Psychics

[sherri2]

hey jason, you need to clear out your inbox, it's full.

chris there's a difference between a third eye and the 'eyes of your spirit'. ie one is used by the devil and the other is from God.

you don't want to mix them up.

 

[jasoncran]

problem fixed.

 

[Chris]

i am in no means condening it all , but that its doesnt edify the lord.
theres more that i can say.

in private.

i sensed you were into this stuff back in another witchcraft thread but wasnt sure.

and the third eye takes more than opening to be where i was.

i suggest that you stop. trust me. while it seems harmless does these things please the lord that i mentioned to be good at the reading and sensitive to these:
auras
energy storage
vortex.
long range scans
and attacks
and also navigating energy rifts.

it doesnt lead you closer to the lord.

as i will add that i could also link with women and give them dreams and also rather erotic ones at that.

all of this builds jason up not the lord.

why pray when i could meditate and heal that wound myself? why ask the lord for advise when i could read the person and know what they think(seldom the truth)?

what is the source of those dreams for women, as a demon can and do that and also tempted me to lust for porn stars. i used to hear them talk to me when i looked at the porn stars.

Errrrr what do I do- I didnt want it & wasnt seeking it but got it anyway. I have been prayed over countless times by pastors to check if it had demonic roots or causesl etc to no change in me, just i feel guilty for doubting God after a few times of it. I just sense and see body energy now and dont have a choice about it. its not harming anything. I got it in prayer with god and get condemned by christians constantly if i mention it, this will be my last time I talk about it. I have never had anything to do with occult stuff now or ever.... but everyone insists it grr drives me nuts. I asked the lord to take it away from me if its not of him and it never goes away. (m not sure what those energy things are you said above though they dont sound very edifying to anyone else, the aura is the only one i know I try to avoid it all just leave it how it is.

back on topic
moving stuff with energy fields, its just your body

back to thread, enough of me its booring

 

[Chris]

actually this thread jogged my memory of a sermon i heard at church a few weeks ago about this Agabus guy who could predict the future in acts. It seems the apostles didnt mind him.

Acts 11
5 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, 26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

27 During this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28 One of them, named Agabus, stood up and through the Spirit predicted that a severe famine would spread over the entire Roman world. (This happened during the reign of Claudius.) 29 The disciples, as each one was able, decided to provide help for the brothers and sisters living in Judea. 30 This they did, sending their gift to the elders by Barnabas and Saul.

 

[pjt]

Errrrr what do I do- I didnt want it & wasnt seeking it but got it anyway. I have been prayed over countless times by pastors to check if it had demonic roots or causesl

I am presently reading a book called "And There Was Light" by Jacques Lusseyran, you might want to read this book and it might give you some insight as to what is happening with you. This book has nothing to do with the occult. It is an autobiography of a blind French resistance hero during WWII who ended up in a Nazi concentration camp and survived. The reason I got this book is he is a Christian and I wanted to hear his story. I`ve just started the book where he explains how he became blind, how he learned to "see" despite being blind, and how he discovered his blindness was a gift. But on the part of learning to see, he spoke a lot like you Chris that his senses became sharpened after the blindness and although he could not see, in his inner being he could see, hear, feel, and experience things in colors and light and really tune in with the things around him which made him in many ways see much more clearly than seeing people. He did not ask or seek for this, it just came naturally after being blinded. It made me think of Helen Keller who had an unusual ability to sum people up and "see" not just a flower or tree but the exact species and color of these. Likewise, I read about an autistic person`s account of how she processes language and it is through the senses much like this blind person was experiencing rather than language. This blind man said he saw numbers and letters in colors just like you hear of saviants who have extraordinary gifts with numbers. They experience the numbers rather than seeing them as purely black and white symbols. I think there must be depths of perception beyond what the average person usually experiences so if these perceptions come to us naturally we should accept them as gifts from God, but as jasoncran points out, actively seeking these gifts may not be wise because it could lead us into the occult which basically are the only avenues that do teach how to obtain these senses and of course the occult teaches using these sences in not so Godly manners. Anyway, you might be able to relate to this book. I find Lusseyran`s "seeing" ability to be fascinating but as you read you will see he is tying this ability with God and how the gift must be utilitzed for good. I think this is completely different than psychic ability although if sought after or misused it could be classified as an occultic ability. I think as Christians we should just seek the fruits of the Spirit and the Word of God but if we naturally are given some special or extraordinary gift then we have to be thankful and use it for God`s glory. We shouldn`t try to demonize it. Lusseyran said he tried to shut out this light but it was like shutting out God. It`s was like a man called to be a pastor and trying to shut out that call. Or someone gifted in music but they try to shut out the music from their life when music is a part of their life that runs through their veins. If God gives a gift, it is not meant to be shut out. But if you know the gift is going to be misinterpreted as occultic then maybe it is best to not trumpet it too loudly but use it quietly in your daily life. I don`t see colors and never have so it is impossible for me to imagine such an experience but I don`t discount it because we can see people that can`t communicate but can do amazing math computations in their head. Or I saw a documentary of a man who was hit by a baseball and suddenly he knew all the dates. So if you said what day was June 3rd, 1850? He could tell you right away. He did not memorize this or want it, it just happened. The mind and senses have amazing abilities.

 

[Chris]

I am presently reading a book called "And There Was Light" by Jacques Lusseyran, you might want to read this book and it might give you some insight as to what is happening with you. This book has nothing to do with the occult. It is an autobiography of a blind French resistance hero during WWII who ended up in a Nazi concentration camp and survived. The reason I got this book is he is a Christian and I wanted to hear his story. I`ve just started the book where he explains how he became blind, how he learned to "see" despite being blind, and how he discovered his blindness was a gift. But on the part of learning to see, he spoke a lot like you Chris that his senses became sharpened after the blindness and although he could not see, in his inner being he could see, hear, feel, and experience things in colors and light and really tune in with the things around him which made him in many ways see much more clearly than seeing people. He did not ask or seek for this, it just came naturally after being blinded. It made me think of Helen Keller who had an unusual ability to sum people up and "see" not just a flower or tree but the exact species and color of these. Likewise, I read about an autistic person`s account of how she processes language and it is through the senses much like this blind person was experiencing rather than language. This blind man said he saw numbers and letters in colors just like you hear of saviants who have extraordinary gifts with numbers. They experience the numbers rather than seeing them as purely black and white symbols. I think there must be depths of perception beyond what the average person usually experiences so if these perceptions come to us naturally we should accept them as gifts from God, but as jasoncran points out, actively seeking these gifts may not be wise because it could lead us into the occult which basically are the only avenues that do teach how to obtain these senses and of course the occult teaches using these sences in not so Godly manners. Anyway, you might be able to relate to this book. I find Lusseyran`s "seeing" ability to be fascinating but as you read you will see he is tying this ability with God and how the gift must be utilitzed for good. I think this is completely different than psychic ability although if sought after or misused it could be classified as an occultic ability.

Thank you for your encouraging reply. it is just what i needed today. I think I might read that book it looks like it might be an interesting read. And you are right about the way it can just happen , it seems when meditation is involved it is more common too.
because you were nice to me ill tell you more, I think I am just overly sensitive in my electric field around me i can feel objects enter it around my hands inside that first couple of feet from them it tingles my skin and feels like a slight pressure on my skin when it happens on my arms and hands Its really annoying when you go walking it tingles my fingers with every thing that cuts the path of that field I can also feel when others field enters mine but not always correctly and often i can show them the place with my eyes closed where they touch me with thier energy things from thier fingers. pretty useless thing to have I sorta wonder if my senses are a bit mixed up now.


could be just medical too. in some ways i suspect that. read this

Synesthesia « Spirit on the Brain

Whatever you guys read that I write i would never encourage any Christan along this path stay away. Being filled with the holy spirit is still by far the best thing i have ever experienced, thats the one to seek the most.

 

[pjt]

Thank you for your encouraging reply. it is just what i needed today. I think I might read that book it looks like it might be an interesting read. And you are right about the way it can just happen , it seems when meditation is involved it is more common too.
because you were nice to me ill tell you more, I think I am just overly sensitive in my electric field around me i can feel objects enter it around my hands inside that first couple of feet from them it tingles my skin and feels like a slight pressure on my skin when it happens on my arms and hands Its really annoying when you go walking it tingles my fingers with every thing that cuts the path of that field I can also feel when others field enters mine but not always correctly and often i can show them the place with my eyes closed where they touch me with thier energy things from thier fingers. pretty useless thing to have I sorta wonder if my senses are a bit mixed up now.


could be just medical too. in some ways i suspect that. read this

Synesthesia « Spirit on the Brain

Whatever you guys read that I write i would never encourage any Christan along this path stay away. Being filled with the holy spirit is still by far the best thing i have ever experienced, thats the one to seek the most.

Lusseyran also felt things. I think he does a good job in explaining how he sensed things around him, and the reason he is explaining this is to explain how he later was able to use these gifts to start a resistance movement against the Nazi and how he could use these to survive a concentration camp despite being blind. So he was able to take this gift and use it for great good, but I have not gotten that far in the book yet! Anyway, for someone like yourself who has this gift but not really knowing what to do with it or even knowing exactly why you have it and questioning where it comes from and is it good or evil, maybe this man`s life can shed some light and be an inspiration to you and give you some idea of how this gift can be utilized for the glory of God.

 

[jasoncran]

problem. a magnetic field cant move non-ferrous objects and gravity and magnetiscm arent related.

some planets dont have magnetic fields but do have gravity.

 

[Chris]

hope you guys still like me after what i told you in the thread

 

[pjt]

hope you guys still like me after what i told you in the thread

I don`t know why anyone would not like you after what you wrote. Sometimes things that we do not experience ourselves are so foreign to us, that we can not imagine them as real or we have trouble accepting them as from God. You will always run into people like this, but you should not let that hinder your faith or let it get to you. You just have to realize most people do not ever experience things like this so some people will have a hard time understanding it. Therefore, I think you would be wise to just select carefully the people around you that you share these things with, but in an open forum like this you can be annoymous and speak more frankly. You have clearly stated your faith in God and that you have not sought after this gift through the usual occultic routes and you have asked your pastor to test to make sure this is not something demonic so you have covered the bases and as I see it there`s no place for someone to cast stones. Your senses and perceptions are just higher than the average person`s. It is a gift from God, you can`t help it but you can embrace it as a gift and thank God for it and who knows, one day you may find this gift could be used in an amazing way for God`s glory!!!!

 

[jasoncran]

I don`t know why anyone would not like you after what you wrote. Sometimes things that we do not experience ourselves are so foreign to us, that we can not imagine them as real or we have trouble accepting them as from God. You will always run into people like this, but you should not let that hinder your faith or let it get to you. You just have to realize most people do not ever experience things like this so some people will have a hard time understanding it. Therefore, I think you would be wise to just select carefully the people around you that you share these things with, but in an open forum like this you can be annoymous and speak more frankly. You have clearly stated your faith in God and that you have not sought after this gift through the usual occultic routes and you have asked your pastor to test to make sure this is not something demonic so you have covered the bases and as I see it there`s no place for someone to cast stones. Your senses and perceptions are just higher than the average person`s. It is a gift from God, you can`t help it but you can embrace it as a gift and thank God for it and who knows, one day you may find this gift could be used in an amazing way for God`s glory!!!!

seeing auras isnt a part of the six senses.

i dont see auras. i just "know" they are there. i dont know of anyone that actually has seen auras with their own eyes.

 

[Chris]

I don`t know why anyone would not like you after what you wrote. Sometimes things that we do not experience ourselves are so foreign to us, that we can not imagine them as real or we have trouble accepting them as from God. You will always run into people like this, but you should not let that hinder your faith or let it get to you. You just have to realize most people do not ever experience things like this so some people will have a hard time understanding it. Therefore, I think you would be wise to just select carefully the people around you that you share these things with, but in an open forum like this you can be annoymous and speak more frankly. You have clearly stated your faith in God and that you have not sought after this gift through the usual occultic routes and you have asked your pastor to test to make sure this is not something demonic so you have covered the bases and as I see it there`s no place for someone to cast stones. Your senses and perceptions are just higher than the average person`s. It is a gift from God, you can`t help it but you can embrace it as a gift and thank God for it and who knows, one day you may find this gift could be used in an amazing way for God`s glory!!!!

thank you very much that makes me feel better I only spoke up because strangelove asked if anyone knows anyone who experiences stuff i was trying to shed light thats all. Copping disbelief is a daily normal. It sux

 

[Chris]

seeing auras isnt a part of the six senses.

i dont see auras. i just "know" they are there. i dont know of anyone that actually has seen auras with their own eyes.

I did tell you....sigh!

 

[jasoncran]

I did tell you....sigh!

then why is your abilities so limited.

i ignore it like backgroung music.

the auras arent all that. they dont really measure the perfection of the soul. thats the Lord job

let me assume this since its a magnetic field the highest amount of gauss would be the powerlines.

and they are the brightest and easily sensed when i did that.

keep in mind that an aura is nothing but a field of energy that reflects em activities if a person is exicited more em energy is produced.

 

[Chris]

then why is your abilities so limited.

i ignore it like backgroung music.

the auras arent all that. they dont really measure the perfection of the soul. thats the Lord job

let me assume this since its a magnetic field the highest amount of gauss would be the powerlines.

and they are the brightest and easily sensed when i did that.

keep in mind that an aura is nothing but a field of energy that reflects em activities if a person is exicited more em energy is produced.

OK YOU WIN NOTHING EXISTS......... I'm a bit over explaning it

why do i not spend hours improving capabilities. Id rather read my bible and go talk to someone about god if i could. its a better use of time

Matthew 5:37

 

[jasoncran]

OK YOU WIN NOTHING EXISTS......... I'm a bit over explaning it

i didnt mean to offend you but if you take that aura to be simply and em field generated by people.plants and dogs then the logical conclusion must be that the power lines should be the highest and the earth its self and the stars.

but it doesnt really work that way with that stuff theres more. i am merely concerned over what you are doing.

i have far more gift strength and i must avoid this stuff.

i sensed your abilities a while ago but want sure.

we debated what wicca was and that if a person should go to a wiccan ceremony.

i felt then you were into that stuff but wasnt sure. so i never asked.

 

[Chris]

i didnt mean to offend you but if you take that aura to be simply and em field generated by people.plants and dogs then the logical conclusion must be that the power lines should be the highest and the earth its self and the stars.

but it doesnt really work that way with that stuff theres more. i am merely concerned over what you are doing.

i have far more gift strength and i must avoid this stuff.

i sensed your abilities a while ago but want sure.

we debated what wicca was and that if a person should go to a wiccan ceremony.

i felt then you were into that stuff but wasnt sure. so i never asked.

i appreciate your concern and don't blame you for trying to steer me clear of this. The thing with me is I never sought it as a thing I wanted to have. last night before i went to sleep I was reading malachi and praying. today i walked the kids to school and on the way say the energy auras around other walkers. You see i have no choice about it its always there, you sorta try to ignore it
. I'm just a normal electrician Evangelical Christian guy. I go to church with my family and do normal things. but I sense the energy around us all and see it like a sparkly heat wave haze Its no thing to want to attain, I would rather be filled with the holy spirit than that any day.It would be alright if it had some usefulness i could work out that i could use it to serve the lord with. Its only that it started in prayer with god that i go along with it.

If you wanted to talk to someone about it that you hoped would understand you who would you talk to? I remember that wicca thread. Imagine if this was you- one night you pray to god and something weird happens like you have never had before, i was in a really long prayer time praying in the spirit for part of it. i remember praying to the lord you are love and sensing his love around me it was so nice. then i saw lots of fast moving stars coming towards me and my forehead was burning like something going in or out. you get a foread headache that lasts for a week, your dreams get crazy really crazy and auras appear around people. google helps you realize your third eye opened accidently in prayer with god, and it stays like it.. welcome to my world.




Matthew 5:37

 

[jasoncran]

i appreciate your concern and don't blame you for trying to steer me clear of this. The thing with me is I never sought it as a thing I wanted to have. last night before i went to sleep I was reading malachi and praying. today i walked the kids to school and on the way say the energy auras around other walkers. You see i have no choice about it its always there, you sorta try to ignore it
. I'm just a normal electrician Christian guy. I go to church with my family and do normal things. but I sense the energy around us all and see it like a sparkly heat wave haze Its no thing to want to attain, I would rather be filled with the holy spirit than that any day.It would be alright if it had some usefulness i could work out that i could use it to serve the lord with. Its only that it started in prayer with god that i go along with it.

If you wanted to talk to someone about it that you hoped would understand you who would you talk to?


Matthew 5:37

ok, but the thing with that is as i said what something that points to you and you doing this or that give god glory.

yes its hard to ignore.

trust me i ignore alot of the same thing all day every day.

probes, attacks, etc.

let me ask you this have you attempted to reach out with your mind? if so how far?

 

[Chris]

ok, but the thing with that is as i said what something that points to you and you doing this or that give god glory.

yes its hard to ignore.

trust me i ignore alot of the same thing all day every day.

probes, attacks, etc.

let me ask you this have you attempted to reach out with your mind? if so how far?

how do you mean

i can feel things cut my aura path up to 4 feet from my hands i tried to move ping pong ball one day wich was awaste of time.
ps auras in photos i suspect highly iis a scam. look at hand aura look again with iphone pic no aura present LOL but thats how mine works

 

[jasoncran]

scan outside of australia. and its best to pm me on these things.