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Jgredline replied to my previous post, and concluded with this statement to me: "Jesus indeed is the Son of God, the second person of the triune God....
This is what makes perfect biblical sense....."
To say, "Jesus is the Son of God", is to quote Scripture verbatim, and therefore "makes perfect biblical sense". To add on top of that the words, ". . . the second person of the triune God", is to simply say what the Bible does not say, and then claim that it does. This kind of shell game with words is central to, and necessary for, Trinitarianism to be perpetuated.
Language is the medium by which faith comes (cf. Romans 10:17 & Galatians 3:2). It is in this sense that, "the word was (and is) God" (cf. John 1:1). What can be known of God comes by the agency of his "word" (Greek: logos), which became the person of Jesus. For trinitarians, God the Father is puppetmaster to "God the Son" (an invented, extra-biblical expression needed to perpetuate trinitarianism). This cosmic ventriloquism necessitates for Jesus to be something other than a human being. After all, what human being ever "pre-existed" (another invented, extra-biblical expression needed to perpetuate trinitarianism) their own birth?
This kind of "man" is really no man at all, but rather a hybrid spirit being the likes of which the pagan world could readily envision, just as the ancients in Lystra did when they said of Paul and Barnabas, "The gods have become like men and have come down to us" (Acts 14:11). Rather than use this opportunity as a spring-board for presenting Jesus as the incarnated God, Paul rejects this idea with the admonition, "Men, why are you doing these things?" (cf. Acts 14:15).
With the Jesus is God scenario, God the Father actually takes a back seat to "God the Son" . . . whose actually done more than God the Father. After all, no trinitarian would believe that God the Father is the one who became human. Thus, in this trinitarian structure, it is safe to say that God the Father really doesn't understand humanity . . . only "God the Son" does.
In the end, Christians end up missing the fact that we're destined to serve his (i.e. Jesus') God, and Father (cf. Revelation 1:6).
Sincerely,
David
This is what makes perfect biblical sense....."
To say, "Jesus is the Son of God", is to quote Scripture verbatim, and therefore "makes perfect biblical sense". To add on top of that the words, ". . . the second person of the triune God", is to simply say what the Bible does not say, and then claim that it does. This kind of shell game with words is central to, and necessary for, Trinitarianism to be perpetuated.
Language is the medium by which faith comes (cf. Romans 10:17 & Galatians 3:2). It is in this sense that, "the word was (and is) God" (cf. John 1:1). What can be known of God comes by the agency of his "word" (Greek: logos), which became the person of Jesus. For trinitarians, God the Father is puppetmaster to "God the Son" (an invented, extra-biblical expression needed to perpetuate trinitarianism). This cosmic ventriloquism necessitates for Jesus to be something other than a human being. After all, what human being ever "pre-existed" (another invented, extra-biblical expression needed to perpetuate trinitarianism) their own birth?
This kind of "man" is really no man at all, but rather a hybrid spirit being the likes of which the pagan world could readily envision, just as the ancients in Lystra did when they said of Paul and Barnabas, "The gods have become like men and have come down to us" (Acts 14:11). Rather than use this opportunity as a spring-board for presenting Jesus as the incarnated God, Paul rejects this idea with the admonition, "Men, why are you doing these things?" (cf. Acts 14:15).
With the Jesus is God scenario, God the Father actually takes a back seat to "God the Son" . . . whose actually done more than God the Father. After all, no trinitarian would believe that God the Father is the one who became human. Thus, in this trinitarian structure, it is safe to say that God the Father really doesn't understand humanity . . . only "God the Son" does.
In the end, Christians end up missing the fact that we're destined to serve his (i.e. Jesus') God, and Father (cf. Revelation 1:6).
Sincerely,
David