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Bible Study Priesthood

Jesse said:
If we're told that there was a shadow, what is wrong with trying to extract what was shadowed?
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the very nature of the Lord in heaven was shadowed. if one is to study the torah then see what it teaches and taught the ancient Hebrews on how to treat each other, the nature of the Lord that begat them(isreal is called his son in the torah). then you might just see the light that giveth the shadow.
 
Jesse said:
If we're told that there was a shadow, what is wrong with trying to extract what was shadowed?
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If there is a shadow then there is also a "substance" behind the shadow. God is finished with the shadows and has given us the substance in Christ, in the New Covenant and in the New Testament.

The Levitical priesthood is gone. the Temple is gone. The sacrifices are gone. The priesthood of all believers is here. And therefore we should focus on that. We should also teach that there are bogus "priests" and "priesthoods" under the umbrella of Christianity.
 
Jesse said:
When I first moved here, I volunteered a few times with some refugees from Somalia. They were very interested in God and indicated they wanted to know more about the Bible. I would share with them what I knew and then it grew into a regular Bible study. Since then a few college students have joined. This time as I put the Bible study together, I thought I’d bring it here. I am NOT a teacher, only a student, and I am hoping those of you who are more seasoned can share their wisdom and give me feedback. I would appreciate it.

The study I’d like to undertake has to do with our Priesthood. It seems if we are called priests, and the tabernacle and all that was done in them was a shadow of things to come, then I got to thinking perhaps it’d be beneficial to know what is and what will be expected of us as priests of the Kingdom.

I would like to look at New Testament scripture and compare them to their shadow in the Old. I believe the Israelites understood the concept of a shadow, but there was no way for them to fully comprehend what cast the shadow. Basically, we can say we know more now just because we know Christ is the shadow caster.
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Under the law of Moses, it was the priest that would have charge over the sanctuary and the things that pertain to God.

The priest would then teach the people "this is what God is like'.

Under the New Covenant, He has made us priest's that each of us can know God for ourself.

31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more." Jeremiah 31:31-34


John reiterates this awesome truth in his letter -

27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. 1 John 2:27

...the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you;but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things


Of course we need Teachers, and Pastors and Apostles and Prophets and Evangelist's... however at the same time we will learn some of the most profound and wonderful insights directly from the Lord Himself.

This is the very bedrock of truth that Jesus will build His Church upon...that God Himself reveals to us the mysteries of the kingdom without flesh and blood teaching us.

15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:15-18


This is the way of the New Testament Priest.

This is the way of the kingdom of God.

God Himself teaching us by His Spirit.


JLB
 
so we should study ONLY the nt? or parts of the Tanach that fit our favorite church doctrines?

there is depth in the bible,so much depth. I see nothing wrong with looking at the Aaronic priesthood.
 
reba said:
Keep it simple Jesse... Long posts are not often read ... drawn out Bible studies about the same
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Also, it is my conclusion that, all too often, many people cannot seem to focus upon a point or two, and distil something down to a fact or truth that will, then, stand as a foundational basis for continuing study.

As one poster here did recently by flooding his post with 12 points and 22 Scriptures, many people seem to try to confound and confuse logical progression of understanding, thereby leaving themselves almost limitless avenues (rabbit trails) to turn to if things don't go smoothly for them in a particular area.

This seems so sad because it just kicks up dust in an open field rather than solidly constructing a roadway through controversy.
 
jasonc said:
so we should study ONLY the nt? or parts of the Tanach that fit our favorite church doctrines?

there is depth in the bible,so much depth. I see nothing wrong with looking at the Aaronic priesthood.
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But, if the supposition I made earlier that God was originally intending to make priests of ALL the people, and the "tribes" hadn't even been set up yet (I could be wrong there), then is it Aaron or Jesus we should be emulating?
 
I think this is relevant as to shadows. I had an ah ha moment when I started reading this thread this morning. Exodus 19:10 is the scripture quoted by RamBan when he says that to be of the nation one must do three things be circumcised, immersed (mikvah), and sacrifice. This verse is the immersion, the washing of clothes as an outward sign and are prepared for the third day, v11.
 
Willie T said:
But, if the supposition I made earlier that God was originally intending to make priests of ALL the people, and the "tribes" hadn't even been set up yet (I could be wrong there), then is it Aaron or Jesus we should be emulating?
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logically jesus as commanded by paul. follow me as I follow Christ. but paul alone didn't say that either, Jesus said if ye love me follow my commandments.Jesus gave torah.
 
Willie T said:
But, if the supposition I made earlier that God was originally intending to make priests of ALL the people, and the "tribes" hadn't even been set up yet (I could be wrong there), then is it Aaron or Jesus we should be emulating?
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We're emulating Christ of course.

There are similarities between Aaron and the Levitical Priesthood and that which is said by Christ Himself recorded in the Revelation, which we, as a holy Priesthood will attain to. That's why it's a shadow of things to come, we should be able to see these similarities - God set it up that way.

There is scripture in the Revelation that can be extracted, studying and compared to the service and sacrifices Aaron and the other priests performed in the tabernacle. Aaron was the only priest who was able to enter the Holy of Holies, is this not comparable to all believing believers (priests) today.

The NT is the OT revealed, the OT was done in the physical, the NT is done in the spiritual.
 
Jesse said:
We're emulating Christ of course.

There are similarities between Aaron and the Levitical Priesthood and that which is said by Christ Himself recorded in the Revelation, which we, as a holy Priesthood will attain to. That's why it's a shadow of things to come, we should be able to see these similarities - God set it up that way.

There is scripture in the Revelation that can be extracted, studying and compared to the service and sacrifices Aaron and the other priests performed in the tabernacle. Aaron was the only priest who was able to enter the Holy of Holies, is this not comparable to all believing believers (priests) today.

The NT is the OT revealed, the OT was done in the physical, the NT is done in the spiritual.
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the torah was both physically performed and spiritual.
the word for sacrifice is the same word to draw near. when they were to go to the tabernacle and temple they had to offer a sacrifice to atone. I would have to ask StoveBolts about how many offerings at the temple only was done or wherever the priests were. its not possible if im right that the Hebrews would atone for each sin they had to offer for. they wouldn't have animals to offer for long.
 
This study was not intended to make claims that we ARE the Levitical priesthood, if you read the first 2 posts, you would have gathered that. Some posts here have assumed that is my intention.

I know the OT ways of sacrifices are not performed today as someone here had commented, but I am only focusing on the shadow of the OT Priesthood.

There are many shadows that can be extracted, and I am sure I will only scratch the surface. Seriously, we can go as deep as God is and I doubt anyone of us could have a complete understanding now as Paul said, we see through glass darkly, we are not privy to absolutely everything - our minds would not be able to comprehend it all in the flesh, imo.

I will try to post more of what I have gathered so far, maybe it will give a better idea of where I was going with this. I also don't think it's a bad idea to study the OT Priesthood in light of what we know in the Revelation.
 
Jesse said:
This study was not intended to make claims that we ARE the Levitical priesthood, if you read the first 2 posts, you would have gathered that. Some posts here have assumed that is my intention.

I know the OT ways of sacrifices are not performed today as someone here had commented, but I am only focusing on the shadow of the OT Priesthood.

There are many shadows that can be extracted, and I am sure I will only scratch the surface. Seriously, we can go as deep as God is and I doubt anyone of us could have a complete understanding now as Paul said, we see through glass darkly, we are not privy to absolutely everything - our minds would not be able to comprehend it all in the flesh, imo.
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kinda like when Christians do peshac the full feast. from being free of leaven in their homes and the omer count down.
 
jasonc said:
kinda like when Christians do peshac the full feast. from being free of leaven in their homes and the omer count down.
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The feasts would be a different subject though. A person could write an entire book on the feasts and I wasn't even going to discuss them in this study. I believe those are a study in themselves.

I have thoughts on the feasts, and I have researched how Jesus fulfilled all of them, but it's not where I was going here.
 
Jesse. IMHO you have stated the most solid reality of our priesthood:
I Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

If we see our duty in praising the reality of what Jesus Christ has done, then we have arrived at truth. If we turn again to the shadows we miss the reality.

eddif
 
eddif said:
Jesse. IMHO you have stated the most solid reality of our priesthood:
I Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

If we see our duty in praising the reality of what Jesus Christ has done, then we have arrived at truth. If we turn again to the shadows we miss the reality.

eddif
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It is as if people want some of us to remain in darkness as far as knowledge goes, if we learn something about it, then we might miss out on Christ who is the one who actually brought it to us to learn.

Maybe this is easy for one to say if you've already studied it, but then your advice to the younger generation is to not study it because it will somehow take us back into darkness?

How do we know what the new is if we don't study the old?
 
eddif said:
If we turn again to the shadows we miss the reality.
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Exactly. That's what I tried to show above. God is finished with the shadows. The reality is Christ and His Body the Church. And very few churches (if any) properly teach on the priesthood of ALL believers. Thus we have bogus priesthoods in many denominations and we also have "clergy" separated from "laity" in others.

The true Temple and Sanctuary are in Heaven and Christ is our Great High Priest in Heaven (Heb 4:14-16). We all are king-priests -- thus "a Royal Priesthood" (1 Pet 2:9). Also a Holy Priesthood (1 Pet 2:5). Something to think about seriously. God has given His children a royal standing for eternity. The King of kings has made us kings. At the same time we are to be holy because God is holy, "Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy" (1 Pet 1:16).

This has been distorted in the modern bible versions. The KJV says "kings and priests" (Rev 1:6). The NASV says "a kingdom, priests" and the NIV says "a kingdom and priests". But the Greek word is Basileis = kings (Textus Receptus) ,which was corrupted to Basileian = kingdom (Westcott/Hort/Nestle). A "kingdom" does not necessarily means that we are indeed "kings". Once again, this shows that modern versions promote false doctrine because they are founded on corrupted Greek manuscripts.
 
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