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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
Read through the following study by Tenchi for more on this topic
https://christianforums.net/threads/without-the-holy-spirit-we-can-do-nothing.109419/
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
Join Sola Scriptura for a discussion on the subject
https://christianforums.net/threads/anointed-preaching-teaching.109331/#post-1912042
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Darrell,
"Putting the right group of people with the statement helps a lot."
Let the reader decide what speaks to them, and what they prefer
to be 'suitable for their group'.
"at midnight there was a cry made. the bridegroom cometh."
Yes. We all know not only the weaknesses of "other groups"
We also know our own very well. We tend to be busy with things
that draw our attention. And some of us are in multiple wordly
commitments that basically make it hard for any new urgent
re-scheduling of any kind to get our undevided attention.
(If you know a dear one, like I do, that need close to 2 hours from
the decision to go shopping until we finally sit in the car you know
what I mean)
May the Lord grant us the abillity to stay in His Spirit the very hour
the cry will be made. May he grant us the power to hear his voice
when he arrives and follow him without delay or looking back.
George
"Putting the right group of people with the statement helps a lot."
Let the reader decide what speaks to them, and what they prefer
to be 'suitable for their group'.
"at midnight there was a cry made. the bridegroom cometh."
Yes. We all know not only the weaknesses of "other groups"
We also know our own very well. We tend to be busy with things
that draw our attention. And some of us are in multiple wordly
commitments that basically make it hard for any new urgent
re-scheduling of any kind to get our undevided attention.
(If you know a dear one, like I do, that need close to 2 hours from
the decision to go shopping until we finally sit in the car you know
what I mean)
May the Lord grant us the abillity to stay in His Spirit the very hour
the cry will be made. May he grant us the power to hear his voice
when he arrives and follow him without delay or looking back.
George
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Jake99
Guest
An "out of chaos solution" must come from a man who has vast experience in doing such a thing. But understand that some will call him a madman for what he says and does. Are you ready for a totally different man challenging your way of life and claiming to be the christ? In my opinion George Bush is the anti christ because everything he stands for is against the ways of Jesus. I am not up on prophesy but doesn't the anti christ get defeated by Jesus II after 7 years?'
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Darrell dunn
Guest
Check out this web site savedbygrace@wonderful1.com
Then click on 14000 days at top of page, I think it has something to say.
Then click on 14000 days at top of page, I think it has something to say.
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Jake99
Guest
I tried the web site and its just an email address savedbygrace@woderful1.com
Vic C.
Member
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Jake99
Guest
Thanks for the link Vic, I shall read more when time permits.
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Darrell dunn
Guest
Sorry wonderful1.com has changed his page.
D
Darrell dunn
Guest
Sorry wonderful1.com has rewriten the pageon 14000 days.
Yes, 14000 days was a great theory.
Now we're back in reality of the book of revelation.
And how to be an overcomer in one of the churches.
It's also about the "church in Philadelphia" vs. "church of the Laodiceans"
Note: The first belongs to Jesus Christ, the second belongs to the
Laodiceans. I find the Bible is always to the point. I first thought
it's just about words, but actually it speaks about current reality.
The end time church belongs more to its people and pastors than
to Christ. And that exactly is her problem.
Now we're back in reality of the book of revelation.
And how to be an overcomer in one of the churches.
It's also about the "church in Philadelphia" vs. "church of the Laodiceans"
Note: The first belongs to Jesus Christ, the second belongs to the
Laodiceans. I find the Bible is always to the point. I first thought
it's just about words, but actually it speaks about current reality.
The end time church belongs more to its people and pastors than
to Christ. And that exactly is her problem.
N
NOTW
Guest
A great website (at bottom) for many different articles. Heres a page full of rapture views. FTR, my church teachs pre trib rapture with careful study of Rev 6 -18 alone. You can listen if you like by clicking on (online audio) then (verse by verse listen now) pick the book of Rev and enjoy! http://www.ccphilly.org
Heres the site for the rapture articles.
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/the_rapture.html
Heres the site for the rapture articles.
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/the_rapture.html
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NOTW
Guest
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After reading some of those articles i dont know what think any more :o They are a must read for everyone wanting to gain insight on the rapture!
NOTW............
After reading some of those articles i dont know what think any more :o They are a must read for everyone wanting to gain insight on the rapture!
NOTW............
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PHIL121
Guest
Skimming those articles, I tend toagree with some of what it says, but they don't seem to quote much scripture in support of their views.
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NOTW
Guest
PHIL121 said:
I disagree, he builds a very nice scriptural base for post pre trib here
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/rapture_of_church.html
And also debunks the pre trib with scripture very well. Dont skim, read :wink:
Vic C.
Member
Thanks for the second link. I bookmarked it for future reference.NOTW said:
I have a problem with churches that take a particular End Times belief and teaches it to the congregation. My Pastor won't do it. He feels one's End Tims belief is personal. We are encouraged though to study it for ourselves.
:-D Good... that means you are open to other interpretations. Keep studying the Bible and pay attention to what the OT has to say about End Times and particularly Daniel and The Day of the Lord.NOTW said:
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PHIL121
Guest
Vic said:
That's probably wise. Still, I think most churchs don't do enough to educate thier members about the End-times.
And if there is ever a time churchs SHOULD...
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Litebeam
Guest
Perhaps the "dead in Christ" and the “we which are alive and remain,†are those who have died to the world and it's ways. Those who have been enabled by God to overcome the world, sin and Satan.
Those who are doers of the word and not hearers only. Those who have given God their whole hearts and obey Him. Those who have taken up their cross and followed Him. Those who have turned away from sin.
God's elect and His called out ones. Perhaps the 144,000.
Maybe they will be changed first into paradisiacal bodies and will be attending a "certain wedding" while the world is undergoing tribulation.
It would sure leave the luke warm church who are convinced that they will be raptured with egg on their face. Wouldn't it???
When Christ returns the age of flesh will end. Those whose names are in the Lambs book of life will inherit eternal life.
Revelation 2:11
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
It would seem that being holy is a requirement. After all, being born of GOD’S SPIRIT should lead to one becoming holy.
Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy. (Leviticus 20:7-8)
But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: Be holy, because I am holy. (1 Peter 1:15-16)
God would not tell us to do something He wasn’t prepared to ENABLE us to do. Those who obey God and study His word in a humble Spirit, who seek His wisdom and ask His strength to flee temptation, God enables to do so.
God chose them. He enables them to do His will and walk in His ways.
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will: Eph 1:11
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit- fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. This is my command: Love each other. (John15:16-17)
The majority will be found worshipping “the false Christ,†“the anti-Christ,†“the instead of Christ,†when the true Lord returns.
Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
ALL that dwell upon the Earth shall worship Satan.
The age of flesh will end when The Real Christ returns. Those who are not part of the first resurrection will indeed be in paradisiacal bodies. They will not have received eternal life at this point and will still be subject to the second death.
Perhaps they will have the millennium to “get it together.†Perhaps those who are part of the first resurrection will minister to them.
It would seem that many of them will still follow Satan when He is released for the last time.
That’s how I am beginning to see things. It is truly a vast topic.
May The Good Lord increase all our understanding.
God bless!
Those who are doers of the word and not hearers only. Those who have given God their whole hearts and obey Him. Those who have taken up their cross and followed Him. Those who have turned away from sin.
God's elect and His called out ones. Perhaps the 144,000.
Maybe they will be changed first into paradisiacal bodies and will be attending a "certain wedding" while the world is undergoing tribulation.
It would sure leave the luke warm church who are convinced that they will be raptured with egg on their face. Wouldn't it???
When Christ returns the age of flesh will end. Those whose names are in the Lambs book of life will inherit eternal life.
Revelation 2:11
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
It would seem that being holy is a requirement. After all, being born of GOD’S SPIRIT should lead to one becoming holy.
Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy. (Leviticus 20:7-8)
But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: Be holy, because I am holy. (1 Peter 1:15-16)
God would not tell us to do something He wasn’t prepared to ENABLE us to do. Those who obey God and study His word in a humble Spirit, who seek His wisdom and ask His strength to flee temptation, God enables to do so.
God chose them. He enables them to do His will and walk in His ways.
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will: Eph 1:11
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit- fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. This is my command: Love each other. (John15:16-17)
The majority will be found worshipping “the false Christ,†“the anti-Christ,†“the instead of Christ,†when the true Lord returns.
Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
ALL that dwell upon the Earth shall worship Satan.
The age of flesh will end when The Real Christ returns. Those who are not part of the first resurrection will indeed be in paradisiacal bodies. They will not have received eternal life at this point and will still be subject to the second death.
Perhaps they will have the millennium to “get it together.†Perhaps those who are part of the first resurrection will minister to them.
It would seem that many of them will still follow Satan when He is released for the last time.
That’s how I am beginning to see things. It is truly a vast topic.
May The Good Lord increase all our understanding.
God bless!
D
Darrell dunn
Guest
The main problem is that most of the church doesn't know God, they know about him.
God dose not change his plans because of man's attitude or lack of understanding,
He began man to never stop expanding, we have been on a detour of 6,000 yrs, but man will continue for ever, for as Gods family grows so dose He.
Adam was given the whole creation not just earth.
God is really wanting to show Himself to his family, But they limit Him with their understanding.
The main reason that the church doesn't know more is because every time God revels something to a prophet today, they run right out and write a book to sell. Everyone wants a piece of the pie, So here comes another book saying basically the same thing, but by someone else.
Check www. tribforces.com then click on DMZ and read selling God
God dose not change his plans because of man's attitude or lack of understanding,
He began man to never stop expanding, we have been on a detour of 6,000 yrs, but man will continue for ever, for as Gods family grows so dose He.
Adam was given the whole creation not just earth.
God is really wanting to show Himself to his family, But they limit Him with their understanding.
The main reason that the church doesn't know more is because every time God revels something to a prophet today, they run right out and write a book to sell. Everyone wants a piece of the pie, So here comes another book saying basically the same thing, but by someone else.
Check www. tribforces.com then click on DMZ and read selling God
I'm rediscovering it also at the moment. God has a purpose
with all these things. To say it's the Holiness of His church
is as close as we can possibly understand it.
Listen to what the Spirit is saying: Return to your first love
We struggle with the details of understanding, but that's not our main
problem. Our main problem is self-reliance. We don't walk by faith.
We don't walk in His Spirit.
We're too stuck with the problems we can perceive and try to
point out in others. What is only a part of the service we're called to.
However, we seem to forget that it's Him that enables us for service.
Seek His Spirit. That's what we're asked to do before we start any
other service. Return to your first love. Be filled with the Holy Spirit.
That's God purpose.
The last few weeks my insight into "the world" and the powers behind
the surface both in politics and church grew to a point where one
easily could get lost and sidetracked. Especially because I see
the roadmap of the enemy confirmed every day in the news. That's
a tough one to swallow and easily turns you away from God's purpose,
because you know enough about "them" to write 5 books as Darrell
points out. Although it's not always about money, there are really
things going on the public is not aware of, but will get affected by.
By His mercy alone I'm strongly reminded that that's not the way to
salvation to understand the dark side. God has a purpose for us,
and I refer to the outline as posted by Litebeam. Like one of the
Bible teachers always said: Don't get caught worrying about
what the Devil's up to -- Your main concern is what God's up to.
"Be holy, because I am holy". Return to your first love.
John 4:10  Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift
of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest
have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
with all these things. To say it's the Holiness of His church
is as close as we can possibly understand it.
Listen to what the Spirit is saying: Return to your first love
We struggle with the details of understanding, but that's not our main
problem. Our main problem is self-reliance. We don't walk by faith.
We don't walk in His Spirit.
We're too stuck with the problems we can perceive and try to
point out in others. What is only a part of the service we're called to.
However, we seem to forget that it's Him that enables us for service.
Seek His Spirit. That's what we're asked to do before we start any
other service. Return to your first love. Be filled with the Holy Spirit.
That's God purpose.
The last few weeks my insight into "the world" and the powers behind
the surface both in politics and church grew to a point where one
easily could get lost and sidetracked. Especially because I see
the roadmap of the enemy confirmed every day in the news. That's
a tough one to swallow and easily turns you away from God's purpose,
because you know enough about "them" to write 5 books as Darrell
points out. Although it's not always about money, there are really
things going on the public is not aware of, but will get affected by.
By His mercy alone I'm strongly reminded that that's not the way to
salvation to understand the dark side. God has a purpose for us,
and I refer to the outline as posted by Litebeam. Like one of the
Bible teachers always said: Don't get caught worrying about
what the Devil's up to -- Your main concern is what God's up to.
"Be holy, because I am holy". Return to your first love.
John 4:10  Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift
of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest
have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.