Bible Study Rapture

[Edward]

i am just commanded by the scriptures to be ready and watch. while i do not believe Christians will go through the full tribulation .other than that when the trumpet sounds you can call me GONE

That's about where I am now on it. I think the Lord will rescue His (damsel in distress) at the last minute (but not late) to save His bride from the worst of it.

But we will still go through very much first. Trial by fire for purification.

 

[New Day Coming]

If you highlighted that particular scripture to identify the lie, then you are incorrect, and have not yet come to the truth.

Ok... What was the first lie? (Sorry to just jump in btw) - just interested in your perspective.

 

[ezrider]

Ok... What was the first lie? (Sorry to just jump in btw) - just interested in your perspective.

The lie of the serpent is "you shall not die"

 

[Edward]

I thought it was, yea hath God said...
Casting doubt about God being a liar.

 

[New Day Coming]

Genesis 3

3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? [#1]
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it [#2], lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: [#3]
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

 

[ezrider]

So what point are you trying to make by just highlighting verses and assigning a number to it?

3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? [#1]

This is a question. There is no lie here.

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it [#2], lest ye die.

This is the women speaking, so how can it be the serpents lie?

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: [#3]

Now here is the only lie the serpent told. The serpent said to the women ye shall not surely die. But what did God say.

Genesis 2:16-17
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

 

[New Day Coming]

So what point are you trying to make by just highlighting verses and assigning a number to it?



This is a question. There is no lie here.





This is the women speaking, so how can it be the serpents lie?





Now here is the only lie the serpent told. The serpent said to the women ye shall not surely die. But what did God say.

Genesis 2:16-17
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Lol - apologies for "seizing a dog by its ears" - I suspect you are right that this was the serpents original lie.

 

[ezrider]

Lol - apologies for "seizing a dog by its ears" - I suspect you are right that this was the serpents original lie.

Now the question is, have you started thinking about the raminfication of that lie. How many are taught to take a covering so they won't die?

 

[ezrider]

Revelation 2:18-20
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Revelation 2:21-23
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.


So much for the church flying away before the great tribulation; right there they are cast into bed with all those seeking an antichrist and into great tribulation. Perhaps she should have learned from the the prophet Jonah.

Revelation 2:24-25
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

 

[ezrider]

Jonah 3:9-10
Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Jonah 4:1-2
But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country?...

Jonah 4:4-8
Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry? So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city. And the Lord God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered. And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.

Jonah 4:9-11
And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death. Then said the Lord, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night: And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

 

[ezrider]

Isaiah 40:1-5
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her,
that her warfare is accomplished,
that her iniquity is pardoned:
for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord,
make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Every valley shall be exalted,
and every mountain and hill shall be made low:
and the crooked shall be made straight,
and the rough places plain:
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed,
and all flesh shall see it together:
for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.


Quite the opposite message from that of wrath and judgement. Only she that calleth herself a prophetess and those that listen to her fears the wrath of God.


Micah 4:3-4
And he shall judge among many people,
and rebuke strong nations afar off;
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruninghooks:
nation shall not lift up a sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree;
and none shall make them afraid:
for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it.

Micah 4:5-7
For all people will walk every one in the name of his god,
and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.
In that day, saith the Lord, will I assemble her that halteth,
and I will gather her that is driven out,
and her that I have afflicted;
And I will make her that halted a remnant,
and her that was cast far off a strong nation:
and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion
from henceforth, even for ever.