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Bible Study Priesthood

I think what is being said is the same thing treasury agents are told. They study and learn all about legitimate bills before they begin study of counterfeits. Without knowing the real, they can get distracted by the false. Should people devote so much attention to knowing Aaron's requirements, role and tasks before they satisfy themselves that Jesus is really our example of priesthood, not Aaron?

It's just my opinion, but I think the "who" needs to be well established and understood before the "how's" are focused upon. I think "being a priest" carries with it, for many people, the implication that there are performances to be learned and perfected. (How do you think the RCC got so screwed up?)
 
To fully understand God's word Jesus must open your mind. The scripture says it like this, "Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures." Luke 24:45 NIV. Think about this! Jesus disciples who was with Him 3 1/2 years didn't understand the scriptures fully until He opened their minds with understanding which occurred after His resurrection. This clearly shows how important the sanctification process is having the right foundation. Hebrews 6:3 says, "And this will we do, if God permit."
 
Alright, even though I disagree that there is any sort of danger studying the OT or the priests - my personal belief is it brings personal enrichment to study the OT and for the life of me I can not understand why this is discouraged for the younger generation. Maybe that is what is wrong! The younger generation for some reason is swayed away from it? This is a phenomenon I have had yet to encounter. I don't think I will ever stop studying the whole Bible.

Anyway, I have already studied the shadows, I just haven't put it all together, and imo, they ALL point to Christ, as He is the shadow caster.

This is a non debate forum, so because everyone else wants to only focus on the NT Priesthood and our services and sacrifices today - then let's do it.
 
iLOVE said:
When you don't understand the "Cross of Christ" the bible becomes disconnected stories.
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one can fully grasp the cross and study the torah and prophets and such like.or is it that we should just glance at genesis, the story of exodus and skip to Joshua 1 and 24 , judges and ruth then to Samuel. God breathed that all. its all there for a reason!
 
Willie T said:
It's just my opinion, but I think the "who" needs to be well established and understood before the "how's" are focused upon. I think "being a priest" carries with it, for many people, the implication that there are performances to be learned and perfected. (How do you think the RCC got so screwed up?)
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Willie,
Because this doctrine -- the priesthood of all believers -- is generally neglected, it is wise to introduce it to Christians by giving just an overview of the OT priesthood and then explaining that God is finished with that system altogether, because of the New Covenant. So what does someone who has no clue need to know?
1. Israel was chosen by God to bring Messiah (the Christ) into the world.
2. Christ was the Lamb of God who was slain from before the foundation of the world.
3. Christ would come to earth "when the fulness of time was come" to die for the sins of the world on the cross.
4. Between the time that Moses brought Israel out of Egypt and Christ died on the cross, God gave Israel and the world "the shadows" of His one great sacrifice for sins.
5. Those shadows were the animal sacrifices (including the Passover lamb), the offerings, the feasts, and everything connected with them.
6. The blood of animals only "covered" sin. The Lamb of God "took away" the sin of the world.
7. In order to properly represent the heavenly pattern, God first instituted the Tabernacle and then the Temple in Jerusalem.
8. He also created the Levitial priesthood and the ministry of the Levites to assist them in offering the sacrifices.
9. When Christ died on the cross, this whole Mosaic System came to an end. Therefore the veil in the Temple was torn in two from top to bottom by God Himself.
10. In 70 AD God allowed the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple and to scatter the Jews throughout the world. This was the actual end of the Mosaic System.
11. From the day of Pentecost following Christ's resurrection, God created a new entity -- the Church (Jew and Gentile in one Body) -- to become a Royal Priesthood.
12. Every individual in the Church is a king and a priest (1 Pet 2:1-10) and required to offer "spiritual sacrifices".

Naturally, whoever presents this must bring out the Scriptures which support these truths. Without the Scriptures, these truths become opinions.
 
Malachi said:
Willie,
Because this doctrine -- the priesthood of all believers -- is generally neglected, it is wise to introduce it to Christians by giving just an overview of the OT priesthood and then explaining that God is finished with that system altogether, because of the New Covenant. So what does someone who has no clue need to know?
1. Israel was chosen by God to bring Messiah (the Christ) into the world.
2. Christ was the Lamb of God who was slain from before the foundation of the world.
3. Christ would come to earth "when the fulness of time was come" to die for the sins of the world on the cross.
4. Between the time that Moses brought Israel out of Egypt and Christ died on the cross, God gave Israel and the world "the shadows" of His one great sacrifice for sins.
5. Those shadows were the animal sacrifices (including the Passover lamb), the offerings, the feasts, and everything connected with them.
6. The blood of animals only "covered" sin. The Lamb of God "took away" the sin of the world.
7. In order to properly represent the heavenly pattern, God first instituted the Tabernacle and then the Temple in Jerusalem.
8. He also created the Levitial priesthood and the ministry of the Levites to assist them in offering the sacrifices.
9. When Christ died on the cross, this whole Mosaic System came to an end. Therefore the veil in the Temple was torn in two from top to bottom by God Himself.
10. In 70 AD God allowed the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple and to scatter the Jews throughout the world. This was the actual end of the Mosaic System.
11. From the day of Pentecost following Christ's resurrection, God created a new entity -- the Church (Jew and Gentile in one Body) -- to become a Royal Priesthood.
12. Every individual in the Church is a king and a priest (1 Pet 2:1-10) and required to offer "spiritual sacrifices".

Naturally, whoever presents this must bring out the Scriptures which support these truths. Without the Scriptures, these truths become opinions.
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That all sounds pretty reasonable.
 
Deuteronomy 25:4
Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.

If I were to use agrarian context for interpretation, I would surely arrive at (be kind to all God's created animals).

If I use I Corinthians 9:9-10
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

Using also I Timothy 5:18
For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
And the previous I Corinthians verses I get a totally different thought.

The highest spiritual thought (pay the preacher).

While I look to the law, it is not the stony law. I look for word written in hearts and minds.

Hebrews 5:1
For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

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Hebrews 5:11
Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

This just warns me to use extreme care in the priesthood scriptures. Even using Midrash would be very fearful. Revelation 3:20 type understanding is surely needed. Jesus once and for all time accomplished salvation.

eddif
 
Luke 16:16
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The law arose in my gentile life at 12 years of age. I repented, but I did not understand salvation in Christ Jesus. Repentance is brought about by the Law. John also taught believe in the one who comes after me.

For 12 long years the schoolmaster gave me failing marks. Then the eyes of understanding showed me the savior of those sins. By grace through faith my mind could then understand Jesus. I was still really unable to talk to others in power (to an extent though).

The only person praying for me to receive Holy Spirit (for years) was my paternal grandmother. My father forbid her to explain. Reading the bible (this is a bible study) brought a change inside me. Did I do all this? No. Christ working in me wrought the work.

I can not turn again to repentance without crucifying Jesus anew. So maybe the taste of the Word has not hit some. Maybe some have not come to the new birth. The OP was to help others come to the full knowledge of the things of God (?). Maybe when I start talking some look for duct tape LOL. Reba promotes growth wherever you are. eddif understands the good Law of God and the New Jerusalem (on my level). I wind up seeming strange to talk of kidneys, liver, natural pacemaker, cerebellum etc., but these are but shadows that are related to reality / truth. The great commission promotes all things. Sometimes I get way too pushy.

The high priest today is Jesus. A study of OT priests is shadowy. The body casting the shadow is Jesus. The light is his face. (Bright as the sun). Back in time is the law. Off in the future is the reality of heaven for eternity. The high priest Jesus has spoken these things.

The light of his face? Pretty far out there. The father is the greater light (?).

The redneck from Mississippi
eddif
 
eddif said:
Luke 16:16
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The law arose in my gentile life at 12 years of age. I repented, but I did not understand salvation in Christ Jesus. Repentance is brought about by the Law. John also taught believe in the one who comes after me.

For 12 long years the schoolmaster gave me failing marks. Then the eyes of understanding showed me the savior of those sins. By grace through faith my mind could then understand Jesus. I was still really unable to talk to others in power (to an extent though).

The only person praying for me to receive Holy Spirit (for years) was my paternal grandmother. My father forbid her to explain. Reading the bible (this is a bible study) brought a change inside me. Did I do all this? No. Christ working in me wrought the work.

I can not turn again to repentance without crucifying Jesus anew. So maybe the taste of the Word has not hit some. Maybe some have not come to the new birth. The OP was to help others come to the full knowledge of the things of God (?). Maybe when I start talking some look for duct tape LOL. Reba promotes growth wherever you are. eddif understands the good Law of God and the New Jerusalem (on my level). I wind up seeming strange to talk of kidneys, liver, natural pacemaker, cerebellum etc., but these are but shadows that are related to reality / truth. The great commission promotes all things. Sometimes I get way too pushy.

The high priest today is Jesus. A study of OT priests is shadowy. The body casting the shadow is Jesus. The light is his face. (Bright as the sun). Back in time is the law. Off in the future is the reality of heaven for eternity. The high priest Jesus has spoken these things.

The light of his face? Pretty far out there. The father is the greater light (?).

The redneck from Mississippi
eddif
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Thank you eddif.

If you are interested, I started another thread on the OP's topic, it's Priests of the Kingdom thread.
 
Jesse said:
When I first moved here, I volunteered a few times with some refugees from Somalia. They were very interested in God and indicated they wanted to know more about the Bible. I would share with them what I knew and then it grew into a regular Bible study. Since then a few college students have joined. This time as I put the Bible study together, I thought I’d bring it here. I am NOT a teacher, only a student, and I am hoping those of you who are more seasoned can share their wisdom and give me feedback. I would appreciate it.

The study I’d like to undertake has to do with our Priesthood. It seems if we are called priests, and the tabernacle and all that was done in them was a shadow of things to come, then I got to thinking perhaps it’d be beneficial to know what is and what will be expected of us as priests of the Kingdom.

I would like to look at New Testament scripture and compare them to their shadow in the Old. I believe the Israelites understood the concept of a shadow, but there was no way for them to fully comprehend what cast the shadow. Basically, we can say we know more now just because we know Christ is the shadow caster.
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I believe we are in the time of the things that have come (New Covenant) rather than in the time of the shadow of things to come (Old Covenant).

I am not a Preterist in any way shape or form, btw. Because there is a lot of things yet to come even in this life not to mention the coming kingdom of the New Jerusalem etc.

But we are supposed to be priests of God now. Every one of us. In that regard ruling and reigning with Christ till he comes.
 
2 Peter 1:20–21 (NASB95)

20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation,

21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
 
JohnD said:
I believe we are in the time of the things that have come (New Covenant) rather than in the time of the shadow of things to come (Old Covenant).

I am not a Preterist in any way shape or form, btw. Because there is a lot of things yet to come even in this life not to mention the coming kingdom of the New Jerusalem etc.

But we are supposed to be priests of God now. Every one of us. In that regard ruling and reigning with Christ till he comes.
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you are more preterist then you think and amil like with that position.
 
LOL

No. I debate preterists and eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner.

Millennium now?

Yes.

But that does not a preterist make.
 
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