Poll: Respecting her tattoo wish

[farouk]

Simply said, I would recommend using tracts.... just as effective and less painful or permanent

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PS: Although numbing cream can be used, I guess the permanence of a faith based design is all part of it for some people; kind of, all part of making it worthwhile as a memorable event with proven witness value, I suppose.

 

[one truth]

No. I am not saying it is the same. I implied, in response to the statement, that just because "the world" has its customs and permeates us everywhere is not a suitable rationale for getting tattoos, which is what was said.



Aren't you now being judgmental of me for questioning this tattoo advice?

How is tattooing any different than getting ears pierced or wearing a popular piece of clothing? Where do you draw the line of "the world"? Like I've said before, I think it all depends on your heart and if you are doing it for the right reasons. I think if God didn't want us getting inked He would say exactly that in the bible. Getting a tattoo doesn't mean that you're like the world. How many people in the world would get a faith-based tattoo? They get tatts of skulls and naked women. Not crosses, bible verses, or what have you.

I'm not at all trying to judge you and if I was I apologize. I just really dislike seeing Christians acting like this. We are supposed to look at the heart not the outward appearance.

 

[farouk]

How is tattooing any different than getting ears pierced or wearing a popular piece of clothing? Where do you draw the line of "the world"? Like I've said before, I think it all depends on your heart and if you are doing it for the right reasons. I think if God didn't want us getting inked He would say exactly that in the bible. Getting a tattoo doesn't mean that you're like the world. How many people in the world would get a faith-based tattoo? They get tatts of skulls and naked women. Not crosses, bible verses, or what have you.

I'm not at all trying to judge you and if I was I apologize. I just really dislike seeing Christians acting like this. We are supposed to look at the heart not the outward appearance.

Hannah:

I think this is one of the sincerest and most compelling posts I've read in quite a long time.

Clearly, the way you feel about yours (you've said you have no regrets and you plan more) is vastly different from the way people in the world depict nudity, and so forth.

Thanks for your clear and evidently heartfelt statements.

Blessings.

 

[Tri Unity]

How is tattooing any different than getting ears pierced or wearing a popular piece of clothing?

Really?

 

[farouk]

Really?

Tri Unity:

Some of us disagree with you, anyway, but thank-you for your consideration.

 

[one truth]

Really?

It's clear what you think, and I don't want to argue. The point of this post was about if you would respect a female with a tattoo. Not about if it's right or wrong to get one, and as I stated before, you can respect someone even if you don't agree with everything they do. Like getting a tattoo.

 

[farouk]

It's clear what you think, and I don't want to argue. The point of this post was about if you would respect a female with a tattoo. Not about if it's right or wrong to get one, and as I stated before, you can respect someone even if you don't agree with everything they do. Like getting a tattoo.

Hannah:

Yes, and I think your point of comparison was valid also. Women pierce their ears (often many times). And many women get tattoos. It's a plain fact of the way things are, and neither of these things, ear piercing or tattoos, need be regarded as inherently bad. It's how things are; it's what women do, so often.

Blessings.

 

[one truth]

Let me preface my response by first saying that I was raised that tattoos are bad, citing the obvious scriptures from the OT.

That being said, I have a tattoo.... I know.... hypocrite right?
I got it prior to being saved and coming into the knowledge of Christ. I can say that I still wrestle with the conviction and shame of my deed. I believe the Holy Spirit has spoken to me very clearly and disapprovingly.

Now just to be clear..... this is how the Lord dealt with me.... (emphasis on me).
I say that not as a cop out, but over wrestling in confusion for a while.
I saw other Christians with tatoos as asked about how they felt, and I found that some shared in my shame, others did not, but seemed to be every bit as humble and seeking as I was.

My answer was received after months of asking the Lord, "Is this right or wrong?"
The Holy Spirit impressed upon me to stop worrying about it. Would it effect how I loved them? How I treated them? How I interacted with them?
I think we sometimes, unwittingly, take the task of the Holy Spirit in "guiding with all truth and righeousness" upon ourselves. But all He asks of us is to love unconditionally as He has, and to show compassion as He did. (Note, this does not cast aside the scriptures regarding confronting one in their sin, but it never says to confront them agressively or with a mean spirit, which I see far too often).

So while I would never condemn anyone for getting one, I would never recommend one neither. I know the guilt I wrestled with after coming to know Christ, and the taint I felt over this permanent marking.

This is a good post. Thanks for your input.

 

[Tri Unity]

I don't want to argue. The point of this post was about if you would respect a female with a tattoo.

I don't think you understood my posts correctly. I am not disrespecting a female with a tattoo as you have implied. My wife has tattoos, and I do not disrespect her. I simply asked the male who posted a thread regarding female tattoos if he was recommending for christians females to get tattoos. I am puzzled by the purpose of a male posting to females about getting tattoos. Because he would not give me a straight answer the discussion went around in circles. I meant no disrespect to you.

 

[one truth]

I don't think you understood my posts correctly. I am not disrespecting a female with a tattoo, as you have implied. My wife has tattoos, and I do not disrespect her. I simply asked the male who posted a thread regarding female tattoos if he was recommending for christians females to get tattoos. I am puzzled by the purpose of a male posting to females about getting tattoos. Because he would not give me a straight answer the discussion went around in circles. I meant no disrespect to you.

I don't see the problem with him asking. He's simply curious and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be different if he was asking inappropriate questions about tattoos, but he's not. We each have our subjects of interest.

 

[farouk]

I don't think you understood my posts correctly. I am not disrespecting a female with a tattoo as you have implied. My wife has tattoos, and I do not disrespect her. I simply asked the male who posted a thread regarding female tattoos if he was recommending for christians females to get tattoos. I am puzzled by the purpose of a male posting to females about getting tattoos. Because he would not give me a straight answer the discussion went around in circles. I meant no disrespect to you.

Tri Unity:

Actually, just to point out that the answers I gave at your repeated request were overwhelmingly detailed. May I point out also that I haven't suggested that anyone not planning tattoo should get one.

We clearly don't have the same viewpoint, but thank-you for your consideration.

 

[Tri Unity]

We each have our subjects of interest.

Yes. That we do!

 

[farouk]

Yes. That we do!

Tri Unity:

Thank-you for your consideration and have a nice night.

 

[Nick]

Please remember that any personal problems with another member should be taken up in PM's. :yes

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[farouk]

PS:

..."Be Holy, for I am Holy", ... wouldn't that commandment still stand and have relevance today?

p78:

Interesting point.

I guess it could be argued (maybe even quite strongly) that a modestly placed faith based design (Bible ref. on wrist? etc.) intended to promote holiness and the gospel, may be consistent with this.

(If this makes sense?)

Blessings.

 

[pdpilgrim78]

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p78:

Interesting point.

I guess it could be argued (maybe even quite strongly) that a modestly placed faith based design (Bible ref. on wrist? etc.) intended to promote holiness and the gospel, may be consistent with this.

(If this makes sense?)

Blessings.

Another point I would clarify would be that the act of marking was what was specified, making the actual markings and their substance irrelevant.

Therefore, the argument (strong as it may be) would have to stand on the merit of the original law today under the covenant of grace. If it's allowed, then, barring any immoral or evil tattoos, I think it becomes a moot point if the tattoo is faith based or not.

I hope that make sense????

 

[tandemcpl]

Good afternoon, Faruok,

I really don’t think having a tattoo will help bring others to Christ. If a person won’t listen to someone without a tattoo it is unlikely that person would listen just because a tattoo was introduced into the scenario.

In fact I think it could possibly hinder evangelism. From experience, I have found people with tattoos could care less if others had one or not. This is not the case for the un-tattooed.

Just because it is not a sin doesn’t mean it’s right.

First Corinthians 10:23 declares, “All things are lawful,†but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,†but not all things build up.â€
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Be blessed
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Toby

 

[farouk]

Good afternoon, Faruok,

I really don’t think having a tattoo will help bring others to Christ. If a person won’t listen to someone without a tattoo it is unlikely that person would listen just because a tattoo was introduced into the scenario.

In fact I think it could possibly hinder evangelism. From experience, I have found people with tattoos could care less if others had one or not. This is not the case for the un-tattooed.

Just because it is not a sin doesn’t mean it’s right.

First Corinthians 10:23 declares, “All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.”
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Be blessed
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Toby</o

tandemcpl:

Interesting comments, thank-you.

I would agree that projecting tattooing, in itself, isn't inherently a blessing.

But if the content is to do with the Bible, then it would be hard to discount the power of God's Word.

For example, from my experience, a while back a saw a guy with John 3.16 tattoo and so I spoke with him and commended him for it. I am sure that he has had other conversations with people, too, some of whom would not have been Christians.

Other people also report many extra opportunities which have arisen as a result of their tattoo with witness content in its design.

Interesting to compare impressions and experiences.

Blessings. </o

 

[handy]

Another point I would clarify would be that the act of marking was what was specified, making the actual markings and their substance irrelevant.

Therefore, the argument (strong as it may be) would have to stand on the merit of the original law today under the covenant of grace. If it's allowed, then, barring any immoral or evil tattoos, I think it becomes a moot point if the tattoo is faith based or not.

I hope that make sense????

It makes perfect sense to me.

Either tattoos are inherently evil or they are simply something that was part of the Old Covenant which was fulfilled by Christ on the Cross and not part of the New Covenant of grace under which we (the Church) live.

Leviticus 19 was detailing Mosaic Law. We are no longer bound to Mosaic Law and are therefore free to get a tattoo... no matter if it's a cross, a "John 3:16" or a butterfly or whatever...

Naturally tattooed depictions of pornography or satanic things would not be appropriate at all for the Christian... but a star? flower? key?....

 

[farouk]

It makes perfect sense to me.

Either tattoos are inherently evil or they are simply something that was part of the Old Covenant which was fulfilled by Christ on the Cross and not part of the New Covenant of grace under which we (the Church) live.

Leviticus 19 was detailing Mosaic Law. We are no longer bound to Mosaic Law and are therefore free to get a tattoo... no matter if it's a cross, a "John 3:16" or a butterfly or whatever...

Naturally tattooed depictions of pornography or satanic things would not be appropriate at all for the Christian... but a star? flower? key?....

handy:

Some thoughtful remarks; thank-you. Kind of putting them in a broader framework.

I think you said not long ago that in your area various gracious Christian people of the older generation have also been getting them. (Clearly they feel okay about it.) Blessings.

p78:

Interesting comments; I can see what you are saying and handy's post was kind of a development of yours; thank-you.

Blessings.