. THAT is the part of Christ's royal inheritance involving Israel. It's here on earth but He is not here yet to claim that sceptre rule and throne of David. Judah still has it today like Gen.49:10 shows. (And where's that at, some might say? Only devout Bible study and prayer to our Heavenly Father through His Son can reveal it. Men's doctrines certainly won't nor can reveal it).
How will we know when Christ inherits that "sceptre"? Simple. The gathering of the people (saints) will be where He is, and He will sit upon David's throne, and the 12 tribes will be re-established back to their old inheritances promised to their fathers, on this earth. Ezekiel 48 gives the layout of the 12 tribe's borders in that re-establishing. All believers on The Savior Jesus Christ, of all nations, will be gathered there with them. This is a major declaration in many places of the Old Testament prophets. It is also what Revelation 21 & 22 shows, in relation to Christ's Milennium reign of Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 40 forward.
Before that can happen, a false messiah must come first. A false world system of ten horns, ten crowns, and seven heads must be setup covering all nations on earth. And worship of the dragon through his image must occur, with many falling away from Christ into that deception of false worship. A time of all wars on earth having stopped must come, establishing the "Peace and safety" condition on earth for false messiah to operate in (1 Thess.5). That is the "world peace" today's globalists are working towards on earth today.
It appears not many are taught, nor understand about Satan's original rebellion against The Father, when it was and what it was like, and how it was manifested. God told the answers to all that in His Word, for those willing to listen to Him only.
There is a pattern within the history of the Old Testament kings and beast kingdoms. The pattern is about a world beast kingdom set up over all the earth, in final. The previous beast kingdoms were partial blueprints for the final one being setup on earth today. But no mystery that Satan's original rebellion involved the very first beast kingdom setup on this earth. It is mentioned in Rev.12:3-4 in relation to when he drew one third of the angels into rebellion with him. That world beast system of old had only "seven crowns", the main difference between the one of Rev.13:1 which is forming up today.
Our Lord has tried to warn us about this final event that's to bring the end of this world by all the examples He gave in His Word about the previous beast kingdoms on earth. Those in Christ have no need to fear it, but being strong in Faith know we will overcome it. It's a great marker for how close we are to end our trials on this earth by Christ's enemies. They know they have only a very short time to work this last and greatest final deception on earth prior to Christ's return. Our Lord doesn't want us to fear it, but be prepared to make a stand for Him in going through it, giving His witness by The Holy Spirit. So this is NOT the time to want to escape the coming tribulaton trials. It's a time to consider where our priorities lay.
Concerning the "kingdom age" idea, it's really deep and does not really agree with much of men's doctrine of what's termed "kingdom age". One thing it definitely does not involve, is the erroneous idea that Christ's return happenned in 70 A.D.
Gen 49:10-11
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.
11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
(KJV)
Genesis 49 is prophecy given through Jacob to the 12 tribes of Israel, for the last days.
The "sceptre" involves part of God's Birthright promise to chosen Israel. That sceptre is about the earthly throne of David of the tribe of Judah. God promised to David his throne on earth would exist through all generations, even forever, never ceasing (2 Sam.7). Thusly, the sceptre shall not depart from Judah until Shiloh (Christ) comes, meaning the sceptre will be handed over to Christ Jesus de facto, on earth. And the gathering of the people matter there is about all those who believe on Christ Jesus unto Salvation. All believers are to be gathered where Christ will reign upon the throne of David from, in Jerusalem on earth.
That leaves no room for some Preterist to say that has already happenned today.
At present Christ's Kingdom on earth today is spiritual, among His Body of believers. But it is also literally on earth today too, which is what that Gen.49 verse is about concerning that "sceptre" given to Judah.
When God split old Israel up into two separate kingdoms after Solomon's reign (1 Kings 11 forward), He later scattered the majority of Israelites through the nations. But He promised there would always exist a remnant of Israel on earth that knew His Truth, and He would keep them wherever they went. His promise through Jacob that one of his sons would become "a multitude of nations" also involves Christ's Kingdom established here on earth along with that sceptre. THAT is the part of Christ's royal inheritance involving Israel. It's here on earth but He is not here yet to claim that sceptre rule and throne of David. Judah still has it today like Gen.49:10 shows. (And where's that at, some might say? Only devout Bible study and prayer to our Heavenly Father through His Son can reveal it. Men's doctrines certainly won't nor can reveal it).
How will we know when Christ inherits that "sceptre"? Simple. The gathering of the people (saints) will be where He is, and He will sit upon David's throne, and the 12 tribes will be re-established back to their old inheritances promised to their fathers, on this earth. Ezekiel 48 gives the layout of the 12 tribe's borders in that re-establishing. All believers on The Savior Jesus Christ, of all nations, will be gathered there with them. This is a major declaration in many places of the Old Testament prophets. It is also what Revelation 21 & 22 shows, in relation to Christ's Milennium reign of Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 40 forward.
Before that can happen, a false messiah must come first. A false world system of ten horns, ten crowns, and seven heads must be setup covering all nations on earth. And worship of the dragon through his image must occur, with many falling away from Christ into that deception of false worship. A time of all wars on earth having stopped must come, establishing the "Peace and safety" condition on earth for false messiah to operate in (1 Thess.5). That is the "world peace" today's globalists are working towards on earth today.
It appears not many are taught, nor understand about Satan's original rebellion against The Father, when it was and what it was like, and how it was manifested. God told the answers to all that in His Word, for those willing to listen to Him only.
There is a pattern within the history of the Old Testament kings and beast kingdoms. The pattern is about a world beast kingdom set up over all the earth, in final. The previous beast kingdoms were partial blueprints for the final one being setup on earth today. But no mystery that Satan's original rebellion involved the very first beast kingdom setup on this earth. It is mentioned in Rev.12:3-4 in relation to when he drew one third of the angels into rebellion with him. That world beast system of old had only "seven crowns", the main difference between the one of Rev.13:1 which is forming up today.
Our Lord has tried to warn us about this final event that's to bring the end of this world by all the examples He gave in His Word about the previous beast kingdoms on earth. Those in Christ have no need to fear it, but being strong in Faith know we will overcome it. It's a great marker for how close we are to end our trials on this earth by Christ's enemies. They know they have only a very short time to work this last and greatest final deception on earth prior to Christ's return. Our Lord doesn't want us to fear it, but be prepared to make a stand for Him in going through it, giving His witness by The Holy Spirit. So this is NOT the time to want to escape the coming tribulaton trials. It's a time to consider where our priorities lay.
