Psychics

[Oats]

What this has to do with is the bio magnetic electrical field on the outside of our bodies that surrounds is being used to move physical objects. It is a natural part of our physical body. My doctor told me it exists it has as much to do with the occult as does my little finger. Stangelove asked above if there is anyone who can. I am a christian and am very aware of the energy around us, I see it around people and feel it in certain circumstances and it sure doesn't bother my walk with Jesus. But yeah it is there and i think it could move something if you tried hard enough.

Because of this in watching that video I could see how the energy field could be focusing on that object and making it move. You would have to have some time on your hands to practice that.

The danger for a christian is this, Replacing gods position in your life with other gods just as you would with a hobby or other interests ie your car and boat you may worship, and spend more time with that than in study and prayer.



1 Timothy 4:4
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,

My thought exactly...
Thanks

 

[coffeeelover]

Psychics are frauds. They trick. Their act is just that. It is no more real than the magic of Lance Burton.

 

[jasoncran]

My thought exactly...
Thanks

that so called aura can also be directed to energy attacks, and also jamming and probing others.

and emf negates alot of that, as it causes problems.

i used to be into that stuff way to much, and i stopped doing that junk.

chi kung and tai chi guys informed me of that magnetic field stuff.

but i agree with what mr. cofeelover says on a lot of this as demons can make things appear as though they are, but the majority of the time its tricks.

 

[Oats]

that so called aura can also be directed to energy attacks, and also jamming and probing others.

and emf negates alot of that, as it causes problems.

i used to be into that stuff way to much, and i stopped doing that junk.

chi kung and tai chi guys informed me of that magnetic field stuff.

but i agree with what mr. cofeelover says on a lot of this as demons can make things appear as though they are, but the majority of the time its tricks.

Yes you are right about that.
But Moses wasn't when by the power of God parted the red sea
But Daniel and his men weren't when they survived fire by Gods power
But Jesus wasn't a fraud when he commanded the fig tree to wither

These gifts weren't for fun but for God's glory.

S'all i'm saying

 

[jasoncran]

moses didnt part the red sea via psychic energy, the bible says that he the lord did that.

shadrach, meshach and adbenego were with the son of men that is cristophne thus protected
neither did jesus use his psychic powers to curse and wither the fig tree.

jesus was and is the lord and creator of the universe.

 

[Oats]

moses didnt part the red sea via psychic energy, the bible says that he the lord did that.

shadrach, meshach and adbenego were with the son of men that is cristophne thus protected
neither did jesus use his psychic powers to curse and wither the fig tree.

jesus was and is the lord and creator of the universe.

I don't care if you're a moderator...STOP NOW!

You're being haughty....I never said that...my post said by the power of God.

I believe God can use anything to his power.

Question:

Did God create everything?
Did he create evil?

 

[jasoncran]

you implied that.

i used to think that stuff could be mixed with christ.

i did some of the witchcraft. for yrs not on the scale as some did here but enough to know.
i feel that god told me stop taking his glory

the chakras could heal you if the demons wanted to, or the body by suggestion does somehow correct itself, but with any manner of reiki healing and chakra chants its about YOUR power not GOD'S Glory.

God is jealous.
would god tell satan Go heal jason of his back injuries.
he could but would he?

i know far more then you think on this.

i dont talk about it the comment by cl is the perfect one, i dont make fun of those that are into pshysic stuff as they are harrased a lot. i used to be there so i kept it on the down low and talked about only too those that would recieve it.

i used to attack people with the energy attacks and shields and probe minds, and talk to others via telepathy.

man was i decieved. but i wanted to be decieved. i also used to try to manipulate the stop light to change at my will. i thought i worked oh the power of self-hypnosis.
i later learned that knew the timing of when lights would change and would see the other lights change and then could make the the light change in my mind.

i was lying to my self.

i started into this not long after my forage into martial arts. is this why you brought this up?

and if i was being too confrontational.i'm sorry.

 

[Oats]

you implied that.

i used to think that stuff could be mixed with christ.

i did some of the witchcraft. for yrs not on the scale as some did here but enough to know.
i feel that god told me stop taking his glory

the chakras could heal you if the demons wanted to, or the body by suggestion does somehow correct itself, but with any manner of reiki healing and chakra chants its about YOUR power not GOD'S Glory.

God is jealous.
would god tell satan Go heal jason of his back injuries.
he could but would he?

i know far more then you think on this.

i dont talk about it the comment by cl is the perfect one, i dont make fun of those that are into pshysic stuff as they are harrased a lot. i used to be there so i kept it on the down low and talked about only too those that would recieve it.

i used to attack people with the energy attacks and shields and probe minds, and talk to others via telepathy.

man was i decieved. but i wanted to be decieved. i also used to try to manipulate the stop light to change at my will. i thought i worked oh the power of self-hypnosis.
i later learned that knew the timing of when lights would change and would see the other lights change and then could make the the light change in my mind.

i was lying to my self.

i started into this not long after my forage into martial arts. is this why you brought this up?

and if i was being too confrontational.i'm sorry.

No...I just youtube to much....

Her is what I believe


Telekenisis does exist but it is evil

And

God can give Christians the power to do am amazing things in his name....like existing in the ifrst place


I'm Sorry

Friends?:

I didn't start martial arts....money is too low for now

 

[Mike]

Again, I'd be fascinated to see this power demonstrated under clinical observation, and the study subjected to peer review. I took a fair amount of psych back in college, and as of 20 years ago :gah , there wasn't a single documented case where this power was demonstrated under controlled settings.

David Copperfield refuses to call himself a "magician", preferring to call himself an "illusionist", because that's what he does. He creates illusions. I'm fascinated by these entertainers, because I'd love to know how they pull these things off. But when the truth is exposed as to how certain tricks are actually done, it's very disappointing, because all the mysery is taken away.. In a much simpler example, card tricks can be amazing. And then you find out that the deck was set up before the trick even started, so the person doing the trick knows what card the person will draw before the trick begins.

God can do anything, and use people to participate in His work. But those who claim psychic powers tend to draw the attention on themselves, much like stage faith healers do, instead of the Lord.

 

[sherri2]

i used to attack people with the energy attacks and shields and probe minds

what is that? particularly the probe thing. I've read of people astral travelling to kill other people by entering their bodies but I've often been curious about how much they can get into anothers mind - ie reading thoughts, attitudes etc through the demonic.

God can show us things about others, but that's different to us just helping ourselves.

would you mind explaining (or pm if you feel its a bit personal). I'm very interested.

I've experienced a bit of the demonic myself over the years and am curious about some of the systems and structures behind it.

 

[sherri2]

1 Cor 14:24
But if an unbeliever or someone who *does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"


If you check the lexicon its even clearer in terms of reading their inner mail.

God is a win/win God, not a win/lose God but we're supposed to be moving in the spirit to this degree. He's not going to show us unecessary things about others, but enough to convict them or even know whats going on at times. However he can only do that if he can trust us with that kind of information. This is how a healthy church group is supposed to operate. God has given us that example in scripture for a reason.



* 'does not understand' can also be translated as 'ungifted person'. So somebody not operating in the gifts of the holy spirit.

 

[Chris]

I don't care if you're a moderator...STOP NOW!

You're being haughty....I never said that...my post said by the power of God.

I believe God can use anything to his power.

Question:

Did God create everything?
Did he create evil?

oats your a good guy don't worry, its not worth it. life as a mystic christian it is a solo one If you have seen the other things the lord made be thankful you have seen it.

put your head down and allow the condemnation you constantly receive. It is not worth the effort to try to explain it.
You can be my friend we can talk privately if you like.

just show love in return as our lord would have us do. there is not much more you can do just try to blend in a bit.


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Jason I do know where your coming from from what you said in previous threads where you revealed about your past and i am so sorry it has scarred you like it has, the devil loves doing that. I am so glad the lord freed you from it like you were saying An evil hart with malice can use any tool to inflict harm. Personally i think aura things are overrated what they can do. They just look pretty and are an indicator of a persons inward happiness to me. I often thank god for that gift, it is a bit like looking if someone has a smiling face.

 

[jasoncran]

oats your a good guy don't worry, its not worth it. life as a mystic christian it is a solo one If you have seen the other things the lord made be thankful you have seen it.

put your head down and allow the condemnation you constantly receive. It is not worth the effort to try to explain it.
You can be my friend we can talk privately if you like.

just show love in return as our lord would have us do. there is not much more you can do just try to blend in a bit.


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Jason I do know where your coming from from what you said in previous threads where you revealed about your past and i am so sorry it has scarred you like it has, the devil loves doing that. I am so glad the lord freed you from it like you were saying An evil hart with malice can use any tool to inflict harm. Personally i think aura things are overrated what they can do. They just look pretty and are an indicator of a persons inward happiness to me. I often thank god for that gift, it is a bit like looking if someone has a smiling face.

tis more then that.

far more.

how does one know the inward person is good.

when i did that and got saved, the guy who had the best looking aura was a muslim and thief and crook, and also he killed a man, and had gotten away with it. Lawyers can get you off something if you have a good enough of one.

so a murderer has good one.

a member of this forum has the highest colored enegry field here.I have seen the pics of him. does that make him a saved person?

no offense to that person. but i am making a point.

 

[pjt]

Yes and no. I believe many psychics are just ppl out of rip ppl off. They may have good intuition and hunches about people but they can`t foresee the future. They just size up the person and tell them what they want to hear. But those that really can foresee things get their power from the devil. The Bible says to stay away from psychics and I think it is because God wants to protect us from the source of where this psychic power is coming from.

 

[Chris]

Jason,ifp you can see colours I'm a bit envious I can only see like a smokey haze bit like heatwaves it only gives me an indication of if a person is unwell or unhappy if it is a dense closer one but at church I love seeing them there they are really big and surround happy people praising god.
Like you guys were saying people who talk to dead people is really creepy not good for a Christian to want to do. I wonder why some people think the bodys energy field is evil or occultism related or anything to do with it is.

 

[jasoncran]

Jason,ifp you can see colours I'm a bit envious I can only see like a smokey haze bit like heatwaves it only gives me an indication of if a person is unwell or unhappy if it is a dense closer one but at church I love seeing them there they are really big and surround happy people praising god.
Like you guys were saying people who talk to dead people is really creepy not good for a Christian to want to do. I wonder why some people think the bodys energy field is evil or occultism related or anything to do with it is.

why be jealous. i choose to ignore the idiotic stuff.

nor do i get into that in church services, distracting from service.

and i have seen orbs, and where people are injured.

your third eye isnt trianed to be sensitived and if one worked at that you could be good at that stuff. and to do that my friend one must do yoga, or the chi kung and other things that arent biblical nor would please god.

the yoga with the chants and chakra breathing and to include the martial arts that teach proper kata with the kias and breathing from the ki-hara.

that is why i dont like reading or using auras.

 

[Chris]

why be jealous. i choose to ignore the idiotic stuff.

nor do i get into that in church services, distracting from service.

and i have seen orbs, and where people are injured.

your third eye isnt trianed to be sensitived and if one worked at that you could be good at that stuff. and to do that my friend one must do yoga, or the chi kung and other things that arent biblical nor would please god.

the yoga with the chants and chakra breathing and to include the martial arts that teach proper kata with the kias and breathing from the ki-hara.

that is why i dont like reading or using auras.

Yeah mate mines open ( third eye thing " Christian inner eye sounds better" I think its kinda stuck that way the auras are always there i cant help but see them. You know from what i wrote before that it happened in deep prayer with god so it dont worry me now, I just go along with it and wait to see why the lord allowed/ caused it to happen to me, as it was nothing i was seeking. I didn't even know about a third eye thing till after the auras started
The worst part about it is the constant condemnation from other believers so you just dont say about it normally or you end up lonely. I would only usually reveal to open minded people.

You wouldnt believe how relieving it is to talk to you a fellow Christan who understands.

In church it is like a big happy glow about people you can see their happiness. Church services is where that is seen best, like no other place.

 

[jasoncran]

Yeah mate mines open ( third eye thing " Christian inner eye sounds better" I think its kinda stuck that way the auras are always there i cant help but see them. You know from what i wrote before that it happened in deep prayer with god so it dont worry me now, I just go along with it and wait to see why the lord allowed/ caused it to happen to me, as it was nothing i was seeking. I didn't even know about a third eye thing till after the auras started
The worst part about it is the constant condemnation from other believers so you just dont say about it normally or you end up lonely. I would only usually reveal to open minded people.

You wouldnt believe how relieving it is to talk to you a fellow Christan who understands.

In church it is like a big happy glow about people you can see their happiness. Church services is where that is seen best, like no other place.

i am in no means condening it all , but that its doesnt edify the lord.
theres more that i can say.

in private.

i sensed you were into this stuff back in another witchcraft thread but wasnt sure.

and the third eye takes more than opening to be where i was.

i suggest that you stop. trust me. while it seems harmless does these things please the lord that i mentioned to be good at the reading and sensitive to these:
auras
energy storage
vortex.
long range scans
and attacks
and also navigating energy rifts.

it doesnt lead you closer to the lord.

as i will add that i could also link with women and give them dreams and also rather erotic ones at that.

all of this builds jason up not the lord.

why pray when i could meditate and heal that wound myself? why ask the lord for advise when i could read the person and know what they think(seldom the truth)?

what is the source of those dreams for women, as a demon can and do that and also tempted me to lust for porn stars. i used to hear them talk to me when i looked at the porn stars.

 

[sherri2]

in the dreams, were you sharing their dreams (seeing the same thing) or could you place yourself as a character in their dreams, and control or influence where the dream went?

 

[jasoncran]

in the dreams, were you sharing their dreams (seeing the same thing) or could you place yourself as a character in their dreams, and control or influence where the dream went?

without getting to nasty as in call girl type. i would talk sex with them and and tell them what i liked and vice versa. then i would go to sleep in my seperate room( i didnt live with the girl that i did these with) and would slow my hear rate down and then reach out with my mind while i slept.

a meditative state was used in sleep(yes this is what i wanted to believe i was doing). in reality it was either the girl went along with that too get sex or a demon did that and i being decieved and letting it happen.